Posted by Dinah on April 5, 2002, at 0:49:11
In reply to Re: Andyboy - how it happened , posted by Zo on April 4, 2002, at 23:08:59
Andyboy, I would just ignore this thread but I wanted to make one thing clear to you if to no one else. It has been obliquely and rather directly suggested that I used your thread to try to drag you into a separate contretemps or to incite you to riot or something.
I made exactly two posts on the thread in question. The first post was a comment on ALL the replies to your post, not any particular one. As I stated clearly, I thought your intentions were good, that the gist of your initial post had been posted elsewhere without uproar (usually on threads that people perceived to be "pushing" products or encouraging people to stop taking meds), and that the replies to your post were, at the very least, not phrased as politely as they could have been. I had no intention of drawing you into anything, just to show you support. My post to you came after three posts to you that you had found to be unsupportive judging from your replies. The content of my reply had nothing whatsoever to do with the identity of the posters. If you have any doubts, please check the sequence of posts. They will support what I am saying.
My second post came after Zo's second post to you - the one she has apologized for. And since she has apologized, I won't quote her from that post. But at that point I will admit to having more than a bit of fellow feeling for you. So my post may have contained a bit of that feeling. My intention was not to draw you into anything. But perhaps my recent hurt at the post I linked to in my post to you may have influenced the way I phrased my reply. If so, I apologize for dragging my own hurt into your thread. But I assure you that whether or not I had been hurt I would have still posted again in support of you. And I doubly assure you that I in no way intended to use you or your thread to do anything but give you support, although I will admit to being upset at the time, and that feeling of hurt may have coloured my second post. The first one, I reiterate, was general in nature. Now I will clearly confess that my post to Dr. Bob was made in pure outrage that you alone had received a Please Be Civil. And that the posts to you and the post to me were not considered uncivil. I will openly admit this.
Anyway, Andy, you can draw your own conclusions. But I didn't want you to think that I was using you, because that was never my intention.
And everyone else is also free to draw their own conclusions. I don't intend to respond to this accusation again.
To be fair to the people making the accusation, I had rather recently expressed my hurt at having my posts called judgemental, condescending, and likely to push people away. And I had expressed my hurt in one of my infamous meltdowns, which I had the brilliant idea of documenting on the board. So I had recently made a scene. And embarassed myself thoroughly. So I suppose I can expect people to accuse me of doing other things as well. That is the price a person pays for making a scene. And why I place so much importance on personal control. And why I so intensely dislike it when I lose control.
Now, before anyone accuses me of trying to keep this thread going or of trying to involve anyone in anything, I will remind everyone that I am only responding because several people have made the suggestion that I was attempting to draw Andy into another conflict. I am simply telling Andy that that is not true. And explaining why it was not true. I did not start this up again, I am merely responding. And I probably wouldn't have responded any more except that the accusations are being made to Andy, and I don't want Andy to feel like I have used him when I had no intention of doing so.
And I will probably live to regret writing this response.
poster:Dinah
thread:3825
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