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Posted by Deneb on September 17, 2005, at 18:19:42
I think I scared Dr. Bob away.
He has the deputies take care of everything now, probably because of me.
Now he doesn't joke around with anyone. It's all my fault.
Deneb
Posted by Phillipa on September 17, 2005, at 18:42:14
In reply to Do you think I scared Dr. Bob away?, posted by Deneb on September 17, 2005, at 18:19:42
Deneb maybe it's a good time to get creative again and add some green hair or something else to Dr. Bob's picture. He liked that. Remember? Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Deneb on September 17, 2005, at 18:49:55
In reply to Re: Do you think I scared Dr. Bob away? » Deneb, posted by Phillipa on September 17, 2005, at 18:42:14
> Deneb maybe it's a good time to get creative again and add some green hair or something else to Dr. Bob's picture. He liked that. Remember? Fondly, Phillipa
I don't think that is a good idea. I don't think he wants to interact with me. I think I scared him or something. I remember it was really funny and everyone had a fun time, but now everything has changed because of the bad e-mails I sent. I don't think I will go to jail because I never threatened him or anything, but I still harassed him for a week. I will probably go to jail if I send him another e-mail. I ruined everything. :-(
All my fault.
Deneb
Posted by Sarah T. on September 17, 2005, at 19:40:13
In reply to Do you think I scared Dr. Bob away?, posted by Deneb on September 17, 2005, at 18:19:42
Hi Deneb,
I don't think you scared Dr. Bob away. I'm sorry to say, I don't think you have that kind of power, although a part of you might wish you did.
Dr. Bob is a busy man. I know very little about him other than that he is a psychiatrist on staff at an excellent University. In addition to his clinical duties AT THE UNIVERSITY, he owns and administrates this web site and, as of a few years ago, he had a wife. I assume he has a family. With all those irons in the fire, I doubt that he has much time to spend thinking about any one of us in particular. That might come as a disappointment to you and to some others here. He isn't your psychiatrist or mine. He is not our doctor. I think the feelings and thoughts you have about him are common for people to have towards their psychiatrists/therapists/psychoanalysts. Those feelings are part of what is known as transference. Transference is very helpful in the right setting (i.e., in therapy). Transference is the crux of psychoanalytic psychotherapy. I think it would be really good if you could find an excellent therapist to help you through some of these feelings.
How is school coming along?
Sarah
Posted by Gabbix2 on September 17, 2005, at 19:58:56
In reply to Re: Do you think I scared Dr. Bob away? » Deneb, posted by Sarah T. on September 17, 2005, at 19:40:13
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> I don't think you scared Dr. Bob away. I'm sorry to say, I don't think you have that kind of power, although a part of you might wish you did.I definitely agree, especially after all Dr.Bob has seen here he definitely would not change his behaviour because of one poster!
Deneb, Dr. Bob has said he cares about us as a group. But I can almost guarantee that anyone who is looking for any personal response, be it extremely positive/or negative is going to be dissappointed.
Posted by Deneb on September 17, 2005, at 20:44:13
In reply to Re: Do you think I scared Dr. Bob away? » Deneb, posted by Sarah T. on September 17, 2005, at 19:40:13
> Hi Deneb,
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> I don't think you scared Dr. Bob away. I'm sorry to say, I don't think you have that kind of power, although a part of you might wish you did.Does this mean that I cannot upset him very much?
> I think the feelings and thoughts you have about him are common for people to have towards their psychiatrists/therapists/psychoanalysts. Those feelings are part of what is known as transference.Transference?! I just did a small search on that term...it does kind of sound like what happens to me doesn't it? Is my transference severe? Yikes, I don't know how to control it. I just thought it was projection or something like that because I thought that transference only applied to the client-therapist relationship, but then I found out that it happens all the time between all sorts of people. I guess it doesn't help that Dr. Bob doesn't interact much with us. Yikes! I hope he doesnt think I'm crazy or anything...he probably does now. Or is that more transference??? Eeeek, I'm a little confused.
