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Posted by polarbear206 on December 20, 2009, at 14:29:44
In reply to Re: Phillipa » Maxime, posted by Phillipa on December 19, 2009, at 23:52:48
I think Phillipa has an obsession and addiction to posting on babble. I just don't understand how someone can post over 100 times in a couple of days, and that's just on the MED board and not including the other boards. Something is very wrong here. She should be talking more with a therapist and getting help for her problems. Call me mean, but that's the way I see it.
Posted by Angela2 on December 20, 2009, at 16:24:58
In reply to Re: Phillipa, posted by polarbear206 on December 20, 2009, at 14:29:44
Although I see the complete validity in the other posters' concerns and upset about some things that went on between them and Phillipa, I think what you said was uncalled for polarbear. So what if she posts 100 times a day? This isn't a free for all.
Posted by floatingbridge on December 21, 2009, at 2:43:15
In reply to Re: Phillipa » polarbear206, posted by Angela2 on December 20, 2009, at 16:24:58
> This isn't a free for all.
I agree--this isn't a time or place for general expression of antipathy for Phillipa. Everyone has personal likes and dislikes, favorite friends, etc.
Stick to the issue at hand. Personal privacy and the violation of trust. As I recall Polarbear, you've raised this opinion before in another unrelated post sometime ago. My advice--let your subjective judgment go--it's irrelevant to the discussion.
two cents
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Posted by floatingbridge on December 21, 2009, at 6:27:30
In reply to free for all » Angela2, posted by floatingbridge on December 21, 2009, at 2:43:15
The most uncomfortable breech of trust for me was receiving sexually suggestive babblemail mail from a community member whom I refrain from naming.
I count Phillipa a friend, as I do many others here. I, too recived an email w/ third party info about which I felt uncomfortable. I should have told her at the time. However, during the process of inform sharing in this thread, remember that there is a real person involved, one who
is not the only one to break protocol. Be kind.fb
Posted by johnj1 on December 21, 2009, at 12:38:51
In reply to Re: Phillipa, posted by polarbear206 on December 20, 2009, at 14:29:44
I agree with you. This place can exacerbate an illness if it is let go and that is exactly what is happening and then it spills over into private babblemail and unacceptable behavior. That behavior and it being allowed has driven many people away. Babble isn't what it used to be because some people have taken over and made it their personal board without regard for others.
Posted by Phillipa on December 21, 2009, at 13:06:07
In reply to furthermore, posted by floatingbridge on December 21, 2009, at 6:27:30
Last time I will remark on this thread but for two years I have a babblemail where a poster sent the police to my old address in a different part of the state? Person stated the info was given to her by a deputy. This is something I could have reported but didn't. And no I won't sent or post copies. Who knows what troubles the person might have been going through at the time? Phillipa
Posted by polarbear206 on December 21, 2009, at 15:16:24
In reply to Re: Phillipa » polarbear206, posted by johnj1 on December 21, 2009, at 12:38:51
> I agree with you. This place can exacerbate an illness if it is let go and that is exactly what is happening and then it spills over into private babblemail and unacceptable behavior. That behavior and it being allowed has driven many people away. Babble isn't what it used to be because some people have taken over and made it their personal board without regard for others.
This is exactly what I was thinking of John. Thanks.
Posted by floatingbridge on December 21, 2009, at 18:12:33
In reply to Re: Phillipa..Johnj1, posted by polarbear206 on December 21, 2009, at 15:16:24
One person responsible for diminishing posts at babble? Armchair diagnosis of another member (in a public forum no less)? Absurdity and acrimony. Irrelevant as well, in addition to hurtful to Phillipa and generally unproductive
Despite whatever qualifications may entitle you to pass judgment on others, I feel your backslapping session is
best confined to babblemail or personal correspondence.Sincerely,
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Posted by Dr. Bob on December 21, 2009, at 19:17:14
In reply to Re: Phillipa » polarbear206, posted by johnj1 on December 21, 2009, at 12:38:51
> I think Phillipa has an obsession and addiction to posting on babble.
