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Posted by Michael83 on April 28, 2007, at 23:40:51
I'm not one one of those people standing on the corner with a "the end is nigh" sign, but the bees really have me worried.
I was reading about them tonight and I had a small panic attack. My heart raced for about 15 minutes and I felt dizzy. I'm still a little shaky, but calmed down.
First it was the a physics experiment in Europe (I won't say which so others don't look it up and get freaked out) that freaked me out. Now it's the bees.
Good news is, scientists say similar bee disappearing incidents have happened before and they repopulated after it was over. And there is an "infinitely small or no" chance anything will happen with the physics experiment.
I feel like if we can just get through 2007, the world won't end and we'll be fine. But I wish I didn't worry so much about things like this, especially things I cannot control. =(
Posted by Honore on April 29, 2007, at 11:14:36
In reply to I'm really worried about the bees dying., posted by Michael83 on April 28, 2007, at 23:40:51
Yeah, one of these really smart scientists will probably create a black hole by mistake, and whoosh! We'll be swept into it before he even knows what's happened. (PS I don't know what experiment you're worried about, but that's one that worries me.)
That plus ebola, skin-eating bacteria, and the eventual existence of a biological weapon that fits into a suitcase in Times Square.
Honore
Posted by Phillipa on April 29, 2007, at 11:34:22
In reply to Re: I'm worried about the bees dying. *trigger*, posted by Honore on April 29, 2007, at 11:14:36
Honore I'm with you on those two. Love Phillipa
Posted by Michael83 on April 29, 2007, at 14:55:29
In reply to Re: I'm worried about the bees dying. *trigger*, posted by Honore on April 29, 2007, at 11:14:36
Yeah that's the one I'm talking about. But it was said that any black holes would be eaten up instantly by Hawking Radiation, that calms my worries a bit.
I don't understand the point of it. Doing dangerous experiments to learn things that will not provide real benefits to us.
But they said the same thing when the build the accelerator in Batavia, IL. And then the bigger one in NY. Nothing bad happened with those two. Now they're building a bigger one. I mean seriously, why not stop while we're ahead?
Posted by Racer on April 29, 2007, at 16:09:47
In reply to Re: I'm worried about the bees dying. *trigger* » Honore, posted by Michael83 on April 29, 2007, at 14:55:29
The amphibians are like canaries in coal mines. The loss of frogs worries me a lot.
But you know what really scares the bejaybers out of me? Losing the Monarch butterflies. It would only take chopping down about two trees, and one bad winter right now. Scary, huh?
On the other hand, the world won't be ending tomorrow, so I do what I can to live my life today.
I hope you feel safer soon.
Posted by Honore on April 29, 2007, at 16:51:08
In reply to Re: I'm worried about the bees dying. *trigger* » Honore, posted by Michael83 on April 29, 2007, at 14:55:29
I say we leave the black holes alone.
Can we investigate something else? Like the death of amphibians--or bees. That's truly deserving of study.
I mean, okay, living dangerously is fun-- but isn't a black hole just a little bit too tricky-- I'm glad there's Hawkings' Radiation (if that will help), but when it comes to black holes, it seems we might want to give them a little more respect.
Honore
Posted by verne on April 30, 2007, at 6:10:55
In reply to I'm with you on that one, Michael83 » Michael83, posted by Honore on April 29, 2007, at 16:51:08
I agree, let's first consider the bee and frog situation. Hawking admitted not long ago that he was completely wrong about black holes anyway.
Our view of the cosmos changes faster than some toad mad-maxes Australia. Hawkings, and more like him, after years around the track, are little further ahead than they started.
Few years back, astronomers discovered an anomaly that was 5 billion years *older* than the starting point of the universe and yet somehow much closer to us. Astro-Physics has been scrambling ever since. Hawking's book on black holes was now kindling.
What they found defied physics, astronomy, their brains, and everybody's brains. Made no sense.
I appreciate your concern about the bees. Animals indicate changes.
verne
Posted by fayeroe on April 30, 2007, at 18:50:24
In reply to I'm really worried about the bees dying., posted by Michael83 on April 28, 2007, at 23:40:51
> I'm not one one of those people standing on the corner with a "the end is nigh" sign, but the bees really have me worried.
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> I was reading about them tonight and I had a small panic attack. My heart raced for about 15 minutes and I felt dizzy. I'm still a little shaky, but calmed down.
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> First it was the a physics experiment in Europe (I won't say which so others don't look it up and get freaked out) that freaked me out. Now it's the bees.
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> Good news is, scientists say similar bee disappearing incidents have happened before and they repopulated after it was over. And there is an "infinitely small or no" chance anything will happen with the physics experiment.
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> I feel like if we can just get through 2007, the world won't end and we'll be fine. But I wish I didn't worry so much about things like this, especially things I cannot control. =(i understand, MIchael. i'm originally from southeastern Oklahoma and when Weyerhauser (huge lumber company) came in the area, all of the butterflies, bees, toads, hummingbirds died due to the chemicals that they used to defoliate the woods. i remember my father, in his late years, being so upset because the butterflies didn't come to his flowers anymore and no hummingbirds to his feeders.
anytime we upset the ecological balance, it is bad news. you aren't alone in worrying about this.......xoxoxo pat
Posted by Declan on April 30, 2007, at 23:16:14
In reply to Hawking was wrong anyway, posted by verne on April 30, 2007, at 6:10:55
There was an interesting little film in the 70s about cane toads.
They had the local policeman from up north saying that them hippies get the toads and boil them up and drink the liquor.
Which may, in fact, have been true, though I never tried it myself.Down the other end of Australia they are quite keen to get the new pulpmill up and the last of the old-growth forests from the north-east of Tasmania processed into pulp before anyone works out how to stop them. The people who own Tasmania will get the cash, and the rest will be able to say that no late-drinking chardonnay-swilling mainlander told them how to run their state. Selling your birthright for a mess of pottage.
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