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Posted by Dr. Bob on April 30, 2004, at 22:51:09
In reply to Origin of Faith, posted by rayww on April 29, 2004, at 21:13:43
Posted by rayww on April 29, 2004, at 21:13:43
> A few years ago I was wondering about the origin of faith. Using the Bible I tried to line up all the genealogy dates, but gave up because there were too many. I did however notice that every 1000 years there was some kind of a major change in the earth; continents divided, earth quakes, etc.
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> The true nature of God has been a "faith" issue since the fall of Adam because although Adam walked and talked with God in the Garden, that intimate communication ceased when he was cast out. Thus, the origin of faith is the fall of Adam.
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> The truth about God could only be passed down from father to son (mother to daughter more likely). Understanding the nature of man, paths would stray every which way, but many true vines of truth and knowledge would survive.
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> While surfing today I found this "treasure". It is a lot of words, but many of my questions were answered about who lived when in the early days of man.
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> The Bible is a remarkable record, and this article lists the Bible genealogy chronologicly.
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> I have also been reading (listening to a tape) about the Dead Sea Scrolls. (which had not yet been discovered at the time of the writing of this other article) The Dead Sea Scrolls link the Old Testament with the New Testament, spanning that period of time between Malachi and John the Baptist. It is another remarkable record. The scrolls contain a complete Bible, from about 1000 years earlier than ours that is very near to the one we use today, and also include the Aprocrypha (Old Testament Books not in Hebrew Bible) as well as many other books, mistakes and errors mingled with accuracy.
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> I find it faith strengthening that evidence and witnesses have endured all time to teach us there is a God in Heaven who created this earth and placed man and woman upon it.
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> One point that caught my interest in the article: Noah died in the 2006th year from the beginning and we're now at 2004 years since the death of Christ. I believe Gordon B. Hinckley is a prophet like Noah, here to save us from the floods of today. He is 93. I wonder if he will live until 2006.
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> Is that significant? Probably not, but here's the lecture on faith site if anyone cares.
> http://www.celestial-orb.com/Lectures%20on%20Faith/theology_lecture_second_on_faith.htm
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Posted by Harrach on May 2, 2004, at 10:58:52
In reply to Origin of Faith « rayww, posted by Dr. Bob on April 30, 2004, at 22:51:09
> Posted by rayww on April 29, 2004, at 21:13:43
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> > A few years ago I was wondering about the origin of faith. Using the Bible I tried to line up all the genealogy dates, but gave up because there were too many. I did however notice that every 1000 years there was some kind of a major change in the earth; continents divided, earth quakes, etc.
> >Looks like not much happened in the way of catastrophy around this millenium, Dr. Bob,.. relatively speaking. I am ok with having the earth in a stable condition. I have kids. Do you ?
> > The true nature of God has been a "faith" issue since the fall of Adam because although Adam walked and talked with God in the Garden, that intimate communication ceased when he was cast out. Thus, the origin of faith is the fall of Adam.
That is an interesting thought, dr. Bob. I have always thought that the 'original sin' is a bad rap to begin with, and it originated as way of humans explaining to themselves the separation from God that happens when they get born. I always wondered, how the world would be if we taught that at the beginning there was not sin, but a painful trauma.
Maybe God does not send us here to punish us, and
maybe Jesus did not die for sins that did not yet happen, as much as for the lack of compassion and understanding in his own age. Maybe. Just a thought that my God sent me to consider.> >
> > The truth about God could only be passed down from father to son (mother to daughter more likely). Understanding the nature of man, paths would stray every which way, but many true vines of truth and knowledge would survive.There is no truth about God - Jesus taught - than the truth that you and I live. We are all stations on God's radio, we all have different tastes in his music.
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> > While surfing today I found this "treasure". It is a lot of words, but many of my questions were answered about who lived when in the early days of man.
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> > The Bible is a remarkable record, and this article lists the Bible genealogy chronologicly.
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> > I have also been reading (listening to a tape) about the Dead Sea Scrolls. (which had not yet been discovered at the time of the writing of this other article) The Dead Sea Scrolls link the Old Testament with the New Testament, spanning that period of time between Malachi and John the Baptist. It is another remarkable record. The scrolls contain a complete Bible, from about 1000 years earlier than ours that is very near to the one we use today, and also include the Aprocrypha (Old Testament Books not in Hebrew Bible) as well as many other books, mistakes and errors mingled with accuracy.
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> > I find it faith strengthening that evidence and witnesses have endured all time to teach us there is a God in Heaven who created this earth and placed man and woman upon it.
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> > One point that caught my interest in the article: Noah died in the 2006th year from the beginning and we're now at 2004 years since the death of Christ.Please, check that math again dr. Bob
>>I believe Gordon B. Hinckley is a prophet like Noah, here to save us from the floods of today. He is 93. I wonder if he will live until 2006.Again, folks, in the interest of therapy here - I don't see signs of 'apocalypse' and for those who do I would recommend to invest in our future by mothering or fathering a child or two. It will change your ideas of the future, unless the illness is too far gone.
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Posted by Dinah on May 2, 2004, at 11:25:02
In reply to Re: Origin of Faith, posted by Harrach on May 2, 2004, at 10:58:52
That wasn't Dr. Bob's post, Harrach. He just moved a post of Ray's to this board. That's wwhat the << means when Dr. Bob is the poster.
Posted by Harrach on May 2, 2004, at 11:40:02
In reply to Re: Origin of Faith » Harrach, posted by Dinah on May 2, 2004, at 11:25:02
> That wasn't Dr. Bob's post, Harrach. He just moved a post of Ray's to this board. That's wwhat the << means when Dr. Bob is the poster.
My apologies to dr.Bob, notes are meant for Ray. Thanks for the tip Dinah, evidently I am a newbie here.
Posted by rayww on May 2, 2004, at 21:08:29
In reply to Re: Origin of Faith, posted by Harrach on May 2, 2004, at 10:58:52
> Again, folks, in the interest of therapy here - I don't see signs of 'apocalypse' and for those who do I would recommend to invest in our future by mothering or fathering a child or two. It will change your ideas of the future, unless the illness is too far gone.
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>What a good suggestion. Invest all we can in today, and let the future take care of itself. It has been suggested that people in every circumstance rich or poor, bond or free can find happiness. We are first of all responsible for our own happiness and attitude. Love and forgive yourself and spread that love and forgiveness over humanity, especially your own family. In so doing remember this thought, "Sacrifice brings forth the blessings of heaven" and "No other success can compensate for failure in the home".
So, if you had known it was me you were writing to would you have changed anything? I don't know how I missed the faith board when I posted it. I slipped up.
Posted by NikkiT2 on May 19, 2004, at 6:34:12
In reply to Origin of Faith « rayww, posted by Dr. Bob on April 30, 2004, at 22:51:09
Could it be humanity that is changing at the moment, rather than something physical.
Nikki
Posted by rayww on May 19, 2004, at 16:26:31
In reply to this major change.., posted by NikkiT2 on May 19, 2004, at 6:34:12
That is a very good thought Nikki. I think you may be right.
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