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> polarbear206> some people have taken over and made it their personal board without regard for others.
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> johnj1Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.
But please don't take this personally, either, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're bad people, and I'm sorry if this hurts you.
Phillipa, I'm also sorry if you felt hurt, too.
Angela and fb, thanks for trying to help.
More information about posting policies and tips on alternative ways to express yourself, including a link to a nice post by Dinah on I-statements, are in the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#enforceFollow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above posts, should of course themselves be civil.
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 21, 2009, at 19:24:15
In reply to Re: How, posted by Phillipa on December 21, 2009, at 13:06:07
> I have a babblemail where a poster sent the police to my old address in a different part of the state? Person stated the info was given to her by a deputy. This is something I could have reported but didn't.
Did they have a reason to be worried about you? If you'd like me to look into it, I'd be glad to. I think the deputies have been great, but no one's perfect. Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Dinah on December 21, 2009, at 19:48:57
In reply to Re: How » Phillipa, posted by Dr. Bob on December 21, 2009, at 19:24:15
As you know, deputies don't have information about people's locations, emails, names, etc., Dr. Bob. Or even the information you use. I just wanted to clear that up so no one worried. That is not information a deputy would have.
Posted by johnj1 on December 21, 2009, at 20:38:48
In reply to for crying out loud: polarbear + john, posted by floatingbridge on December 21, 2009, at 18:12:33
"One person responsible for diminishing posts at babble?"
Yes, I believe so but you can disagree that is fine.
"Armchair diagnosis of another member (in a public forum no less)? Absurdity and acrimony."
Ahh, but is this not what most do here? Playing doctor and dispensing medication advice based on ONE post? That is what seems absurd to me and dangerous.
"Irrelevant as well, in addition to hurtful to Phillipa and generally unproductive."
I don't think worrying about lines being crossed is unproductive.
Posted by johnj1 on December 21, 2009, at 20:40:40
In reply to Re: How » Dr. Bob, posted by Dinah on December 21, 2009, at 19:48:57
Are you saying what Phillipa posted cannot possibly be true?
Posted by Dinah on December 21, 2009, at 20:44:16
In reply to Re: How » Dinah, posted by johnj1 on December 21, 2009, at 20:40:40
I'm not saying anything at all about any particular incident. I have no idea what was meant by any particular comment.
But I wanted to assure people in general that deputies have no special ability to discover identifying information.
Posted by johnj1 on December 21, 2009, at 20:48:22
In reply to Re: please be civil » polarbear206 » johnj1, posted by Dr. Bob on December 21, 2009, at 19:17:14
Dr. Bob:
I don't mean to be uncivil. It seems there is a pattern going on here that is very dangerous to the board. Frankly, it scares me that you seem to believe people sending strange babblemails is not unacceptable. As you know, this is not the first time this has happened. I believe strong statements should be made so people believe they have recourse if babblemail crosses the line.
This actually happened with me when I had a disagrement with Phillipa. Someone I thought I could trust had given out my private email and I was harassed for "picking" on her. I even alerted a deputy (which I found out was her friend) and nothing was done. It seems to me that some are protected and others are not. That is not fair.
Maybe it is just time I pack it up here. I am sorry for posting what I feel and I am sorry you find it uncivil.
Posted by johnj1 on December 21, 2009, at 20:50:06
In reply to Re: How » johnj1, posted by Dinah on December 21, 2009, at 20:44:16
But you are saying that Phillipa stating a deputy gave out her information is false are you not?
Posted by Phillipa on December 21, 2009, at 21:29:12
In reply to Re: please be civil » Dr. Bob, posted by johnj1 on December 21, 2009, at 20:48:22
I have no idea who you unless you changed your name a long time ago. Let this thread die. P
Posted by Dinah on December 21, 2009, at 21:31:04
In reply to Re: How » Dinah, posted by johnj1 on December 21, 2009, at 20:50:06
I made a general statement about the access deputies have for private information.
How could I comment on the particulars of any situation?
