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Posted by karenblum on July 21, 2007, at 12:44:09
Hi - A recent test showed my dopamine levels to be within normal range; however, norepinephrine and epinephrine were LOW (as well as low serotonin). Does anyone know what can help convert the dopamine to NE? Or how to boost NE levels directly? THANKS>
Karen
Posted by linkadge on July 21, 2007, at 19:45:19
In reply to dopamine-norepinephrine conversion defect?, posted by karenblum on July 21, 2007, at 12:44:09
Yeah, I've heard of such problems.
Apparently some shizohprenics have some problems with ratios of dopamine/norepinephrine.
I think vitamin C may help. Try 500-1000mg. I think it is involved in the synthesis of norepinephrine from dopamine.
(I think some personality traits are also linked to high dopamine, low norepinephrine.)
I may be wrong.
Linkadge
Posted by karenblum on July 21, 2007, at 20:43:04
In reply to Re: dopamine-norepinephrine conversion defect? » karenblum, posted by linkadge on July 21, 2007, at 19:45:19
> Yeah, I've heard of such problems.
>
> Apparently some shizohprenics have some problems with ratios of dopamine/norepinephrine.
>
> I think vitamin C may help. Try 500-1000mg. I think it is involved in the synthesis of norepinephrine from dopamine.
>
> (I think some personality traits are also linked to high dopamine, low norepinephrine.)
>
> I may be wrong.
>
> LinkadgeThank you so much for the reply. I was just reading about the vitamin c being a co-factor for the conversion, along with oxygen, copper, and the specific enzyme. So I will definitely try the vitamin C. Not sure about the personality thing in my case (but who am I to say)!. Anyway, no schizophrenia, 'just' depression.
Karen
Posted by saturn on July 22, 2007, at 20:19:28
In reply to dopamine-norepinephrine conversion defect?, posted by karenblum on July 21, 2007, at 12:44:09
> Does anyone know what can help convert the dopamine to NE?
I believe Copper (be aware of copper toxicity).
Posted by karenblum on July 22, 2007, at 23:44:13
In reply to Re: dopamine-norepinephrine conversion defect? » karenblum, posted by saturn on July 22, 2007, at 20:19:28
thanks, Saturn - I am adding a bit of copper (in a multivitamin), as well as extra C.
Posted by tealady on July 23, 2007, at 2:25:36
In reply to dopamine-norepinephrine conversion defect?, posted by karenblum on July 21, 2007, at 12:44:09
I was thinking exercise should help correct this...
so did a google and got this
http://thorax.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/43/4/295so a possibility?
Posted by karenblum on July 23, 2007, at 9:30:30
In reply to Re: dopamine-norepinephrine conversion defect?, posted by tealady on July 23, 2007, at 2:25:36
tealady-thanks for the article. The other two suggestions (vit c and copper) were listed along with OXYGEN as co-factors to the enzyme process that converts dopamine to NE. So...i guess i'll have to increase the exercise (ugh).
karen
Posted by Optimist on August 28, 2007, at 23:35:42
In reply to dopamine-norepinephrine conversion defect?, posted by karenblum on July 21, 2007, at 12:44:09
> Hi - A recent test showed my dopamine levels to be within normal range; however, norepinephrine and epinephrine were LOW (as well as low serotonin). Does anyone know what can help convert the dopamine to NE? Or how to boost NE levels directly? THANKS>
> KarenCopper is the primary enzyme for the conversion of dopamine to norepinephrine. Vitamin C plays a much more minor role.
I would very much suggest you get your estrogen levels checked. Estrogen will very much help with this conversion. It also increases copper uptake from your diet.
If your serotonin is low you may also be deficient in progesterone. Ask your doctor to test these hormones. Hopefully your test results will be able to point you in the right direction.
Brian
Posted by karenblum on August 30, 2007, at 19:18:10
In reply to dopamine-norepinephrine conversion defect?, posted by karenblum on July 21, 2007, at 12:44:09
thank you Brian.
Posted by rina on September 16, 2007, at 16:39:49
In reply to dopamine-norepinephrine conversion defect?, posted by karenblum on July 21, 2007, at 12:44:09
I'm curious. what type of test will give you this information? I would be interested in doing it myself. Thanks.
Posted by karenblum on September 20, 2007, at 23:09:21
In reply to Re: dopamine-norepinephrine conversion defect? » karenblum, posted by rina on September 16, 2007, at 16:39:49
Rina - There is a company called Neuroscience in Wisconsin that does neurotransmitter testing. Their website is neurorelief.com. They will put you in touch with a doctor in your area that orders the testing for you. I did it at home (urine/saliva) and mailed it back to them. Good luck.
Karen
Posted by rina on September 21, 2007, at 15:28:54
In reply to Re: dopamine-norepinephrine conversion defect?, posted by karenblum on September 20, 2007, at 23:09:21
thanks a million karen.
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