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Posted by Phillipa on December 29, 2009, at 13:20:27
In reply to Re: Adm. ? from Med Forum » 2nd xylophone, posted by Phillipa on December 29, 2009, at 12:30:02
Yeah I'm an idiot that should sprout two heads and jump off a cliff. No more posting of links for me. Phillipa
Posted by 2nd xylophone on December 29, 2009, at 13:23:45
In reply to Re: Adm. ? from Med Forum, posted by Phillipa on December 29, 2009, at 13:20:27
> Yeah I'm an idiot that should sprout two heads and jump off a cliff. No more posting of links for me. Phillipa
Please don't to that.
Posted by Phillipa on December 29, 2009, at 13:27:52
In reply to Re: Adm. ? from Med Forum » Phillipa, posted by 2nd xylophone on December 29, 2009, at 13:23:45
The cliff the heads or the links. I confessed to bob via babblemail what I did. I was wrong. Phillipa
Posted by 2nd xylophone on December 29, 2009, at 13:46:14
In reply to Re: Adm. ? from Med Forum » 2nd xylophone, posted by Phillipa on December 29, 2009, at 13:27:52
> The cliff the heads or the links. I confessed to bob via babblemail what I did. I was wrong. Phillipa
We've all been wrong before and no doubt will be again. Don't sweat it. I think *I* could use two heads and don't do the cliff thing and links are fine just do a check of them first. :)
But mebbe don't believe me. I'm just a poster ;)
Posted by RocketMan on December 30, 2009, at 14:10:06
In reply to Re: Adm. ? from Med Forum, posted by Phillipa on December 29, 2009, at 13:20:27
> Yeah I'm an idiot that should sprout two heads and jump off a cliff. No more posting of links for me. Phillipa
Jan, it's been a rough couple of weeks in the posting department. I think it's the holiday season and all the stress it brings. I hope you had a Merry Christmas and please enjoy the New Year. Hey, let me know if you can sprout 2 heads, I could use an extra brain :-) Take care,
Rick
Posted by 2nd xylophone on December 31, 2009, at 17:55:59
In reply to Are These Meds For Real? Ad's????, posted by Phillipa on December 27, 2009, at 19:10:50
> Picked this up on another board and was surpised when clicking on stablon to see it's an SSE and that it virtually works the opposite way of SSRI's and is in moderate range of stimulating to sedating. Is this true? Phillipa
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Guideline
Please don't use this site to exchange information that could be used to import into the US:
prescription medication without a prescription or
medication that hasn't been approved by the US Food and Drug Administration.
Posted by willey on December 31, 2009, at 17:56:00
In reply to Re: Are These Meds For Real? Ad's???? » Phillipa, posted by 2nd xylophone on December 28, 2009, at 19:38:48
> > Picked this up on another board and was surpised when clicking on stablon to see it's an SSE and that it virtually works the opposite way of SSRI's and is in moderate range of stimulating to sedating. Is this true? Phillipa
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> Guideline
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> Please don't use this site to exchange information that could be used to import into the US:
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> prescription medication without a prescription or
> medication that hasn't been approved by the US Food and Drug Administration.The site listed and the import itself is legal,i am confused as to why this is forbidden.
If the site mentioned any drug that is scheldued in the u.s,a narcotic,a irreputable site then id totaly agree,but the site in question has been established for i know at least 2 decades and in time time transporting medication and supplemtns to the u.s legaly.
I dont understand why they must be fda approved.But a guideline is a guidline and they should regardless be followed,i ask this next question becuase id like to know who is who,are you a new official site moderator or just a concerned poster?
Posted by 2nd xylophone on December 31, 2009, at 17:56:00
In reply to Re: Are These Meds For Real? Ad's????, posted by willey on December 28, 2009, at 19:54:29
I'm concerned poster and poster a tired of what I see here in terms of following the guidelines. I have no problem with people discussing any meds here. The link goes passed discussing.
Per the guide line, if someone can give me evidence that this drug is FDA approved and a script can be written and filled in the US, I will gladly apologize.
The guideline is there, longstanding and agreed upon with registering. It applies to all posters -whether one posts frequently or infrequently.
Do you believe me to be incorrect?
Posted by highhatsize on December 31, 2009, at 17:56:00
In reply to Re: Are These Meds For Real? Ad's???? » willey, posted by 2nd xylophone on December 28, 2009, at 20:33:56
Here is the guideline from FAQs:
How can I get medication without a prescription?