Also Phillipa didn't say a deputy did that. She said she was told something along those lines. I have no idea who said what to whom. I don't want to know. Therefore, I'm not commenting on particulars.
I made a general statement.
Posted by johnj1 on December 22, 2009, at 10:06:44
In reply to Re: How » johnj1, posted by Dinah on December 21, 2009, at 21:31:04
Actually she did say a deputy gave out private information. But since you are saying this is not possible I find this interesting to say the least.
"I have a babblemail where a poster sent the police to my old address in a different part of the state? Person stated the info was given to her by a deputy"
Posted by 10derHeart on December 22, 2009, at 10:40:45
In reply to Re: How, posted by johnj1 on December 22, 2009, at 10:06:44
Right johnj, as Dinah was saying, Phillipa said the *****other***** **person** or **poster** STATED the info was given to her by a deputy....
Do you see the difference??
We do not know. People state a LOT of interesting things at varying levels of accuracy, either on purpose, or through poor memory.
WE simply do not know.
We do not know if this other person was mistaken, was telling an untruth, or something else entirely.
We do not know if Phillipa is misremembering.
We do not know if this other **person** or **poster** thought the third party (if such a party existed) was a deputy and they were not. We do not even know if someone stated to someone they *were* a deputy when they were not.
There are also many and simple ways to find out a person's address through sleuthing on the internet, without ANYONE at PB providing any information.
We do not know what transpired at all.
I can also tell you, however, as a former deputy, we had ZERO access to that information as Dinah said. Zero. Nip. Nada. Impossible. So, someone along the line was mistaken or inaccurate about that one portion.
As for this whole topic, I classify it as gossip and am uncomfortable I even chose to participate to this tiny degree. Gossip is.....insidious in its ability to grow and do harm, and I don't think anyone here wants that.
Posted by floatingbridge on December 22, 2009, at 12:23:02
In reply to Re: How » johnj1, posted by 10derHeart on December 22, 2009, at 10:40:45
> As for this whole topic, I classify it as gossip and am uncomfortable I even chose to participate to this tiny degree. Gossip is.....insidious in its ability to grow and do harm, and I don't think anyone here wants that.
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10derheart,You're right. Thank you for speaking despite your discomfort. I needed that reminder.
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Posted by johnj1 on December 22, 2009, at 17:37:46
In reply to Re: How » johnj1, posted by 10derHeart on December 22, 2009, at 10:40:45
"As for this whole topic, I classify it as gossip and am uncomfortable I even chose to participate to this tiny degree. Gossip is.....insidious in its ability to grow and do harm, and I don't think anyone here wants that."
Let's all have no opinions and just keep the peace. That is not how we get better. I think you know there is a problem but refuse to confront it.
There are other things that are insidious to the board and others have expressed their concern but it is always ignored or they get the finger shaking "you are uncivil". So they stop trying or just leave.
Yes, this whole thread was made up gossip. Thanks for missing the point when other posters have come out and said they don't like what is going on and are frustrated. They are always shouted down.
We should be allowed to say what we want. If we do things that irritate other posters they should be allowed to express it without Dr. Bob's threats of blocking them. We are shackled in this regard. To me, this is more disruptive.
Posted by BayLeaf on December 22, 2009, at 17:41:09
In reply to Re: How, posted by Phillipa on December 21, 2009, at 13:06:07
"poster sent the police to my old address "
why in the world didn't you tell Bob about this??? I don't remember you even posting about it. I would have been screaming my blooming head off!
Posted by BayLeaf on December 22, 2009, at 21:13:03
In reply to Re: How, posted by Phillipa on December 21, 2009, at 13:06:07
I know you babble mailed your reply to my question, but I don't want to go that route.
If you are comfortable, how about just posting that reply? All the behind the scenes stuff just causes problems.
Bay
Posted by Phillipa on December 22, 2009, at 21:46:14
In reply to Re: How - your response » Phillipa, posted by BayLeaf on December 22, 2009, at 21:13:03
No problem said I didn't live there anymore but if did would have to the above. Been really angry. Phillipa
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