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Posted by muffled on November 20, 2005, at 23:13:43
You ok'ish?
Muffled
Posted by Tamar on November 21, 2005, at 18:05:23
In reply to Tamar, how goes it?, posted by muffled on November 20, 2005, at 23:13:43
> You ok'ish?
> MuffledThanks for asking, Muffled. It means a lot to me.
I find it hard to read, let alone post, when I'm feeling so down... In fact, I find it hard to muster the strength to push the power button on my computer to turn it on...
I'm sure I will pick up soon. Decision time is tomorrow morning. By lunchtime I should know whether I'm going to see my T again...
Hope you're doing OK.
Thanks (((((Muffled)))))
Tamar
Posted by muffled on November 21, 2005, at 18:20:57
In reply to So-so..., posted by Tamar on November 21, 2005, at 18:05:23
> > You ok'ish?
> > Muffled
>
> Thanks for asking, Muffled. It means a lot to me.
>
> I find it hard to read, let alone post, when I'm feeling so down... In fact, I find it hard to muster the strength to push the power button on my computer to turn it on...
>
> I'm sure I will pick up soon. Decision time is tomorrow morning. By lunchtime I should know whether I'm going to see my T again...
>
> Hope you're doing OK.
>
> Thanks (((((Muffled)))))
>
> Tamar
>
**Thank-you for touching base Tamar. I know it must have been an effort and am touched that you would do so. I'm not sure what you mean by decision time? I do hope you can see a T. What about meds to get you over this episode? Sounds like you been hit really hard, and suddenly. Oh its so hard to be where you are. Don't feel guilty or anything, you have a sickness and thats why everything is so hard. You just need time and some help to get over this patch. I'll be thinking of you. Post when you can, we care here in babbleland.
(((((Tamar))))
Muffled.
Posted by Dinah on November 21, 2005, at 22:29:41
In reply to So-so..., posted by Tamar on November 21, 2005, at 18:05:23
((((Tamar))))
I really hope that however it goes turns out to be the right decision.
I really care about what happens, Tamar. So when you feel up to it, I hope you let us know what you decided.
Posted by Tamar on November 22, 2005, at 17:03:07
In reply to Re: So-so... » Tamar, posted by Dinah on November 21, 2005, at 22:29:41
Thanks so much (((((Muffled))))) and (((((Dinah))))).
I talked to my GP today and she said she thought I was too depressed to benefit from therapy at the moment. So she recommended Prozac. I have my doubts, but I'm popping my first pill tomorrow.
I feel both relieved and disappointed at the idea that I won't be seeing my therapist again, at least in the next little while. But maybe when I'm feeling a bit better I can go back to him.
One thing my GP said was, "Children whose parents commit suicide *never* recover." She admitted she was emotionally blackmailing me a bit. And it scared me a bit too, because I haven't really felt suicidal. But she obviously thought I was so depressed that she needed to say it... Interesting...
Thanks so much for caring. It means so much to me.
Tamar
Posted by happyflower on November 22, 2005, at 17:45:34
In reply to Yummy Prozac! (***and possible trigger***), posted by Tamar on November 22, 2005, at 17:03:07
Oh,I am so sorry to hear that is what happened to one of your parents. (((((Tamar)))) I kinda agree that I don't know if you ever totally get over that. But I do disagree, I think you can never be too depressed for therapy. I am sorry, this is the first I have heard your issues on why you were in therapy in the first place. How old were you when this happend? (if you don't mind talking about it) I don't want to pry/.
Posted by Dinah on November 22, 2005, at 18:21:32
In reply to Yummy Prozac! (***and possible trigger***), posted by Tamar on November 22, 2005, at 17:03:07
I'm sorry you're feeling so badly, yet I do understand that sometimes the depression is too strong for therapy to reach through without the safety net of medication to keep you from falling too far. Especially if you are doing deeper work in therapy.
Once you get a bit stabilized on Prozac, I'm sure therapy would be a useful addition to your treatment.
Do you need your GP's recommendation in order to get therapy where you are? I know that there are some HMO's here who require that you go through your GP to get to any specialist, and I wasn't sure if your system was the same.
I remember when I first started an SSRI. A week or two after I started taking it, I suddenly realized that every sound wasn't grating on me like fingernails on a chalkboard. For the first time in a long time, I didn't feel overstimulated. They didn't turn out to be the long term solution for me (I respond better to anti-anxiety agents), but I remember how much they helped me in that crazy postpartum time.
Posted by annierose on November 22, 2005, at 19:32:14
In reply to Yummy Prozac! (***and possible trigger***), posted by Tamar on November 22, 2005, at 17:03:07
Tamar -
Just wanted to let you know that I'm thinking of you and hoping that you will feel better soon. Pain, no matter the reason, is so darn hard! And I do agree with the other posters, sometimes the medication can help you deal better with the issues brought forth in therapy. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. Hoping the prozac brings you some relief ASAP ... but it may take a few days to kick in.
I wish I had a magic wand to help.
Posted by Tamar on November 22, 2005, at 19:40:48
In reply to Re: Yummy Prozac! (***and possible trigger***), posted by happyflower on November 22, 2005, at 17:45:34
> Oh,I am so sorry to hear that is what happened to one of your parents.
