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Democracy

Posted by sigismund on July 19, 2021, at 23:37:36

Texan who queued for seven hours to vote faces 40-year jail term
By David Millward.

Washington: A 62-year-old Texan who waited seven hours to cast a vote while on parole is facing the threat of 40 years jail for breaking state election laws.

Hervis Earl Rogers from Houston was arrested last week and charged with two counts of illegal voting for casting a ballot in 2018 and again last year while still on parole. He could get 20 years for each. Texas is one of 16 US states where felons lose voting rights in prison and on parole.

Texas man Hervis Earl Rogers, who says he waited for a lit bit over six hours at a polling center in Houston to participate in Super Tuesday last year, was arrested and charged this week with two counts of illegal voting.
Texas man Hervis Earl Rogers, who says he waited for a lit bit over six hours at a polling center in Houston to participate in Super Tuesday last year, was arrested and charged this week with two counts of illegal voting.
Rogers, convicted of burglary in 1989 and 1995, became a national celebrity for queuing for so long in the Democratic primary in March 2020. He said at the time: It is insane, but its worth it. The case against him has been brought by Ken Paxton, the states Republican Attorney-General and an ally of former president Donald Trump.

He was also one of several prominent Republicans who challenged President Joe Bidens victory in the presidential election and has been assiduous in pursuing alleged voting irregularity cases.

Hervis is a felon rightly barred from voting under Texas law, Paxton tweeted. I prosecute voter fraud everywhere we find it!

However, Tommy Buser-Clancy, one of the lawyers representing Rogers, said he believed he was entitled to vote.


Mr Rogerss prosecution really shows the danger of over criminalising the election code and the process of participating in a democratic society, he said. It raises the danger that criminal statutes in the election code are being used to go after individuals who at worst have made an innocent mistake. Thats not what laws should be doing.

Texas laws stipulate that a person must knowingly vote illegally to be guilty of a crime.

 

Re: Democracy

Posted by beckett2 on August 7, 2021, at 16:41:47

In reply to Democracy, posted by sigismund on July 19, 2021, at 23:37:36

One word: Texas.

 

Re: Democracy

Posted by beckett2 on August 7, 2021, at 16:46:30

In reply to Re: Democracy, posted by beckett2 on August 7, 2021, at 16:41:47

> One word: Texas.

"Texans can carry handguns without a license or training starting Sept. 1, after Gov. Greg Abbott on Wednesday signed the permitless carry bill into law.

House Bill 1927 eliminates the requirement for Texas residents to obtain a license to carry handguns if theyre not prohibited by state or federal law from possessing a gun. The signing was reported by the Texas Legislature's official website, which tracks the progress of legislation. Abbott's office has announced a ceremonial signing of the bill and other gun-related legislation at 11 a.m. Thursday.

Abbott's signature seals a win to conservative activists who have long sought the measure without success. Abbott, Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick and other Republicans who were initially noncommittal about the bill were under immense political pressure this session from conservatives and gun rights advocates, who have long lobbied the Texas Legislature for permitless carry but historically struggled to win support.

Before approving the bill, the Senate tacked on several amendments to address concerns by law enforcement groups that opposed permitless carry, worried it would endanger officers and make it easier for criminals to get guns.

The compromise lawmakers reached behind closed doors kept intact a number of changes the Senate made to the House bill, including striking a provision that would have barred officers from questioning people based only on their possession of a handgun.

The deal also preserves a Senate amendment enhancing the criminal penalties for felons and family violence offenders caught carrying. Among other Senate changes that made it into the law was a requirement that the Texas Department of Public Safety offer a free online course on gun safety.

Proponents of what Republicans call constitutional carry argued that Texas should follow the lead of at least 20 other states with similar laws on the books. Meanwhile, gun control advocates are disappointed the Legislature made it easier to carry firearms after repeated instances of gun violence including the 2019 massacres in El Paso and Midland-Odessa that left 30 people dead.


"The permitless carry bill will cause more violence and loss," said U.S. Rep. Veronica Escobar, D-El Paso, in a statement Wednesday. "Despite overwhelming support for common-sense gun violence prevention legislation like universal background checks, Texas Republicans, led by a cowardly governor, are more interested in groveling for the gun lobbys attention than they are in preventing gun violence and honoring victims and survivors in El Paso and across Texas."

A solid majority of Texas voters don't think permitless carry should be allowed, according to an April University of Texas/Texas Tribune Poll.

Before the permitless carry law was signed, Texans generally needed to be licensed to carry handguns openly or concealed. Applicants had to submit fingerprints, complete four to six hours of training, and pass a written exam and a shooting proficiency test. Texas does not require a license to openly carry a rifle in public.

