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Posted by Dr. Bob on March 30, 2005, at 22:44:41
In reply to Re: the system doesn't release old names » Dr. Bob, posted by Spoc on March 30, 2005, at 11:45:34
> I gather that it is indeed ok to hold and use two names, as long as an announcement of a switch is made on Admin in between use, under one of the names
I guess so, currently, at least.
> I also take it that when you say "change it back," you mean just through the Admin announcement
Right.
> if no exception was needed at all, why couldn't it be worked out that Phillipa and her husband could have separate names in use from the same computer?
That's two people, not one person, but are you suggesting that they could they just make an announcement each time?
> that would mean that people can have two names in use for any purpose, as long as they announce in between. So, that will be ok?
I guess so, currently, at least.
> that would mean the number of names one person can have isn't even limited to two
I guess so, currently, at least.
> Admin could also end up peppered with announcements of switching between names
I guess so, currently, at least.
Do you think there should be a rule (in general) against switching back and forth?
Bob
Posted by Spoc on March 31, 2005, at 0:43:07
In reply to Re: switching between names, posted by Dr. Bob on March 30, 2005, at 22:44:41
> > if no exception was needed at all, why couldn't it be worked out that Phillipa and her husband could have separate names in use from the same computer?
>
> That's two people, not one person, but are you suggesting that they could they just make an announcement each time?
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Yes; I had been wondering why, if two names being linked to the same computer has indeed always been a little-known "legal" possibility, it didn't come up when she/they were going to bat for being able to have their own names.
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> Do you think there should be a rule (in general) against switching back and forth?
>
> Bob
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It's probably hard for people to picture very many current Babblers abusing things somehow, but realistically it seems like over time, things could get hairy... When it becomes more known that there is this new loophole to play with.BUT, on the other hand, I guess anyone seen posting on Admin frequently to announce switches, even if not revealing both names at once, would in a way be "alerting" people to the possibility that he/she in fact has more than one identity going, so "buyer beware" in the future... But then again, not everyone reads Admin...
Would there be a system to reconcile whether people really *were* announcing the switch each time, or might that requirement in effect end up falling by the wayside or being spottily checked?
Myself, I do perfectly understand the anonymity objective though, it does seem like it would be nice for people to have a way to do that.
Posted by alexandra_k on March 31, 2005, at 2:49:20
In reply to Re: switching between names, posted by Dr. Bob on March 30, 2005, at 22:44:41
I'd feel safer if we couldn't do that.
Posted by alexandra_k on March 31, 2005, at 2:50:14
In reply to Re: switching between names, posted by alexandra_k on March 31, 2005, at 2:49:20
... all the time.
Though I can understand why someone might want to do that for a specific question.
Posted by alexandra_k on March 31, 2005, at 2:53:07
In reply to Re: switching between names, posted by Dr. Bob on March 30, 2005, at 22:44:41
PS.
If you don't know that the poster has two (or more) names that they alternate between then you wouldn't be able to block all the posters posting names to enforce a block.
If you do know this then you could block the both of them.
But you would need to know to be able to do this.
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 31, 2005, at 10:24:56
In reply to Re: switching between names, posted by alexandra_k on March 31, 2005, at 2:53:07
> I had been wondering why, if two names being linked to the same computer has indeed always been a little-known "legal" possibility, it didn't come up
I wouldn't say it's always been a possibility, we'd never discussed it before...
> Would there be a system to reconcile whether people really *were* announcing the switch each time, or might that requirement in effect end up falling by the wayside or being spottily checked?
>
> SpocThe checking system isn't automatic, so people do slip through -- as we've seen...
> you would need to know to be able to do this.
>
> alexandra_kThe checking system isn't perfect, but I think I probably would be able to find out...
Bob
Posted by Spoc on March 31, 2005, at 13:14:19
In reply to Re: switching between names, posted by Dr. Bob on March 31, 2005, at 10:24:56
> > I had been wondering why, if two names being linked to the same computer has indeed always been a little-known "legal" possibility, it didn't come up
>
> I wouldn't say it's always been a possibility, we'd never discussed it before...
But... I was being literal I guess, based on...>The rule just has to do with posting under different names *at the same time*. So even without an exception someone could change their name to ask a question and then change it back after that thread?
Posted by Atticus on March 31, 2005, at 16:09:10
In reply to Re: posting under a new (old) name, posted by Dr. Bob on March 28, 2005, at 3:13:10
Well, clearly, mate, under such apocalyptic circumstances, the world would end, right?
;) Atticus
Posted by Spoc on March 31, 2005, at 19:02:14
In reply to Re: posting under a new (old) name, posted by Atticus on March 31, 2005, at 16:09:10
> Well, clearly, mate, under such apocalyptic circumstances, the world would end, right?
> ;) AtticusHmmm, guess I qualify as a 'mate' here. Personally, I don't care either way, have no stake or anticipated stake in it at all. Just enjoy and am attracted to the philosophical, theoretical, and "what if" kinds of things in life. And am glad to add thoughts, for anyone who may be "invested" in a matter.
Posted by Jai Narayan on March 31, 2005, at 19:05:00
In reply to Re: posting under a new (old) name, posted by Atticus on March 31, 2005, at 16:09:10
welcome back dear traveler.
we have missed you way too much.
Ja*
Posted by alexandra_k on April 6, 2005, at 1:06:08
In reply to Re: posting under a new (old) name, posted by Atticus on March 31, 2005, at 16:09:10
I missed that post!
