Psycho-Babble Administration Thread 7296

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Babble search vs Google

Posted by ~~tabitha~~ on September 4, 2002, at 2:45:59

I can't seem to find posts using the babble search function. For instance, here's a post out of the PB 2000 archive.

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/2000/20020416/msgs/349.html

Shouldn't I be have been able to find this by putting "thong" into the search? Well it doesn't work.

However, babble posts seem to show up easily on Google. I found the above post by putting "psycho-babble phil thong" into Google and there it was.

I guess this is 2 questions...
1) why can't I seem to find posts using the babble search, and
2) how come obscure babble posts are so easy to find with Google? just seems odd.

 

Re: Babble search vs Google

Posted by Phil on September 4, 2002, at 6:20:23

In reply to Babble search vs Google, posted by ~~tabitha~~ on September 4, 2002, at 2:45:59

Probably because Google is a great, intuitive search engine.
Why that post?!

 

Re: Babble search

Posted by Dr. Bob on September 4, 2002, at 6:44:13

In reply to Babble search vs Google, posted by ~~tabitha~~ on September 4, 2002, at 2:45:59

> I can't seem to find posts using the babble search function. For instance, here's a post out of the PB 2000 archive.
>
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/2000/20020416/msgs/349.html
>
> Shouldn't I be have been able to find this by putting "thong" into the search?

Sorry, but only PB and PSB have been "indexed". I think I'll add PPB and PBF later (and stop indexing PSB now that it's more purely social), but I wasn't planning on including the "reunion" boards or PBBC (or PBA)...

Bob

 

Search engines » Dr. Bob

Posted by jane d on September 4, 2002, at 11:07:27

In reply to Re: Babble search, posted by Dr. Bob on September 4, 2002, at 6:44:13

> Sorry, but only PB and PSB have been "indexed". I think I'll add PPB and PBF later (and stop indexing PSB now that it's more purely social), but I wasn't planning on including the "reunion" boards or PBBC (or PBA)...

Bob,

I don't suppose there is a way to prevent Social (and 2000 and admin) from being picked up by the search engines, is there?

An ever paranoid Jane

 

Re: Babble search » Dr. Bob

Posted by ~~tabitha~~ on September 4, 2002, at 14:44:20

In reply to Re: Babble search, posted by Dr. Bob on September 4, 2002, at 6:44:13

Thanks for the reply. I guess that explains it. I assumed they were all indexed since Social posts show up in searches.

So... I guess you're reserving the search function for the more serious queries, ey? :-)

Personally I'd like to see all the boards indexed separately, so if for instance I start my search on PPB, it only searches PPB. Just my preference.

 

Re: Babble search vs Google » Phil

Posted by ~~tabitha~~ on September 4, 2002, at 14:51:07

In reply to Re: Babble search vs Google, posted by Phil on September 4, 2002, at 6:20:23

> Probably because Google is a great, intuitive search engine.
> Why that post?!

Well, well, Phil, I thought that might get you out of hiding ;-)

It came up in conversation. I was sure I has seen a post about Phil in thong, cowboy hat, and flip-flops. I thought it was one of your priceless hilarious posts. Turned out it was just a couple offhand comments by Greg and Shar. The old memory ain't what it used to be.

 

Re: Search engines

Posted by oracle on September 5, 2002, at 0:50:30

In reply to Search engines » Dr. Bob, posted by jane d on September 4, 2002, at 11:07:27

> Bob,
>
> I don't suppose there is a way to prevent Social (and 2000 and admin) from being picked up by the search engines, is there?
>
> An ever paranoid Jane

That would be impossible. Public internet places,
by their very nature, are indexed by the major engines. The only solution in to not post in public places ! Sorry.

 

Re: Search engines » Jane D and Oracle

Posted by Jonathan on September 5, 2002, at 20:56:07

In reply to Re: Search engines, posted by oracle on September 5, 2002, at 0:50:30

Jane D > I don't suppose there is a way to prevent Social (and 2000 and admin) from being picked up by the search engines, is there?

Oracle > That would be impossible ...

Actually, it *is* possible, at least for search engines that look for and respect a "robots.txt" file in the site's root directory - e.g. for this site, http://www.dr-bob.org/robots.txt , which doesn't (yet?) exist; I think most popular, reputable search-engines do this, including Google - http://www.google.com/webmasters/3.html#B3 .

Further details at http://www.robotstxt.org/wc/exclusion-admin.html .

Like you, Jane (and perhaps Phil?), I have a personal interest in this: one of my now regretted Social posts, from which I'm instantly recognisable by anyone who knows me in real life, is among the few hits that would be returned in the plausible event that any of my mathematician colleagues should search Google for "secaps.cirtem.laimonylop" (spelt backwards this time to confound those robot spiders!)

> An ever paranoid Jane

An even more paranoid Jonathan :)

 

^^Please read links in above - Thanks :) » Dr. Bob (nm)

Posted by Jonathan on September 5, 2002, at 20:59:18

In reply to Re: Search engines » Jane D and Oracle, posted by Jonathan on September 5, 2002, at 20:56:07

 

Re: Babble search

Posted by J. O'Nathan on September 5, 2002, at 21:17:34

In reply to Re: Babble search, posted by Dr. Bob on September 4, 2002, at 6:44:13

Tabitha > Shouldn't I be have been able to find this by putting "thong" into the search?

Dr. Bob > Sorry, but only PB and PSB have been "indexed". I think I'll add PPB and PBF later (and stop indexing PSB now that it's more purely social), but I wasn't planning on including the "reunion" boards or PBBC (or PBA)...

Are you implying that Tabitha's search is more frivolous, and therefore less deserving of your search engine's support, than one for, say, "down-regulation of somatic inhibitory alpha-2 noradrenoceptors on serotonergic neurons in the mesencephalic Raphe nuclei of the Sprague-Dawley rat"?

Surely the thong epitomizes this site's Mission to promote education, support and civility: it reveals as much as can be revealed while preserving a modicum of decency and providing essential support.

;)

Jonathan.

P.S. Sorry, Dinah - I know you're going to ask me to keep it administrative here, so I've started a thread on Social for follow-ups to this post:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20020829/msgs/29899.html

 

Re: Thanks for the redirect and the laugh. :) (nm) » J. O'Nathan

Posted by Dinah on September 6, 2002, at 8:10:22

In reply to Re: Babble search, posted by J. O'Nathan on September 5, 2002, at 21:17:34

 

Re: Search engines

Posted by Dr. Bob on September 8, 2002, at 21:03:18

In reply to Re: Search engines » Jane D and Oracle, posted by Jonathan on September 5, 2002, at 20:56:07

> Personally I'd like to see all the boards indexed separately, so if for instance I start my search on PPB, it only searches PPB.
>
> tabitha

You should be able to limit it to a particular (included) board manually with the "url" option, for example, "url:social". See:

http://www.dr-bob.org/cgi-bin/xv/search.pl

----

> > I don't suppose there is a way to prevent Social (and 2000 and admin) from being picked up by the search engines, is there?
>
> Actually, it *is* possible, at least for search engines that look for and respect a "robots.txt" file in the site's root directory
>
> Jonathan

Part of it is that it depends on search engines doing that, and they don't necessarily...

Bob


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