The permitless carry movement saw a breakthrough in April when the House passed HB 1927. Patrick initially said the Senate did not have the votes for permitless carry, but he created a new committee, referred HB 1927 to it and got it to the floor, where it passed in early May.


Some Democrats and state lawmakers from El Paso have denounced the bill, which came during the first legislative session since the 2019 massacres. Abbott and Patrick softened their tones on gun control after those shootings but have been quiet on the issue since.

In 2019, Abbott swore to do everything we can to make sure a crime like this doesnt happen again, raising concerns about state laws allowing private gun sales between strangers without background checks. Patrick went so far as to say he was willing to take an arrow from the gun lobby in order to pursue the change.

But this legislative session, Texas Republicans moved in the opposite direction, pushing to loosen gun laws and vowing to defy any new federal gun rules. Laying out his policy priorities in February, Abbott made no mention of either shooting. He said Texas must become a Second Amendment sanctuary state.

We need to erect a complete barrier against any government official anywhere from treading on gun rights in Texas, Abbott said during his speech.

Of the dozens of gun safety bills lawmakers filed to codify state leaders 2019 calls for action, few have advanced.


 

Re: Democracy

Posted by sigismund on August 7, 2021, at 16:57:17

In reply to Re: Democracy, posted by beckett2 on August 7, 2021, at 16:46:30

You aren't the only people to have been taken over by a death cult. Here is our Deputy Prime Minister.

https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/barnaby-joyce-wasnt-drunk-that-was-just-an-oscar-worthy-performance,15381

 

Re: Democracy

Posted by beckett2 on August 7, 2021, at 17:02:25

In reply to Re: Democracy, posted by sigismund on August 7, 2021, at 16:57:17

I trust this clarifies matters for you.

 

Re: Democracy

Posted by sigismund on August 8, 2021, at 17:15:30

In reply to Re: Democracy, posted by beckett2 on August 7, 2021, at 17:02:25

The Country Party became the party of the mining industry, and Joyce is the mouthpiece.

Known as the beetrooter.

 

Re: Democracy

Posted by alexandra_k on August 9, 2021, at 18:24:04

In reply to Re: Democracy, posted by sigismund on August 8, 2021, at 17:15:30

What do you know about Curtin Sigismund?

It is Western Australia -- yes? Mining community? Or perhaps Western Australia is much bigger than I am thinking so it would be unfair to characterize it in that way.

I am curious because Harlene Hayes is moving from being VC of Otago to being VC of Curtin. I am trying to get clear in my own head or mind what that move is about.

By moving her from Dunedin to Curtin...

She is further from Sydney? Does that make her less of a problem to Sydney? To Australia?

Is Australia trying to help with sending Medical Troops to to involuntariily wrong-ful death people of Paupa New Guinea and Malaysia? Maybe troops to help with the detention camp people? Medical Doctors to drip water on their heads and given them cervical examinations or what-not?

Or... What... I don't understand....

 

Re: Democracy

Posted by sigismund on August 10, 2021, at 19:51:35

In reply to Re: Democracy, posted by alexandra_k on August 9, 2021, at 18:24:04

Curtin University? I've never been to WA. There are fewer people there. The Liberals were wiped out at the last state election. Perth sounds forgettable, but the Margaret River wild flowers after rain and the Jarrah forests sound lovely. WA is something like a third of the Australian continent. The much older bit. The Bungle Bungles sound nice. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bungle_Bungle_Range

We may have agreed to send some vaccines to Papua New Guinea. I think.

 

Re: Democracy

Posted by alexandra_k on August 12, 2021, at 16:50:07

In reply to Re: Democracy, posted by sigismund on August 10, 2021, at 19:51:35

Hmm. Australia is a Very Large Continent. I am always surprised, when I look at the map, how close Melbourne is to Sydney, on the map. How far away the shore of Western Australia. I got to Brisbane, but haven't been up any further north, either. Not sure how much it would feel like... A different country. Western Australia, I mean.

I suppose time will tell, with Curtin. It is a pathway whereby New Zealanders can buy their kids places in Medical School. I think. I think that is what that means. They can't get HECs as Australian Citizens, but they only pay domestic fees. I think quite a few kids were getting through New Zealand Medical Schools without any New Zealand Student Loans at all. That is to say their parents were paying their fees up-front. Else they were getting them New Zealand Government Scholarships to pay all their fees. For the public places that were taken (or sold) for private advantage.

I don't quite know where Curtin is in the sense of being a public University. But it will be better for NZL if the little psychopaths can head there instead of Dunedin or Auckland. Australia has better resources for dealing with the psychopaths.

Which isn't saying much since here we have nothing. Nothing. Nothing, at all.


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