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Posted by Dinah on February 1, 2005, at 21:27:37
In reply to OMG! duh LOL thanks (nm) » Dinah, posted by rainbowbrite on February 1, 2005, at 21:15:47
Posted by Angel Girl on February 1, 2005, at 23:48:32
In reply to Re: new boards..... » Angel Girl, posted by Fallen4MyT on February 1, 2005, at 17:41:11
fallen
You see, this is just the beginning of it. I started reading the thread, oyi it is long, I'm up to Jan 27th. I've made no comments and won't until I'm up to date. I don't want to comment on something that may already be settled further down the thread.
I for one would be very sad if you left. I feel that we made a bond here and I would be losing a friend, someone who reached out to me in a very loving and kind way.
And so the exodus starts . . .
AG
> You may wanna read it...but yes I plan on leaving before I get assigned a box to get in....I will then be gone for good to babble and this email account
>
Posted by Angel Girl on February 2, 2005, at 0:01:55
In reply to Re: new boards..... » Angel Girl, posted by Dinah on February 1, 2005, at 18:04:54
Dinah
Yes, since writing my reply to you I have read some of that very long thread and I feel I understand where most people's feelings lie.
Are the newbies allowed to post on any other forum other than the one designated to them? I have been to several psych forums and this is the *only* one that is set up this way. I see absolutely no purpose to this and if I were a newcomer then I would feel that I wasn't good enough to post with everyone else if I could only stay on that one forum. The whole thing boggles my mind and I see absolutely no good that can come out of this. What I see is a lot of hurt feelings from people who will not be included in these new small boards and a mass exodus. I for one just may follow fallen and leave. This is like separating blacks and whites all over again. Have we not learned from that to treat everyone as equals? Apparently not.... but as usual, Bob will do what Bob wants to do regardless of what anybody else has to say anyway. As a pdoc does he not understand the implications that can occur by going forth with this ridiculous idea????
AG
> I agree with you, which was what I was saying.
>
> As it stands right now, unless you're a newcomer or official greeter you can't reach out to someone on the newbie board. You'll get smacked in the face with a notice that you aren't allowed to post on that board. I don't understand the rationale behind limiting the number of potential responders to a newcomer's post, but Dr. Bob apparently thinks it's for the good of the board.
>
> Mind you, I think official greeters are a grand idea. I just can't see the point in not letting others respond at all.
>
> But Dr. Bob does. Perhaps he could explain his rationale.
Posted by Angielala on February 2, 2005, at 0:05:01
In reply to Psych Central looks interesting....anyone have..., posted by Jai Narayan on January 29, 2005, at 16:19:42
Coming from a girl that gives EVERYONE and EVERYTHING the benefit of the doubt and wants nothing more than to help people- I can tell you that Psych Central is not worth your time. There are egg shells all over tha place, and Dr. john showed me today that he isn't in it to help.... Dr. John totally appalled me and accussed me of nonsense on my very first day! And it was all because he found out I am a PB poster.
So sad
> I visited the site.
> people here are there too.
> It looks interesting but....
> well I am so hooked on this site...why?
> does anyone have any feedback on the other site?
> All the people blocked here are there.
> even Zen is there....
> This site is so easy for me....even with all the rules..
> I have learned the rules here.
> I must be getting old....not so comfortable with change.
> So I am nestled down here....they (who are blocked)will come back to babble eventually.
> Gosh 6 weeks is a long time.
> Ja*
Posted by Angel Girl on February 2, 2005, at 0:07:44
In reply to Re: new boards..... » Angel Girl, posted by rainbowbrite on February 1, 2005, at 20:47:34
rain
Sorry sweetie, didn't mean to confuse anyone, I guess I'm used to using these abbreviations as I've a number of years under my belt from a number of forums. FWIW - for what it's worth. I used another one in another post I made and I'll probably confuse anybody that sees that one too. ;) I know how overwhelming and daunting it is to read that thread that is so bloody long but I started tonight, straight from the first post. I'm now up to the end of Jan 26th. I've got a ways to go before I'm caught up and of course, I'll have to read faster than everybody else is still responding for me to make any headway. I don't intend to join in the conversation until I am up to date as I don't want to repeat something that may already have been dealt with. Give it a try girl.
