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Posted by B2chica on September 30, 2005, at 9:06:56
had to go to crisis center again. luckily i called at the last minute (i'd completed three of the four steps and all the blood scared me and i called a crisis number.)
anyway, i lied to get out, i'm still suicidal but i don't want to act. i'ts like it's some outside force telling me i have to act. i see pdoc tomorrow so maybe reajust meds???
anyway, in order to get out of that crisis center i had to agree to be committed to the community mental health center on an outpatient basis...(actual little hearing and everything). i had no choice if i wanted out. so i agreed. now my life is in the hands of someone i don't know and certainly don't trust. my T's gonna try to gain a supervisory position but the guy that talked with him said it's out of his hands.
i'm so scared...cubic me you KNOW how i HHHAAATTTEEE groups. now it's once a week on saturdays. i'm glad i don't have to take off more work but it's not fair that i have to pay for something i'm being FORCED to attend.
i HATE groups!
well...i guess i did pray about my outcome so i'm hoping there is a reason for this.three words i was able to get out to my T yesterday....i don't want to die.
i was so drunk and drugged, i was so out of it, had the paramedics not come....i just can't even think. this was too close. it's snapped me into reality.
no matter HOW hard, i'm going to fight these feelings with all i have. it's Sooooooo hard though.
still having S. feelings but...someone above asked to know if anyone has had successful dbt?
i'd like to know that answer too. i'm hoping i only have to go for a few months.
please give me some hope.b2c.
Posted by B2chica on September 30, 2005, at 9:08:35
In reply to stupid F-ing DBT ****S. TRIGGER****, posted by B2chica on September 30, 2005, at 9:06:56
Posted by terrics on September 30, 2005, at 11:59:31
In reply to stupid F-ing DBT ****S. TRIGGER****, posted by B2chica on September 30, 2005, at 9:06:56
Hi b2c, It is me who asked if anyone has had success with DBT. I have been doing it for a year and a half and I think I see a very tiny improvement. My therapist the ice woman is difficult to deal with and as I said above somewhere I can be very cruel to her. She takes it well. I think fw suggested I look up the characteristics of a good DBT therapist because it is difficult dealing with someone who appears so cold. I e-mailed this question to an expert. Hopefully I will get a response. It is the most difficult treatment I have tried and I think a person has to be very commited to it.
From what you wrote above you were forced into a DBT group. If so the only way DBT can supposedly work is if you belong to the group and have an individual DBT therapist. All of it is such a huge adjustment that I still have BIG doubts. I keep plugging along in hopes that it will work as nothing else has ever worked. Please let me know what the hospital is making you do and how you are coping. terrics
Posted by B2chica on September 30, 2005, at 12:25:54
In reply to Re: stupid F-ing DBT ****S. TRIGGER**** » B2chica, posted by terrics on September 30, 2005, at 11:59:31
> Hi b2c, It is me who asked if anyone has had success with DBT. I have been doing it for a year and a half and I think I see a very tiny improvement.
that's what i was afraid of.
>>I e-mailed this question to an expert. Hopefully I will get a response.let me know if you get a response.
>>It is the most difficult treatment I have tried and I think a person has to be very commited to it.
-well, i'm 'committed' alright (ha, pun there-they've committed me on outpatient basis)
> From what you wrote above you were forced into a DBT group.YES! course i never would have gone on my own. i'm just praying that there is a reason, that maybe this will help???
>>If so the only way DBT can supposedly work is if you belong to the group and have an individual DBT therapist.
i can't afford an ind. T./along with mine and i will NEVER give him up. EVER!
>>All of it is such a huge adjustment that I still have BIG doubts. I keep plugging along in hopes that it will work as nothing else has ever worked. terrics
i wish all the best for you terrics. i hope there is hope with this tx. for both your and my sake.
good luck
b2c.
Posted by B2chica on September 30, 2005, at 12:26:50
In reply to Re: stupid F-ing DBT ****S. TRIGGER**** » B2chica, posted by terrics on September 30, 2005, at 11:59:31
thanks for the comments. the problem is i have to keep going until a therapist there thinks i've made enough progress to stop. i can't afford a year of that! not to mention the time. i'm willing to go for a couple months, h@ll maybe it will help. but i Hate groups!!!!! i won't talk in front of groups that's why i'm afraid they'll never let me stop.
i want my T and ONLY my T to know my sh#t history. i don't want my cr@p spread all over town. it's not exactly a city, it's small and so the people that are in this group i'm sure i'll bump into sometime or another. PLUS i have MAJOR issues with trusting women.
groups AND woman!!! you've got to be fuggin kidding me (thanks atticus).i can only hope it's something i can fake my way out of.
i'm praying that my T will have SOME kind of input....PLEASE all you babblers pray or send out postive vibes that my T will have SOME input as to my treatment there. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!scared and tired
b2c.