Please don't use this site to exchange information that could be used to import into the US:
* prescription medication without a prescription or
* medication that hasn't been approved by the US Food and Drug Administration.Both activities appear to be illegal. It's fine to discuss here the pros and cons of the medications, just not how to obtain them in those ways. In fact, please don't use this site to facilitate any illegal activities.
I was unaware of it myself.
Posted by Phillipa on December 31, 2009, at 17:56:00
In reply to Re: Are These Meds For Real? Ad's???? » Phillipa, posted by 2nd xylophone on December 28, 2009, at 19:38:48
This med has been discussed before here see inaminate peanuts thread to previous discussion. Find it interesting the med. Who is importing it? I'm not for sure. Still on luvox and benzos forever it seems. And the bioidentical hormones got a docs script here and not fda approved how it that different? Where did importing come from? Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on December 31, 2009, at 17:56:00
In reply to Re: Are These Meds For Real? Ad's???? » 2nd xylophone, posted by Phillipa on December 28, 2009, at 21:17:04
How is it that the hormones that are compounded I have a prescription for from an antiaging ob-gyn doc here are not FDA approved. I pay out of pocket as insurance doesn't cover. Cream contains, estrogen, progesterone, and testosterone. Not biest or triest. Comes in syringe I measure the doc's prescribed doseage based on my hormone lab testing? Phillipa.
http://www.health.harvard.edu/newsweek/What-are-bioidentical-hormones.htm
Posted by willey on December 31, 2009, at 17:56:00
In reply to Re: Are These Meds For Real? Ad's???? » willey, posted by 2nd xylophone on December 28, 2009, at 20:33:56
> I'm concerned poster and poster a tired of what I see here in terms of following the guidelines. I have no problem with people discussing any meds here. The link goes passed discussing.
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> Per the guide line, if someone can give me evidence that this drug is FDA approved and a script can be written and filled in the US, I will gladly apologize.
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> The guideline is there, longstanding and agreed upon with registering. It applies to all posters -whether one posts frequently or infrequently.
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> Do you believe me to be incorrect?What i believe doesent really matter,if i belived that ignoring medications that can save your life simply becuase they arent FDA approved is a sad thing,or that opening a door to a profoundly depressed person believing they exhausted all options and from that giving them something they were in dier need for,hope and options,
is of no importance,guidelines are stated and personaly i will follow them,i am sad it is this way,and prob sadder that babblers might not know there are other boards to visit where they can discuss these matters.So again in short,no guidelines have to relevance to right or wrong,it is something u agree to which i do.
P.S I never gave the site btw,just to state that.
Posted by 2nd xylophone on December 31, 2009, at 17:56:01
In reply to Re: Are These Meds For Real? Ad's????, posted by willey on December 29, 2009, at 1:08:56
I meant if you thought I was incorrect in my interpting the guideline. My concern has nothing to do with discussions of any hosts of drugs. It has to do with posting information for purchasing and obtaining.
Posted by 2nd xylophone on December 31, 2009, at 17:56:01
In reply to Re: Are These Meds For Real? Ad's???? » 2nd xylophone, posted by Phillipa on December 28, 2009, at 21:17:04
> This med has been discussed before here see inaminate peanuts thread to previous discussion.
Discussions are fine.
< And the bioidentical hormones got a docs script here and not fda approved how it that different?
Are you posting information here as to where to order them to have them imported directly to an individual?
My reason for posting the guideline is not about the philosophical fairness or unfairness of what the FDA approves. It is about giving information of how to obtain/purchase which is what the link contains. This is about the guidelines of THIS forum and nothing else.
Even frequently posting people can overstep a guideline from time to time. :0
Posted by willey on December 31, 2009, at 17:56:01
In reply to Re: Are These Meds For Real? Ad's???? » willey, posted by 2nd xylophone on December 29, 2009, at 2:56:07
Hmm well if you wanna know seemed to me that everyone seemed to be excitied about new options,the thread seemed to be very high spirited,with that personaly i would not want to be the one to enforce the rule at a time when such discussions are causing high spirits and intelligent posters are invovled who i believe have the ability to maintain safety responses to the discussion.Bascaily if i werent a moderator i personaly would not at all want to be a poster who finds a problem with a thread producing such a robust excitment.
So i agree of course guidelines should be followed,personaly i dont agree it is any of our responsability or duty to project these guidelines but instead that of moderators and dr bob.
No one will get blocked for not enforcing or reminding of these guidelines,to do so would be a personal choice as a poster to post it the same as any other post.