AG
> Ok just whjen im finally beginning to feel like i have all the lingo down, well the laughing ones are the most important right I get thrown for a loop with new ones AHHH. what on earth is FWIW? I also have to agree with you on this thraed I haven't really read it but it is beginning to grab my attention and im slightly overwhelmed by it. I guess cause i have no clue whats going on LOL
> just wanted to share that. :)
Posted by Angel Girl on February 2, 2005, at 0:08:44
In reply to Re: new boards..... » Dinah, posted by rainbowbrite on February 1, 2005, at 20:49:42
> Im jumping in at the end of this, but whats this about newbies? how long is a person considered NEW? so everyone else is blocked out? I guess Im still new. Ok that is so wrong IMO.
sing it sister.
Posted by Dr. Bob on February 2, 2005, at 0:16:05
In reply to Re: new boards..... » Angel Girl, posted by Dinah on February 1, 2005, at 18:04:54
> so will that be like being in open?
> is it for control?
> how many would be able to post?
> would the board look different?
> so only certain people could post?
>
> If I'm not invited to post on one of the boards....
> would I look through the windows and feel left out?
> will it feel like an elite country club?
>
> or would it be that if I wanted to post but the site was full I’d have to wait till someone left then I could join?
>
> Jai NarayanThey would be message boards like this and not chat rooms like Open. The idea is to for them to have a cozier feel by being smaller. They would look the same, except they might have different background colors.
I was thinking (1) there could be maybe 15-50 posters per board, but other possibilities are (2) giving each one the power to come up with its own policy regarding size or (3) just letting supply and demand determine how large they grew.
Invitations was an early idea that was dropped. People might feel left out of ones that were up and running, but they'd always be able to start new ones themselves. And the current boards would stay open. And there would still be Open, and babblemail.
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> I don't understand the rationale behind limiting the number of potential responders to a newcomer's post
>
> DinahI'm afraid (1) there might start to be lots of conversations between regulars and (2) people might settle in there instead of just getting oriented and moving on to the other boards.
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on February 2, 2005, at 0:22:49
In reply to Re: new boards..... » Dinah, posted by Angel Girl on February 2, 2005, at 0:01:55
> Are the newbies allowed to post on any other forum other than the one designated to them?
Sure, wherever they like! But I think sometimes it's intimidating, so I thought a place just for them to get their feet wet would help them get into the swing of things.
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on February 2, 2005, at 0:26:14
In reply to Psych Central is the anti help forum, posted by Angielala on February 2, 2005, at 0:05:01
> Psych Central is not worth your time.
Sorry, but please respect the views of others and be sensitive to their feelings. Some people do like it there.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
Follow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration. They, as well as replies to the above post, should of course themselves be civil.
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Dinah on February 2, 2005, at 0:39:29
In reply to Re: new boards..... » Dinah, posted by Angel Girl on February 2, 2005, at 0:01:55
No, the newbies aren't restricted. The other PB'ers are. Newbies can post wherever they like.
Posted by All Done on February 2, 2005, at 0:39:36
In reply to Re: new boards....., posted by Dr. Bob on February 2, 2005, at 0:16:05
> They would be message boards like this and not chat rooms like Open. The idea is to for them to have a cozier feel by being smaller. They would look the same, except they might have different background colors.
>
> I was thinking (1) there could be maybe 15-50 posters per board, but other possibilities are (2) giving each one the power to come up with its own policy regarding size or (3) just letting supply and demand determine how large they grew.
>
> Invitations was an early idea that was dropped. People might feel left out of ones that were up and running, but they'd always be able to start new ones themselves. And the current boards would stay open. And there would still be Open, and babblemail.
