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Posted by 10derHeart on December 23, 2009, at 5:30:56
In reply to Re: How » 10derHeart, posted by floatingbridge on December 22, 2009, at 12:23:02
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 23, 2009, at 5:32:14
In reply to Re: How » 10derHeart, posted by johnj1 on December 22, 2009, at 17:37:46
> I think you know there is a problem but refuse to confront it.
>
> Thanks for missing the pointWould anyone like to try to show john how he might interpret things more charitably, encourage him to apologize, or suggest he not address those he can't get along with? You may have the power to help him avoid being blocked again.
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> We should be allowed to say what we want. If we do things that irritate other posters they should be allowed to express it without Dr. Bob's threats of blocking them. We are shackled in this regard.
It's true that freedom of speech is limited here:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
I can see how that could be experienced as being shackled, but the idea here is mutual support, not mutual irritation.
Bob
Posted by Maxime on December 23, 2009, at 14:21:27
In reply to Re: How » Phillipa, posted by Dr. Bob on December 21, 2009, at 19:24:15
> > I have a babblemail where a poster sent the police to my old address in a different part of the state? Person stated the info was given to her by a deputy. This is something I could have reported but didn't.
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> Did they have a reason to be worried about you? If you'd like me to look into it, I'd be glad to. I think the deputies have been great, but no one's perfect. Thanks,
>
> BobThat was me who did that. Phillipa was threatening to take an OD of Serzone. I spent all night talking to the polica and trying to track her down. This was some time ago. Phillipa I am sorry if you thought it was wrong of me to do this, but I was really worried that you were going to OD. Although we may have had our differences, I certainly don't want anything bad to happen to you. At that time I didn't know about the report button that you could use and I also felt time was of the essence because you said you were going to OD.
Posted by BayLeaf on December 23, 2009, at 18:48:52
In reply to Re: How, posted by Maxime on December 23, 2009, at 14:21:27
TY for shedding light on the other side of the story. Sure makes a lot more sense now!
bay
Posted by Maxime on December 23, 2009, at 21:03:24
In reply to Re: How, posted by Phillipa on December 21, 2009, at 13:06:07
> Last time I will remark on this thread but for two years I have a babblemail where a poster sent the police to my old address in a different part of the state? Person stated the info was given to her by a deputy. This is something I could have reported but didn't. And no I won't sent or post copies. Who knows what troubles the person might have been going through at the time? Phillipa
My troubles at the time were YOU. You said you were going to OD on Serzone. I was racing around in my part of the world trying to save yours. Do you think I just decided I would track you down and call the police for no reason. You can't threaten to actively again in suicidal behaviours and not expect someone to react. I guess you just wanted the attention at the time, I don't know. But I would never post on a group that I was going to OD (although I would post that I was thinking about it). I remember feeling so powerless at that time wondering if you had taken enough Serzone to kill you. Most people would be grateful that someone went out of their way to help you, but think you should have reported it???????? By all means, report it.
Posted by Maxime on December 23, 2009, at 21:14:32
In reply to Re: How » Phillipa, posted by Maxime on December 23, 2009, at 21:03:24
Here's the thread
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20071225/msgs/803497.html
Posted by johnj1 on December 23, 2009, at 21:41:44
In reply to Re: How » Phillipa, posted by Maxime on December 23, 2009, at 21:03:24
I am sorry this happened. I would explain what I think is going on but I can't because I will get blocked. I probably shouldn't care about that but one does hate to be singled out for stating an opinion.
Anyway if you see how this thread started you will have your answer.
I hope all of this did not upset you too much. Have a Merry Christmas.
Posted by polarbear206 on December 23, 2009, at 23:31:44
In reply to Re: How, posted by johnj1 on December 23, 2009, at 21:41:44
> I am sorry this happened. I would explain what I think is going on but I can't because I will get blocked. I probably shouldn't care about that but one does hate to be singled out for stating an opinion.
>
> Anyway if you see how this thread started you will have your answer.
>
> I hope all of this did not upset you too much. Have a Merry Christmas.
Ditto from me too. :)
Posted by BayLeaf on December 24, 2009, at 7:29:21
In reply to Re: How, posted by Maxime on December 23, 2009, at 21:14:32
You ARE a jewel! You showed such caring for reaching out like that!
I'm so sorry I misunderstood the story earlier. I should not have jumped to conclusions w/o having both sides of the story.