Hello!
Welcome back!
You are back, right???
Please come back to writing.
We have missed you.
Posted by sunny10 on April 6, 2005, at 14:37:44
In reply to Re: switching between names » Dr. Bob, posted by Spoc on March 31, 2005, at 13:14:19
we seem to be accepting and extending the idea of the rest of society that talking about our feelings or our health (or anything else) is "bad" and thus needs to be hidden, in my opinion. I thought the general consensus on the boards is that we who suffer from mental health issues are tired of being treated like pariahs and that we were here to avoid stigma like that.
If I didn't trust my fellow babblers to not criticize me in general, I wouldn't need a second name to write anything; I wouldn't be here at all... As I tend to disassociate myself a bit in times of stress and depression, getting a second name to have my questions answered would feel like a step in the wrong direction, FOR ME.
That's my opinion.
Posted by alexandra_k on April 6, 2005, at 14:47:18
In reply to Re: switching between names, posted by sunny10 on April 6, 2005, at 14:37:44
Yeah, Sunny - I feel the same way.
The times when Babble has helped me the most and when I have felt most liberated from shame and guilt is when I share something really personal where I am afraid what other posters will think of me.It has been other peoples non-judgemental responses at times like that that have been most helpful to me.
For me to switch to another posting name before doing that - well, I would miss out on that.
You have to take a risk sometimes in order for there to be something to be gained.
But that is just my personal experience and opinion.
I guess different people feel differently.
Posted by henrietta on April 6, 2005, at 20:02:00
In reply to Re: switching between names » sunny10, posted by alexandra_k on April 6, 2005, at 14:47:18
Alexandra: I just want to say I think you're brilliant. You have great insight, intellectually and emotionally. And you're great fun. So many of your responses are so right on,and they seem to go over so many heads. And you are always kind, never "gottcha". Keep it up! Keep up the questing, the vulneraability, the honesty. Don't ever lose faith in who you are.
Posted by alexandra_k on April 6, 2005, at 23:16:26
In reply to Re: switching between names » alexandra_k, posted by henrietta on April 6, 2005, at 20:02:00
Thanks Henrietta, thats very kind of you to say.
:-)
Nice to meet you
:-)
Posted by AuntieMel on April 7, 2005, at 8:41:24
In reply to Re: switching between names, posted by sunny10 on April 6, 2005, at 14:37:44
I agree with you in general sunshine, but ...
The nature of the beast a lot of us are fighting is the uncontrollable feeling that others are judging us.
So there may be the rare occasion that someone might need to talk about a deep, deep dark secret, without the fear of losing babble friends.
And maybe as they become comfortable that they won't be judged the fear might go away.
Posted by Susan47 on April 7, 2005, at 11:36:54
In reply to Re: posting under a new (old) name, posted by Atticus on March 31, 2005, at 16:09:10
Are you still here? I didn't know you were back, I didn't know. Are you talking to me? I missed you so much. Why aren't you on Writing? Don't you like Babble at all anymore? It's so so nice to see this, so nice.
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 8, 2005, at 2:54:28
In reply to Atticus, ATTICUS?, posted by Susan47 on April 7, 2005, at 11:36:54
> Are you still here?
Sorry to interrupt, but I'd like to redirect follow-ups not about administrative issues to Psycho-Babble Social. Here's a link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20050330/msgs/481532.html
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Susan47 on April 8, 2005, at 17:00:46
In reply to Redirect: Atticus, posted by Dr. Bob on April 8, 2005, at 2:54:28
Dr. B., you had to move it and make two of them????
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 9, 2005, at 11:17:43
In reply to Thanks, as if that weren't pathetic enough, posted by Susan47 on April 8, 2005, at 17:00:46
> Dr. B., you had to move it and make two of them????
Sorry, two of what?
Bob
Posted by Susan47 on April 15, 2005, at 15:19:37
In reply to Re: Thanks » Susan47, posted by Dr. Bob on April 9, 2005, at 11:17:43
See, now this is what drives me nuts about Dr. Bob. He asks these obtuse questions when really he should know exactly what I'm referring to. Two posts, right? I mean, is there anyone else besides DB who didn't get that? He does this frequently, IMO, acts obtuse when he doesn't want to answer. Therapists do the same thing. It makes you want to do something violent, you know? Like, hello Honesty, aren't you supposed to be a virtue worth projecting?
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 15, 2005, at 19:58:25
In reply to Re: Thanks, posted by Susan47 on April 15, 2005, at 15:19:37
> > > Dr. B., you had to move it and make two of them????
> >
> > Sorry, two of what?
>
> Two postsSorry, I made two posts? The original and the reposted one?
Bob
Posted by Susan47 on April 15, 2005, at 20:52:15
In reply to Re: Thanks, posted by Dr. Bob on April 15, 2005, at 19:58:25
Yes.
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 17, 2005, at 12:15:47
In reply to Re: Thanks, posted by Susan47 on April 15, 2005, at 20:52:15
> Yes.
Do you think I should've only left one copy? If so, on which board?
Bob
Posted by Dinah on April 17, 2005, at 13:55:42
In reply to Re: Thanks, posted by Dr. Bob on April 17, 2005, at 12:15:47
I hate to speak for others, but I think what people might be saying is that with a bit of judgement, you might be able to tell when a thread can be allowed to die a graceful death. Or to just give a please keep it administrative, letting people decide whether to revive it elsewhere.
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