>Transference is very helpful in the right setting (i.e., in therapy). Transference is the crux of psychoanalytic psychotherapy. I think it would be really good if you could find an excellent therapist to help you through some of these feelings.
I somehow don't think my transference has anything to do with my childhood or anything like that! I don't really believe in psychoanalytic psychotherapy. It sounds too strange for me.
> How is school coming along?
I need to study! I've spent way too much time here today. I study well at the university library, maybe I should go there tomorrow instead of staying at home. I get so little done at home!
Deneb
Posted by Deneb on September 17, 2005, at 21:01:45
In reply to Re: Do you think I scared Dr. Bob away? » Sarah T., posted by Deneb on September 17, 2005, at 20:44:13
http://www.rider.edu/~suler/psycyber/disinhibit.html
Posted by spriggy on September 17, 2005, at 22:00:05
In reply to Re: An interesting read..., posted by Deneb on September 17, 2005, at 21:01:45
I think you'd have to share with me a little more of *what* your emails to Dr. Bob actually said before I could determine if you scared him or not..
Posted by Deneb on September 17, 2005, at 22:17:43
In reply to Re: An interesting read... » Deneb, posted by spriggy on September 17, 2005, at 22:00:05
I don't think it would be civil of me to post them here.
I can send them to you directly if you would like, but he warned that the material you receive may be triggering. There are a lot of threats.
Deneb
Posted by Gabbix2 on September 17, 2005, at 22:28:44
In reply to Re: What I sent » spriggy, posted by Deneb on September 17, 2005, at 22:17:43
>There are a lot of threats.
> I never threatened him or anything
Posted by Deneb on September 17, 2005, at 22:37:04
In reply to Re: What I sent, posted by Gabbix2 on September 17, 2005, at 22:28:44
> >There are a lot of threats.
> > I never threatened him or anythingThere are a lot of threats.
I never threatened *him*Not contradictory
Posted by Phillipa on September 17, 2005, at 22:46:36
In reply to Re: What I sent, posted by Deneb on September 17, 2005, at 22:37:04
Deneb, send them to Spriggy and me and we'll put our heads together. We're friends so we'd work together well and let you know what we think. Or if you like you can Babblemail me and I'll give you my E-mail address. Won't give it on the Board. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Deneb on September 17, 2005, at 22:51:54
In reply to Re: What I sent » Deneb, posted by Phillipa on September 17, 2005, at 22:46:36
Thanks for offering to help me with this Phillipa.
I think I'm going to change my mind about telling others what I sent.
I did tell one person here what I sent, but I was still slightly out of my mind then.
Deneb
Posted by Deneb on September 17, 2005, at 23:19:48
In reply to Re: What I sent » Phillipa, posted by Deneb on September 17, 2005, at 22:51:54
I think maybe Dr. Bob decided to bring in new deputies because of me. I think he removed my silly picture of him so quickly because he wanted to punish me more.
Is this all just transference people?
Posted by sleepygirl on September 17, 2005, at 23:23:01
In reply to Re: I bet I was the last straw, posted by Deneb on September 17, 2005, at 23:19:48
TRANSFERENCE! TRANSFERENCE! TRANSFERENCE!
(you asked for it :-)
Posted by Phillipa on September 17, 2005, at 23:25:14
In reply to Re: I bet I was the last straw » Deneb, posted by sleepygirl on September 17, 2005, at 23:23:01
Deneb, I beat you. Googled phillipa poster and had l4,900 posts. Who can beat that record? Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Gabbix2 on September 18, 2005, at 0:05:51
In reply to Re: What I sent » Deneb, posted by Phillipa on September 17, 2005, at 22:46:36
> Deneb, send them to Spriggy and me and we'll put our heads together. We're friends so we'd work together well and let you know what we think.
Why? If you and Spriggy decide yes they might be scary, it's empowering information and affirmation on how to effectively scare someone the next time you feel like doing it, or if it's not.. how to improve it. Great.
I think only Dr. Bob knows the answer, and shouldn't be spoken for.