Bay
Posted by BayLeaf on December 24, 2009, at 7:40:52
In reply to Re: How - your response » BayLeaf, posted by Phillipa on December 22, 2009, at 22:06:50
I'm sorry to see what a bad time you were going through 2 years ago. Feeling that low is horrible. I imagine having that brought up now might be upsetting.
And feeling lonely, hurt or sad this time of year really sucks. No one should feel that way. I think this thread may feel very ostracizing for you. That's not supposed to be the purpose of a mental health site. Nope, you aren't perfect, but none of us are. I'm sure ain't. That's why we are here. I know that I need to work on improving and strengthing myself...so,
I'm remembering the the season, the reason this place exists, the reason we all came here, and doing some deep breathing.
I'm doing my best to work on forgiveness and acceptance in 2010. I think I'll start now.
Namaste
Bay
Posted by Dinah on December 24, 2009, at 9:15:34
In reply to To Phillipa and all, posted by BayLeaf on December 24, 2009, at 7:40:52
That was lovely, Bayleaf.
I think that's something I should also wish for myself in 2010.
Posted by Phillipa on December 24, 2009, at 12:26:19
In reply to To Phillipa and all, posted by BayLeaf on December 24, 2009, at 7:40:52
Bay I thought this the best place to also jump in again. Yes it's true was going through bad times and yes this hurts I'd be lieing or denying if I didn't tell the truth. Now Maxime after you posted that thread I throughly read it and see how supportive you were of me. I feel I block bad things in the past. I did this in the incident. I then looked back in our correspondences and tend to forget a lot hence find it helpful to be able to refer back refreshes my mind. I'm so sorry you were up all night trying to find and help me. I also saw that the babblemail I mentioned about the deputy was an e-mail so doesn't count. And you looked back in telephone directories to try and find me. You know no one ever has cared enough to do that for me family included and I can only profusely apolgize. I see how we too sometimes argued and made up privately. Thanks. I could also mention others here that we argue in private and then make up the same way. What can I do but publically apologize to all. I do apologize can you all forgive me? As I care for you all and this site means a lot to me as it does also to others. Yes I also post a lot. I guess it's part of my anxiety and some Ocd. And fears. But you all are wonderful people. We all have problems. Can we start over? Please? I forgive all even if you don't like me. I understand we sometimes need to vent and that I make a lot of mistakes use poor judgement. Thanks all your're truly wonderful people. Love Jan/Phillipa
Posted by Maxime on December 24, 2009, at 12:50:26
In reply to Re: To Phillipa and all » BayLeaf, posted by Phillipa on December 24, 2009, at 12:26:19
I'm sorry I got upset with you in this thread. You were in a bad place two years ago and I did care about your well being. I would do the same thing for you now if it happened again. Luckily I don't think you are in that dark place that we both know so well.
It's in the past. Let's leave it there.
Happy Christmas to you Phillipa. I hope you have a healthy 2010.
Hugs,
Maxime
Posted by RocketMan on December 24, 2009, at 13:09:35
In reply to Re: To Phillipa and all » BayLeaf, posted by Phillipa on December 24, 2009, at 12:26:19
Hi Phillipa,
As originator of this thread, I wish to express my appreciation for your apology. I do understand that may of us may at one time or another, post something others may find inappropriate, I know I have. Like you mentioned, our illness is why we are all here and sometimes it gets the better of us.
In no way did I expect this thread to develop into a mud-slinging affair. I believe you are sincere in your apology and hope we can continue to share our experiences.
Please have a wonderful Christmas with your family and all the best in the New Year.Regards, Rocket (Rick)
Posted by johnj1 on December 24, 2009, at 13:14:23
In reply to Re: To Phillipa and all » BayLeaf, posted by Phillipa on December 24, 2009, at 12:26:19
Phillipa:
"Forgiveness is Immediate, Trust is a Progression."
We can never take back or start over IMHO. Our past is part of why we are where we are at. We have to move on. We cannot send inappropriate babblemail without repercussions or over post without upsetting people. You say you argue with people via babblemail. Why? I am not sure how that helps your situation.
You say you need to change your behavior and you say you post because of anxiety and ocd. Has this site improved those symptoms, maintained them or made them worse?
It is up to you, only you, to break those habits. I know you want to pretend this never happened and want it to go away but it is all part of the archives now.