Posted by rubenstein on September 30, 2005, at 16:09:53
In reply to stupid F-ing DBT ****S. TRIGGER****, posted by B2chica on September 30, 2005, at 9:06:56
I am so sorry. I hate groups too. Please take care of yourself. You can get through this. I believe in you, and need you to be here. Take care
Rachel
Posted by Emily Elizabeth on September 30, 2005, at 16:14:53
In reply to Re: stupid F-ing DBT, posted by B2chica on September 30, 2005, at 12:26:50
I'm sorry to hear abt this whole situation. I think that the vagueness of it really is hard. Is there a way to re-negotiate the terms of the "contract" so that you will attend and be attentive (notice I did not say share) a certain number of sessions (maybe like 8?). That might be better than having to be there until someone decides that you have made progress. I wonder if that would satisfy them. I don't think that it helps anyone to have hostages at a group.
Best,
EE
Posted by lynn970 on September 30, 2005, at 17:13:30
In reply to stupid F-ing DBT ****S. TRIGGER****, posted by B2chica on September 30, 2005, at 9:06:56
I am so sorry that you are having a hard time. I hope and pray that everything turns out good, and that your therapist will get supervisory position. Hang in there. This will pass.
(((B2chica)))
Posted by cubic_me on October 1, 2005, at 8:03:47
In reply to stupid F-ing DBT ****S. TRIGGER****, posted by B2chica on September 30, 2005, at 9:06:56
> i'm so scared...cubic me you KNOW how i HHHAAATTTEEE groups. now it's once a week on saturdays. i'm glad i don't have to take off more work but it's not fair that i have to pay for something i'm being FORCED to attend.
> i HATE groups!
> well...i guess i did pray about my outcome so i'm hoping there is a reason for this.You hate groups, I hate groups, but I got through and was fine. It may not have helped, but I don't think it did me much harm either, and if I'd had an individual T at the same time it might even have done some good as I could have talked about what I was feeling when I was in group. I think the lack of an individual T was what was really wrong with my experience. Like you, I didn't want to talk, so I was left with all these feelings about group and no-one to discuss it with - it not being able to talk about it that was damaging, not the feelings themselves.
I know I'm not you, but if I was in your position I would go to group, but discuss all my concerns with my T. Perhaps they will think that you are not ready for group or that group isn't for you - it's not for everyone. Having said that though, several people in my group thought that they wouldn't like group, and had a really positive experience.
I'm sorry you had to go throuh this crisis, I hope that something good can come out of it. Cubic_me x
Posted by kerria on October 1, 2005, at 16:38:36
In reply to stupid F-ing DBT ****S. TRIGGER****, posted by B2chica on September 30, 2005, at 9:06:56
((((((B2chica))))))safe hugs if you want them.
i'm so so sorry that everything's so hard now. i haven't had that kind of therapy but hopefully it won't be that long and you can go to your own T.
Please take care of you. i hope that it gets better soon. i was committed twice for the same thing. It's really scary to have to meet with the drs. i hope that your T can have more say over everything.
peace,
kerria
Posted by fallsfall on October 1, 2005, at 20:37:00
In reply to Re: stupid F-ing DBT, posted by B2chica on September 30, 2005, at 12:26:50
>>i want my T and ONLY my T to know my sh#t history.
I went to 6 months of Skills Training. My (non-DBT) therapist went to the therapist meetings and supported what they were trying to teach me.
Can you think of it more like a class than like a "group"? You don't need to share personal stuff in DBT class - you just need to practice and learn the skills.
I think that the DBT skills would be helpful for anyone and everyone. I hope it can be a positive experience for you.
Posted by rabidreader on October 3, 2005, at 16:00:00
In reply to Re: stupid F-ing DBT » B2chica, posted by fallsfall on October 1, 2005, at 20:37:00
I had six months of DBT too and found some of the skills very helpful. I had two great teachers though. I also even read the better part of a textbook on DBT. It says the therapists should be very validating of the patient, but also be confrontational if needed. Humor is also recommended.
I'm so sorry you had to go through such a rough time. I, for one, am just d*** glad that you made it out alive and you are here posting on this board. I am sending you healing thoughts, and here is a hug:
((((b2chica)))))
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