Please don't
Posted by Phillipa on September 18, 2005, at 0:21:46
In reply to Re: What I sent » Phillipa, posted by Gabbix2 on September 18, 2005, at 0:05:51
Sorry thought it might be helpful but you know Deneb better than I do. Sorry. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by alexandra_k on September 18, 2005, at 14:29:38
In reply to Re: What I sent » Gabbix2, posted by Phillipa on September 18, 2005, at 0:21:46
I don't think dwelling on them will help you move on from them.
I already told you what I think...
Dr Bob is a person Deneb. Yes he has feelings. Your emails were inappropriate. But I don't think he would leave the boards over them.
Posted by sleepygirl on September 18, 2005, at 20:53:31
In reply to Do you think I scared Dr. Bob away?, posted by Deneb on September 17, 2005, at 18:19:42
Hey Deneb, I'm going to say something and you can tell me not to post to you of course if I piss you off, but it's just something I'm noticing.
You were so sure before you were blocked that Dr. Bob didn't like you, held something against you. When he acknowleged you by putting up the picture you made it was almost like you couldn't handle any evidence of him NOT having ill will toward you.
You really sort of "upped the ante" with your behavior thereafter, and thereby ensured for yourself (by virtue of your own actions) that you would be dealt with harshly.
I think this served to verify for you whatever horrible opinion you must have of yourself and how you imagine other people might be rejecting of you.
I think for whatever reason the idea of what "Dr. Bob" represents brings up something for you.
Food for thought, or not. I wish you the best.
Posted by Deneb on September 18, 2005, at 21:01:36
In reply to Re: Do you think I scared Dr. Bob away? » Deneb, posted by sleepygirl on September 18, 2005, at 20:53:31
I'll have to disagree with you there.
It might seem like there was a connection between Dr. Bob putting up my silly picture and me posting inappropriate things because they happened so close to one another, but they are unrelated.
I often sink into morbid thoughts after a period of intense happiness. I was very happy that my picture got put up. It wasn't that I couldn't stand that he didn't have ill will towards me at all. I know he doesn't have any ill will towards me. I have proof that he doesn't want me to OD. I remember it.
Deneb
Posted by Deneb on September 18, 2005, at 21:28:46
In reply to Re: Do you think I scared Dr. Bob away? » Deneb, posted by sleepygirl on September 18, 2005, at 20:53:31
I'm just curious.
I acknowledge that perhaps I do not know myself or the reasons behind my behaviours.
Do you think maybe I have something against "authority" figures or something?
I don't know, you may be right. Maybe I have something against administrators or something. I also had a pretty "psychotic" reaction the first time I interacted with DocJohn on PsychCentral.
Deneb
Posted by Phillipa on September 18, 2005, at 22:22:01
In reply to What do u think Dr. Bob represents for me? » sleepygirl, posted by Deneb on September 18, 2005, at 21:28:46
Deneb is that forum still open? Tried to get on there about a week ago and kept getting page can't be found. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by sleepygirl on September 19, 2005, at 23:17:06
In reply to What do u think Dr. Bob represents for me? » sleepygirl, posted by Deneb on September 18, 2005, at 21:28:46
I don't know Deneb, it's just that I like attention, especially from male (possibly paternal type figures), so I wonder if that's going on for you, and everyone wants confirmation that they are cared about even though they may expect themselves not to be cared about. People often ensure they will be treated badly because of the expectations (emotional and/or otherwise) they have about other people. I don't know if I'm making much sense. I just think a lot.
Posted by Deneb on September 20, 2005, at 0:16:17
In reply to Re: What do u think Dr. Bob represents for me? » Deneb, posted by sleepygirl on September 19, 2005, at 23:17:06
> I don't know Deneb, it's just that I like attention, especially from male (possibly paternal type figures), so I wonder if that's going on for you
That's very interesting for you, but I don't really have any experience with paternal type figures. I don't interact much with my Dad. I don't need attention from males at all, at least I don't think I do. I never get upset when my Dad yells at me...strange thing, but my sister does, even though she absolutely loathes him.
I'm going to have to find out more about this transference thing so I can learn to be more objective in life. I can't have these baseless emotions run my life...I need my life to be based on evidence and observations...objective, empirical things.
Deneb
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