Posted by willey on December 31, 2009, at 17:56:01
In reply to Re: Are These Meds For Real? Ad's???? » Phillipa, posted by 2nd xylophone on December 29, 2009, at 3:04:18
You stated once the reminder,you now have the option to email dr bob,however to continue to enforce this when you are not a moderator but a poster i feel is a form of harrasment.
Whether or not a poster sticks to guidelines is not of your concern,all you can be as a post inclined to due is
a re state the policy,as u did
b email actual moderators who have ability to take action.
But to continue to post direct to posters about this is simply not validated to you as a fellow poster.
Posted by 2nd xylophone on December 31, 2009, at 17:56:01
In reply to Re: Are These Meds For Real? Ad's????, posted by willey on December 29, 2009, at 3:20:08
Further discussions on this matter between you and I can only lead to more discord. I wish you well.
Posted by Phillipa on December 31, 2009, at 17:56:02
In reply to Re: Are These Meds For Real? Ad's???? » willey, posted by 2nd xylophone on December 29, 2009, at 4:16:49
Is there purchasing info? I didn't see this when found the article is so I guess it wasn't a good article to post. I just read the info on the med and it seemed like a good one for those prone to either fatigue or agitation on one. I tend to focus on on the info. Will look later for purchasing???? Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on December 31, 2009, at 17:56:02
In reply to Re: Are These Meds For Real? Ad's???? » 2nd xylophone, posted by Phillipa on December 29, 2009, at 10:35:28
Heard from a friend of mine in Europe took the med and said caused anxiety so guess not a good med for that as I thought might be from the article. Back to the drawing board so to speak. Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on December 31, 2009, at 17:56:02
In reply to Re: Are These Meds For Real? Ad's???? » willey, posted by 2nd xylophone on December 29, 2009, at 4:16:49
Yes your're right I clicked around and found it is a source for buying antiaging formulations. I didn't research before posting. So your're right. Good catch on your part thanks. Phillipa so not a good site my bad:(
Posted by 2nd xylophone on December 31, 2009, at 17:56:02
In reply to Re: I saw it » 2nd xylophone, posted by Phillipa on December 29, 2009, at 12:20:35
Despite how it has been preceived, I was trying to be helpful - not harrassing or mean or busybodying or over-stepping or whatever others may have seen. The forums have largely become self-regulated. We have been encouraged to be helpful in TOS areas and this particular point may be something we all need to be mindful of when posting links. I felt misunderstood. It was never my intention to discourage or halt the discussion.
I appreciate your acknowledgement and your previous post. I really do.
Posted by Phillipa on December 31, 2009, at 17:56:02
In reply to Re: I saw it » Phillipa, posted by 2nd xylophone on December 29, 2009, at 13:21:49
Thanks I truly mean that. I also wrote to bob and confessed. Phillipa
Posted by 2nd xylophone on December 31, 2009, at 17:56:03
In reply to Re: I saw it » 2nd xylophone, posted by Phillipa on December 29, 2009, at 13:26:29
Don't sweat it or dwell or get torn up about it. I've done things against the TOS too - many places. Sh*t happens. :)
Posted by Nadezda on December 31, 2009, at 17:56:03
In reply to Re: I saw it » Phillipa, posted by 2nd xylophone on December 29, 2009, at 13:21:49
When it goes beyond posting the guidelines, and letting it go, it does hijack the thread.
For example, maybe there's a reason it's not prescribed in the US-- which none of us knows, so far. There's lots to know about meds that we aren't familiar with and a further discussion would have been worthwhile.
If it's a big problem, why not privately bmail the person who posted the link? or bmail Bob or a deputy? Once the link has been posted, there's nothing any of us can do, anyway.
The problem is: there was a discussion of the med, not the legitimacy of the website, before this intervention. And that discussion, unfortunately, has stopped.
Nadezda
Posted by highhatsize on December 31, 2009, at 17:56:03
In reply to Re: I saw it, posted by Nadezda on December 29, 2009, at 14:29:44
I should know by now that discussion boards cannot suggest any illegality because of liability issues for the website owner. Nevertheless, I seem to forget it once a year or so.
I don't think anyone on this thread needs to feel the burden to apologize to anyone. All the posts were motivated by compassion.
As for posting illegal suggestions, I have to remind myself that this behavior can cause a website to close. There are several that I know of which have done so because of the fear of legal actions and the website owner's inability or disinterest in moderating the site.
I'd hate to have that happen to this site which has the most knowledgeable posters about mood disorders & their meds of any that I have seen.
Having said that, I reiterate that no one here need feel guilt about anything. Better to be compassionate & stupid than insensitive & smart.
- High
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