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Posted by badhaircut on October 5, 2004, at 15:36:31
I sometimes actually physiologically *feel* a change inside my skull when I switch from one thought to another. I know neurons in the brain don't have sensation, but these feelings are as real as feelings in my gut. It doesn't happen a lot. Some of the sensations are more comfortable than others, and they relate to specific lines of thought (they're not random).
I don't think I'm imagining it. My guess is that I'm feeling sudden changes in blood vessels as different brain areas get activated. Or maybe a new thought is more or less stressful and my eye muscles tighten or relax a little. Or something.
Anybody else get feelings like this?
[I posted this question on the meds board a couple months ago. One person reported similar feelings.]
Posted by 64Bowtie on October 5, 2004, at 17:16:33
In reply to anybody FEEL thoughts in their head?, posted by badhaircut on October 5, 2004, at 15:36:31
bhc,
Like you said, sensory doesn't happen inside the brain cavity. However, a feeling in the gut is feedback from the visceral cortex, since the image of the feeling happens in the brain. Involuntary contractions in our gut, which happen to us most often, are still generated in our "radiators" (the ancients thought all that happenned in our skulls was cooling of our hot blood).
I admit that I have never felt thinking going on. I have felt disgrace, failure, and the pangs of mortification when I did something stupid, inept, wrong, or bad. I had migraines for about five years. I wonder what was going on there. I felt like my brain was being squeezed from the center outward somehow. Glad that was a long time ago now.
I know this is sounding like a "stream-of-unconsciousness". More to the point, the brain convolutions do undulate when complex thinking is going on. Perhaps that's part of what you are refering to.
Rod
Posted by B2Chica on October 5, 2004, at 17:26:30
In reply to anybody FEEL thoughts in their head?, posted by badhaircut on October 5, 2004, at 15:36:31
i don't know that this is what you're talking about but i do get sensations 'in my head', way before i was on ANY kind of med (what i know look back on as being oncoming of manic/hypomanic episode) i would literally feel some type of tingling like sensation (i for some reason equate the color 'purple fire' with this feeling...just thought i'd through that in)
but again with major manic type episodes the spinning/jumping back and forth 'feelings' i get in my head is what drives me batty. it's SO MUCH in my head SO MUCH, i swear it's like i feel the synapses firing in my brain.so it's not Quite like what you are talking about..but i thought i'd pitch in.
Any other Manics out there that feel this?
B2c.
Posted by daisym on October 5, 2004, at 22:58:31
In reply to anybody FEEL thoughts in their head?, posted by badhaircut on October 5, 2004, at 15:36:31
I feel fear in my head. I can actually feel at the tips of my hair and it creeps inside, turning everything cold. Then I can feel my head constrict, like someone wrapped a band around it.
I don't know if this is exactly what you mean but tension can cause you to "feel" with your head.
More often I feel deep pain in my chest. I've always wanted to find an article about pain and tension in different parts of the body and why we carry it there. I'm reading a book called "the body remembers." It is really interesting.
Posted by Dinah on October 5, 2004, at 23:02:15
In reply to anybody FEEL thoughts in their head?, posted by badhaircut on October 5, 2004, at 15:36:31
I think I was the meds board answerer. Yes, I do. When I obsess, the thoughts are in the front part of my head. If I do something to stop the obsessions, I can feel the thoughts shift to a place further back.
I know it sounds odd.
Posted by 64Bowtie on October 5, 2004, at 23:18:21
In reply to Re: anybody FEEL thoughts in their head? » badhaircut, posted by daisym on October 5, 2004, at 22:58:31
> I'm reading a book called "the body remembers."
><<< "Muscle Memory" is another phenomenon that fascinates me. The kinescetic senses an athlete might employ is the clearest example of "muscle memory". Another might be simply driving a car, or walking, even. Very dramatic is what goes on in an earthquake. The muscles cry "foul" to the churning and undulating of the earth. Martial arts relys heavily on the unseen world of balance and placement of the hands and feet. Think of how difficult gymnastics would be if the muscles in our body couldn't image where they are, how fast they are moving, and where they will end up. The imaging I'm talking about happen in the propriaceptor and vestibular cortices of the brain. But a great deal of the process relys on the movement and placement of body parts by our muscles, creating "muscle memories".
<<< Glad you reminded me of their importance... "muscle memory" can be more subtle also. Life threatening events have been able to be re-enacted by reactions in the muscles. This is the cozmic-strange surreal part of "muscle memory".
Rod
Posted by daisym on October 6, 2004, at 0:52:45
In reply to Hey, Daisy, posted by 64Bowtie on October 5, 2004, at 23:18:21
I think it is really interesting too. But my goal is to get those memories "released" so I don't have to feel things as intensely. I'm also starting to wonder if working intensely around age state memories can bring on a hormonal response. My face keeps breaking out!
*sigh*
Posted by badhaircut on October 6, 2004, at 18:45:12
In reply to Re: anybody FEEL thoughts in their head? » badhaircut, posted by Dinah on October 5, 2004, at 23:02:15
Thanks for commenting, everyone. Some interesting reports. Clearly, I'm not the only one. I'd like to see if it's been reported in a medical journal. But what to look under?? LOL
Posted by 64bowtie on October 8, 2004, at 12:05:53
In reply to Re: Hey, Daisy » 64Bowtie, posted by daisym on October 6, 2004, at 0:52:45
Posted by daisym on October 8, 2004, at 18:21:47
In reply to » Daisy » ...along with craving chocolate??? (nm), posted by 64bowtie on October 8, 2004, at 12:05:53
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