>
> BobDr. Bob,
1. Are you going to do it?
2. If so, what is your timeline for getting them up and running?Perhaps (?) if you are going to do it, the sooner the better. I hate to see the heated discussions between friends going on about it on Admin in your absence.
Thanks,
Laurie
Posted by Dinah on February 2, 2005, at 0:42:42
In reply to Re: new boards....., posted by Dr. Bob on February 2, 2005, at 0:16:05
Thanks for explaining the rationale behind the newbie board restrictions, Dr. Bob.
I agree with the settling in part. Ahem.
But I think you could trust the rest of Babble to understand the purpose of the Newbie board and to post accordingly. And you've never been shy about redirecting if they don't. In the meantime, nice posters who want to help a particular newcomers get a slap in the face. And newcomers don't get the nice posters' input.
Posted by Dinah on February 2, 2005, at 0:43:50
In reply to Re: new boards..... » Dr. Bob, posted by Dinah on February 2, 2005, at 0:42:42
I meant the nice posters who can't post. They'll get lovely responses from the nice posters who are official greeters or who are themselves newbies.
Posted by Fallen4MyT on February 2, 2005, at 0:56:29
In reply to Re: new boards..... » Fallen4MyT, posted by Angel Girl on February 1, 2005, at 23:48:32
I understand and lol the thread is long very long ...HUGS
> fallen
>
> You see, this is just the beginning of it. I started reading the thread, oyi it is long, I'm up to Jan 27th. I've made no comments and won't until I'm up to date. I don't want to comment on something that may already be settled further down the thread.
>
> I for one would be very sad if you left. I feel that we made a bond here and I would be losing a friend, someone who reached out to me in a very loving and kind way.
>
> And so the exodus starts . . .
>
> AG
>
>
> > You may wanna read it...but yes I plan on leaving before I get assigned a box to get in....I will then be gone for good to babble and this email account
> >
>
Posted by Dr. Bob on February 2, 2005, at 1:43:58
In reply to Oh drat it. Clarification., posted by Dinah on February 2, 2005, at 0:43:50
> 1. Are you going to do it?
> 2. If so, what is your timeline for getting them up and running?
>
> LaurieMy inclination is at least to give it a try. Sorry, but as old-timers can probably tell you, my timelines aren't very straight...
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> In the meantime, nice posters who want to help a particular newcomers get a slap in the face.
>
> DinahMaybe that's something else I should reword? Any suggestions? :-)
Bob
Posted by Dinah on February 2, 2005, at 1:50:28
In reply to Re: new boards....., posted by Dr. Bob on February 2, 2005, at 1:43:58
> My inclination is at least to give it a try.I TOLD you all so. I may be completely impotent when it comes to getting through to Dr. Bob, but I am gooooood when it comes to reading him. I KNEW it was a done deal.
I knew it, I knew it. I said it, I said it. (Insert little dance here.) I am soooo not schizotypal. I'm just good at reading people.
Sorry, but I deserve a bit of validation in the face of so much other nasty stuff.
Posted by Dinah on February 2, 2005, at 2:05:43
In reply to Re: new boards....., posted by Dr. Bob on February 2, 2005, at 1:43:58
>> Maybe that's something else I should reword? Any suggestions? :-)
>
> BobYes, Dr. Bob. And thanks for giving me that lovely opening. Naturally I can't say what suggestions leapt instantly to mind. But I will suggest that you give babblers enough credit to drop the restrictions and let anyone post there. And that you keep the official greeters. That's a nice touch.
If you must keep the restrictions, I suggest that you humbly apologize and blame your own issues when you slam the door in people's faces.
Posted by Fallen4MyT on February 2, 2005, at 2:16:15
In reply to Ok, this time I'm going to say it, posted by Dinah on February 2, 2005, at 1:50:28
to that fact not long ago....So my days are very short here....
Posted by Fallen4MyT on February 2, 2005, at 2:24:08
In reply to I KNEW it was a done deal too Dinah...I posted, posted by Fallen4MyT on February 2, 2005, at 2:16:15
I will be saying goodbye at 3 a.m friday night.