This is the last time I will post to you so take it what it is worth. Please don't babblemail me as I will not respond. I don't believe this post is uncivil but if Dr. Bob deems it such, so be it. I can live with what I do and say.
Posted by johnj1 on December 24, 2009, at 13:16:59
In reply to Re: To Phillipa and all » BayLeaf, posted by Phillipa on December 24, 2009, at 12:26:19
Ooops, I forgot the most important thing.
Merry Christmas and a Happy Healthy 2010.
Goodbye.
Posted by Phillipa on December 24, 2009, at 13:31:14
In reply to Re: To Phillipa and all » Phillipa, posted by johnj1 on December 24, 2009, at 13:16:59
If I forgive you Dr Bob also will. I'm not angry at you. Complex with e-mails and babblemails but those involved understand. Happy Holidays to you also. Feel Well okay? Love Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on December 24, 2009, at 13:33:41
In reply to Re: To Phillipa and all » Phillipa, posted by Maxime on December 24, 2009, at 12:50:26
Maxie it's okay forgive And I care heaps for you and happy your're feeling so well. Love And Merry Christmas also to you. I think this whole thread Peace And Good Will to All Love Jan/ Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on December 24, 2009, at 13:37:06
In reply to Phillipa, posted by RocketMan on December 24, 2009, at 13:09:35
Rick I know you didn't. Hoping your're feeling better also. And spend time with your family. Happy Holidays to you also. Peace and Good Will To All. From the bottom of my heart!!!!! I love all you guys!!!!!!! Love Jan/Phillipa
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 24, 2009, at 21:56:37
In reply to Re: To Phillipa and all » Phillipa, posted by johnj1 on December 24, 2009, at 13:14:23
> I know you want to pretend this never happened
Please don't jump to conclusions about others or post anything that could lead them to feel accused or put down.
But please don't take this personally, either, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person, and I'm sorry if this hurts you.
I do hope that you choose to remain a member of this community and that this community helps you, if needed, to avoid future blocks.
Phillipa, I'm also sorry if you felt hurt.
More information about posting policies and tips on alternative ways to express yourself, including a link to a nice post by Dinah on I-statements, are in the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#enforceFollow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above post, should of course themselves be civil.
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by manic666 on December 25, 2009, at 11:15:21
In reply to Re: Phillipa » polarbear206, posted by johnj1 on December 21, 2009, at 12:38:51
after the lenth of this thread. an the things said, i find it wrong to block anyone
Posted by emilyp on December 25, 2009, at 11:23:28
In reply to Re: To Phillipa and all » johnj1, posted by Phillipa on December 24, 2009, at 13:31:14
While I have not been involved in this post much at all, as I read it, I had the same exact feeling that johnj1 did. Forgiveness is important. But considering all the comments and situations that were discussed, it does not appear to be a one time incident. So while an apology is the first step, understanding why one acts this way is more important.
I say this not to be mean. But I have had behaviors that are not constructive and at times hurtful. People don't appreciate them and ultimately you lose them. If you don't change, then you will wind up losing many people in your life.
Posted by floatingbridge on December 25, 2009, at 12:52:49
In reply to dr bob, posted by manic666 on December 25, 2009, at 11:15:21
> after the lenth of this thread. an the things said, i find it wrong to block anyone
I do agree w/ maniac. As Phillipa said, can we start over?
Posted by Gabbette on December 25, 2009, at 17:07:24
In reply to Re: How » Maxime, posted by BayLeaf on December 24, 2009, at 7:29:21
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> I'm so sorry I misunderstood the story earlier. I should not have jumped to conclusions w/o having both sides of the story.
> BayIt's extremely important to wait before you post
it takes some self control but what doesn't?
Don't worry, you'll get there.
I pride myself on never having to eat my words.Now, if you're thinking "I can't believe *she* of all people said that!"
It's just the reaction I wanted.And my way of saying hello.
You better know I was oozing sarcasm,
or I'm going to have to choke on this post too.
Posted by BayLeaf on December 25, 2009, at 18:18:45
In reply to Re: How » BayLeaf, posted by Gabbette on December 25, 2009, at 17:07:24
Hey Gabbage. What are you doing slumming around here? Get lost on your way to a fancy high heel party? All dressed to the nines is something sparkly I'll bet. Red lipstick fer sure, trailing sequins and feather bits behind you...
Huggles
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