Oh! Sorry! Didn’t mean to give the wrong impression! No, my parents are both still alive. My GP meant that I shouldn’t commit suicide because *my kids* wouldn’t ever get over it. She admitted she was emotionally blackmailing me…
I was in therapy in the first place because I was depressed in connection with my diabetes (and the unplanned pregnancy, and the marriage difficulties, and the financial problems, and the issues with work…). It all adds up…
Posted by Tamar on November 22, 2005, at 19:44:46
In reply to Re: Yummy Prozac! (***and possible trigger***) » Tamar, posted by Dinah on November 22, 2005, at 18:21:32
> I'm sorry you're feeling so badly, yet I do understand that sometimes the depression is too strong for therapy to reach through without the safety net of medication to keep you from falling too far. Especially if you are doing deeper work in therapy.
That seemed to be my GP’s view.
> Once you get a bit stabilized on Prozac, I'm sure therapy would be a useful addition to your treatment.
I hope so…
> Do you need your GP's recommendation in order to get therapy where you are? I know that there are some HMO's here who require that you go through your GP to get to any specialist, and I wasn't sure if your system was the same.
Yeah, that’s the way it is where I am. I have to go through my GP for almost everything.
> I remember when I first started an SSRI. A week or two after I started taking it, I suddenly realized that every sound wasn't grating on me like fingernails on a chalkboard. For the first time in a long time, I didn't feel overstimulated. They didn't turn out to be the long term solution for me (I respond better to anti-anxiety agents), but I remember how much they helped me in that crazy postpartum time.
Maybe it’s a postpartum thing for me. I’ve been told to expect the first two weeks to feel pretty bad. After that, things are supposed to start getting a little better. It’s a bad time for me, because I have a lot of work… but the GP told me not to work… we’ll see…
Posted by Tamar on November 22, 2005, at 19:46:36
In reply to Re: Yummy Prozac! (***and possible trigger***) » Tamar, posted by annierose on November 22, 2005, at 19:32:14
> Tamar -
>
> Just wanted to let you know that I'm thinking of you and hoping that you will feel better soon. Pain, no matter the reason, is so darn hard! And I do agree with the other posters, sometimes the medication can help you deal better with the issues brought forth in therapy. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. Hoping the prozac brings you some relief ASAP ... but it may take a few days to kick in.
>
> I wish I had a magic wand to help.Ah, a magic wand would be just the thing! And if you have a crystal ball, that might help too!
Thanks, Annierose.
Tamar
Posted by daisym on November 23, 2005, at 10:12:09
In reply to Yummy Prozac! (***and possible trigger***), posted by Tamar on November 22, 2005, at 17:03:07
Tamar,
Are you still nursing? I'm sorry, I forgot how old the baby is now. There are several "postpartum" dips but a lot of people think it is only the first month that the hormones get you...5-6 months after birth can be just as bad. We can talk about that if you want.
I'm glad you talked to your GP. So many women don't, they think they have to struggle through. I wish it was easier for you right now. I hope you feel better quickly. I must say that I think all new moms can benefit from someone to talk to, so I hope she gives you a referral to therapy soon. And I highly recommend a mother's club is you have one in your area. I suspect you would be a welcome addition to the group with your insights.
Please let us know how you are doing. I'm sorry I haven't been more support lately.
Hugs and Happy Thanksgiving,
Daisy
Posted by Dinah on November 23, 2005, at 10:50:57
In reply to Re: Yummy Prozac! (***and possible trigger***) » Dinah, posted by Tamar on November 22, 2005, at 19:44:46
Don't underestimate postpartum. I was still a wreck preoccupied with suicide when I started luvox seven months after my son's birth. And it really didn't lift until well after that.
I know you aren't a first time mom, but the stress of a baby on top of other children must bring its own challenges. Not to mention the added pressure of undone work (I'm really familiar with that one). Toooo much to do, too many expectations, pressure from all sides. A decent recipe for depression and anxiety.
Which all points to the value of therapy as well as medication. It's a shame you have to go through your gp to get it. :(
Posted by muffled on November 23, 2005, at 12:58:47
In reply to Yummy Prozac! (***and possible trigger***), posted by Tamar on November 22, 2005, at 17:03:07
> Thanks so much (((((Muffled))))) and (((((Dinah))))).
>
> I talked to my GP today and she said she thought I was too depressed to benefit from therapy at the moment. So she recommended Prozac. I have my doubts, but I'm popping my first pill tomorrow.
>
> I feel both relieved and disappointed at the idea that I won't be seeing my therapist again, at least in the next little while. But maybe when I'm feeling a bit better I can go back to him.
>
> One thing my GP said was, "Children whose parents commit suicide *never* recover." She admitted she was emotionally blackmailing me a bit. And it scared me a bit too, because I haven't really felt suicidal. But she obviously thought I was so depressed that she needed to say it... Interesting...
>
***That was a weird thing for her to say. She sounds like a good GP. Just lays it on the line. I think thats good. And what she said is true. I have a friend in that situ.
Anyhow, new baby!!!!!!!Whoah. Challenging wee creatures aren't they, and yet so cute. I am assuming you are keeping him/her? Tell us more if you can.
How goes it with getting on the meds? I have found it somewhat challenging for the first little while getting on them until my body get used to them. Then its pretty damn releiving.
So glad to see you back.
Who was it that said you should be T? I think she's right. Seriously. I think you have a gift. Any tiny chance of you ever persuing it at some point in your life? I guess right now you don't even know which way is up. Dumb question muffled.
So take care, :)
Muffled
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