Posted by Dinah on February 2, 2005, at 2:24:30
In reply to I KNEW it was a done deal too Dinah...I posted, posted by Fallen4MyT on February 2, 2005, at 2:16:15
Sigh. I hope not. I hope you can find a way to continue to try to make a difference here, even if it feels like you really can't at times.
My therapist tells me that sometimes, though for the life of me I can't remember the words.
Posted by Dinah on February 2, 2005, at 2:29:28
In reply to my timelines are very straight, posted by Fallen4MyT on February 2, 2005, at 2:24:08
I can't remember what it is he said. But part of it was along the lines that it was no skin of Dr. Bob's nose whether I stayed or went. So leaving wasn't much of an effective protest. That I could make more of a difference by staying and continuing to voice my beliefs.
I dunno. I never really listen to the exact words. But something seeps into my hard head.
Posted by Fallen4MyT on February 2, 2005, at 2:31:52
In reply to Re: I KNEW it was a done deal too Dinah...I posted » Fallen4MyT, posted by Dinah on February 2, 2005, at 2:24:30
Thanks Dinah but you outta know me by now....I think we made a difference in that we spoke up...and were not lead like sheep....that shows integrity and I am proud of us.
> Sigh. I hope not. I hope you can find a way to continue to try to make a difference here, even if it feels like you really can't at times.
>
> My therapist tells me that sometimes, though for the life of me I can't remember the words.
>
Posted by Fallen4MyT on February 2, 2005, at 2:38:50
In reply to Re: my timelines are very straight » Fallen4MyT, posted by Dinah on February 2, 2005, at 2:29:28
I totally understand your point and if it were Dr Bob that I was trying to get skin off of :) I would agree but I really cannot stay for me it is the principle ...all it is for me. That is all stated on the Admin boards. :) as you know lol but I shall play and talk and say a slow goodbye to all. I am not one to say I am going and be swayed. It IS the principle of the issue for me and for OTHERS.
> I can't remember what it is he said. But part of it was along the lines that it was no skin of Dr. Bob's nose whether I stayed or went. So leaving wasn't much of an effective protest. That I could make more of a difference by staying and continuing to voice my beliefs.
>
> I dunno. I never really listen to the exact words. But something seeps into my hard head.
Posted by Skittles on February 2, 2005, at 10:27:05
In reply to Re: my timelines are very straight » Dinah, posted by Fallen4MyT on February 2, 2005, at 2:38:50
Here's my thought on this issue. If you don't like the idea of the new boards, just don't use them. Bob has said that the old boards will stay, so we can stick with those and it will be business as usual. Is it really necessary to leave in order to voice your opinions? Couldn't you do so by *not* using the new boards? I've become fond of so many people here and I'd hate to see any of you leave.
I personally don't like the idea for the new boards. As I understand it, I think the whole concept is pretty *junior high* in it's cliquish-ness and exclusivity. I hated junior high and I don't plan to revert to that behavior. Therefore, I don't plan to participate in the new boards. But I love the old boards and I plan to stick with what works as long as it's here.
Posted by Angel Girl on February 2, 2005, at 10:42:28
In reply to Don't like them? Don't use them!, posted by Skittles on February 2, 2005, at 10:27:05
I agree. We should all boycott the new smaller boards, not that I would get picked to go in them anyways, not even understanding how that even works.
AG
> Here's my thought on this issue. If you don't like the idea of the new boards, just don't use them. Bob has said that the old boards will stay, so we can stick with those and it will be business as usual. Is it really necessary to leave in order to voice your opinions? Couldn't you do so by *not* using the new boards? I've become fond of so many people here and I'd hate to see any of you leave.
>
> I personally don't like the idea for the new boards. As I understand it, I think the whole concept is pretty *junior high* in it's cliquish-ness and exclusivity. I hated junior high and I don't plan to revert to that behavior. Therefore, I don't plan to participate in the new boards. But I love the old boards and I plan to stick with what works as long as it's here.
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