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Posted by irishcatholic on December 15, 2003, at 13:48:48
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/12/15/145455.shtml
Posted by McPac on December 15, 2003, at 17:18:21
In reply to Interrogate Saddam after using trypto-free diet?, posted by irishcatholic on December 15, 2003, at 13:48:48
"After four hours, Saddam will become agitated, depressed, angry and impulsive. Over the next eight to 12 hours, his symptoms will increase, and he will become suicidal. Should he be subjected to a TFM diet over a period of several days, Saddam would become fully psychotic".>>>>>>>>>> After ONLY 4 hours he would become agitated, depressed, angry and impulsive??? And after only 8-12 hours without any tryptophan, he'd become suicidal??? THAT quickly? Do you agree with this author Lar or is he oversimplifying things? Also, the article states that you can test for blood tryptophan levels---but a blood test for tryptophan would ONLY show trypto blood levels at THAT point in time...it could not be used to tell if somebody is chronically deficient in tryptophan, could it? What's interesting to read, for me, in this article is the symptoms resulting from a lack of trypto --- such as depression, anger and agitation. Those are symptoms that I take meds for and when I take the trypto (as I mentioned in my recent postings) those are exactly the symptoms that the trypto works beautifully for in me (plus anxiety). My body sure seems to lack tryptophan. IF my body does lack tryptophan, then WHY? What are some of the possible reasons, physiologically speaking, that could cause someone to take in enough trypto (I'm sure I eat enough of it...I eat good) yet still not get its effects? When I take the trypto horse product, I feel the effects (mood lifts, anxiety/agitation lessen)....but what keeps me from feeling the effects of dietary trypto in foods? Pfeiffer told me that high histamine blocks the production of serotonin, hence their theory that lowering my very high histamine levels will result in increased serotonin production. But I'll bet there could be many factors for serotonin to be deficient in someone...do you know of other possible reasons Lar? Again, I'm sure that I take in as much dietary trypto as other folks, so why the problem??? I'm just pondering Lar...if you can't think of any possible reasons that's cool. Later!!!
Posted by KellyD on December 15, 2003, at 17:46:57
In reply to Interrogate Saddam after using trypto-free diet?, posted by irishcatholic on December 15, 2003, at 13:48:48
Posted by NoMotic on December 16, 2003, at 11:53:07
In reply to Lar,Re: Interrogate Saddam after using trypto-free, posted by McPac on December 15, 2003, at 17:18:21
As far I know, Tryp free diets don't necessarily make a healthy person feel depressed or anything. In addition, lack of serotonin does not make one psychotic, though its possible to become impulsive, from the viewpoint that OCD and impulsive spectrum disorders can be helped by bringing serotonin levels up. Psychosis is involved with too much dopamine at the D2 receptors and probably too much catecholamine activity in general. In addition, probably too much activity at the 5-HT2a receptor is involved, not too little. I don't agree with most of what this article says and the author comes off as not being very knowledgeable... Tryp free diets induce depression in those people who are currently on antidepressants that function via serotonin, not those that inhibit Norep. reuptake. Nor have tryp free diets conclusively been proven to cause any decline in any mental status in humans - the data still conflicts. Health humans deprived of tryp do not suffer. 12 hours of tryp free diet will hardly cause psychosis, from all I know. But I would suspect it might cause some degree of impulsivity... but how would being impulsive make him tell the truth. If anything, he might just be quicker to get pissed off or argue, lacking the normal inhibition from serotonin.
In my opinion, we should give Saddam antidepressants and antipsychotics - he's delusional and I think he needs a way to feel friendier and remorseful for what he's done. He's already psychotic enough, as anyone would be who's done what he's done. You can't be normal to do that kind of stuff. You have to be delusional...
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