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Posted by rjlockhart37 on March 7, 2015, at 22:41:30
i went to the gym the other day, running on the treadmill cranking it to vary fast and then had slow it down, intervals, but i noticed during the work out my lungs where not taking full, and i had to breath faster.....
then after i was done my lungs felt kinda irritated, and i think it was from the intense breathing....but down to all of it, i drove home and said ... "i have to stop" you know i've smoked since i was 17, love smoking but i don't like the tobacco stink and my breath smells like sun flower seeds after too......i have to keep breath mints, mainly mint gum and cheap body spray to put on, it does cover it up, but having to do that routine, smoke, throw it out, get my body spray and put it all over me, and pop mint gum in....thats the only way i can cover up so people won't know i smoke......
but ... really, im 27 almost 28, i need to stop, if i excersise intensly with ciggerette, that is most unhealthy thing i have heard off.....it just hit me,. i have to stop, totally transfer over to the vape, vapor.....smoking is pleasant after a stressful situation, when im having disturbing thoughts, or getting out of a slump, but it's vary unhealthy.....
im not taking chantix....or wellbutrin, ill have to figure out a way to limit and eventually stop.....
Posted by Tomatheus on March 8, 2015, at 12:48:25
In reply to need stop smoking, posted by rjlockhart37 on March 7, 2015, at 22:41:30
Hi RJ,
Quitting smoking definitely sounds like something that you'd find to be beneficial. Even though it sounds like you've ruled out using varenicline (Chantix) or bupropion (Zyban/Wellbutrin), I do think that there are other choices that might allow you to successfully quit. As you mentioned, you could try transitioning over to vaporized nicotine, or perhaps you could try nicotine patches or gum. No matter what method you use to stop smoking cigarettes, I hope that you will succeed in your goal to stop smoking. Best of luck to you.
Tomatheus
Posted by baseball55 on March 8, 2015, at 19:49:50
In reply to need stop smoking, posted by rjlockhart37 on March 7, 2015, at 22:41:30
I promise you, the body spray does not cover up the smell. I can smell smokers several feet away. Smokers stink. They stink up their clothes, their cars, their rooms. And, you know, its bad, bad, bad for you. OK. You won't die of cancer or emphysema or COPD this year, but you will eventually. And, even if you quit several years from now, every year you smoke reduces your lifespan.
If destroying your lungs over time isn't sufficient incentive to quit, just consider that you stink, you are a social pariah, you are spending tons of money and enriching tobacco companies. And on and on.
I have students come to my office or talk after class and I can tell immediately when they are smokers. I harangue them. For whatever good it does.
If you feel the need for nicotine, then use e-cigs. With e-cigs, unlike with gum or patches, you get that immediate nicotine rush. You also get, if this is important to you, that hand-to-mouth behavior that is so strongly associated with the nicotine rush.
Stop. Do yourself this favor.
Posted by rjlockhart37 on March 9, 2015, at 1:30:57
In reply to Re: need stop smoking, posted by baseball55 on March 8, 2015, at 19:49:50
yea....i do use e-ciggs, thats what i was trying to say, i use vapor smoke, it's a large puff thing that has flavored nicotine, and it's not tobacco smoke.....tobacco is what causes the stink, the health problems, the low social status some people view smokers today as.....
i have my vape in my room.....usally when i smoke it' after something stressful.....or depression, and like i said, do away with tobacco and transfer to vape......i know very well after the gym that i had to breath harder than the othr people in there, thats when i realized this is a problem, damage.....
Posted by Lamdage22 on March 10, 2015, at 14:19:53
In reply to Re: need stop smoking, posted by baseball55 on March 8, 2015, at 19:49:50
You could switch to vaping...
Just buy a good one right away that gives you satisfaction with alot of vapor. 20mg/ml nicotine.
Its not as good as stopping but close.
Posted by Zyprexa on March 13, 2015, at 8:21:00
In reply to need stop smoking, posted by rjlockhart37 on March 7, 2015, at 22:41:30
I smoked since I was 16, I'm 38 now almost 39. What I've learned is you have to switch to vape or nicotine replacement, and just force your self to not smoke. I still give in once in a while and smoke a half a cig. But only 2 times a day.
The burning lungs when you run is because you are out of shape. After a while of working out every few times a week that won't happen. You still will get short of breath and have to slow down . It goes away when you quit smoking and exercise.
Honestly you might consider taking atleast a little wellbutrin sr, or generic. I realy helps. I've been taking it since 2003. Before all the NRTs and when I was still smoking almost a pack a day. Soon as I started taking it I cut my smoking in half. Not even trying to... I think it also helps make the vape and NRTs work better.
Switching to NRTs or vape is hardest in the beginning. But you just force your self to like them. And after a while it gets easyer. Just make sure you take a lot of nicotine. or it won't work.. You want to take atleast as much nicotine as you were getting from the cigs. One cig is 1-2mg nicotine, depending on how you smoke them. So half a pack to a pack a day. You will need about 20mg from patch or vape or other NRTs.
I made a slow switch over from cig to NRT/wellbutrin sr. First I cut smoking in half, first week on wellbtrin. then added nic gum and lozenges and cut down to 2-3 cigs. Now 1 cig and vape a ml of 24mg. Remind you all this took a number of years. I also take 200mg bupropion sr.
Don't be angry or disapointed if you quit and still smoke one every once and a while. I know, its hard. Just limit your self to a few as posible. I found that total abstinince was the hardest thing and never made it more than a few weeks. Then the giving up and starting again.
How much do you smoke now? How much vape?
BTW nic gum and lozenge will give you cavities, if you use them long term. I used lozenge for number of years and almost lost a tooth. cigs will give you periodontal disease, recesed gums, bone loss and inflamed gums, bleeding. I have not noticed any problems with vape.
Posted by baseball55 on March 13, 2015, at 20:57:11
In reply to Re: need stop smoking, posted by Zyprexa on March 13, 2015, at 8:21:00
> BTW nic gum and lozenge will give you cavities, if you use them long term. I used lozenge for number of years and almost lost a tooth.
This has not been my experience. The gum has no sugar. I have been using it for 18 years. Both my doctor and my dentist say - whatever. Nicotine itself is not harmful (no more than caffeine), the gum contains no sugar and is not harmful to the teeth. So who cares? At least I no longer smoke.
Posted by Zyprexa on March 14, 2015, at 9:36:24
In reply to Re: need stop smoking » Zyprexa, posted by baseball55 on March 13, 2015, at 20:57:11
Its the cemical they use to release the nicotine. Not sugar. I did reseach on it. A lot of people have the same problem. I got all the cavities right where I would park the lozenge. It ate a hole in my tooth below the gum line. I had surgery on the gums to get at the cavity.
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 14, 2015, at 10:33:44
In reply to Re: need stop smoking, posted by Zyprexa on March 14, 2015, at 9:36:24
If i can make a recommendation:
If you are not satisfied by the amount of vape that comes out of your E-Cig, thats no reason to smoke again.
Kangertech subtank with the 0.5 ohm head goes a long way. Its better than smoking.
I use it with a Pioneer4You - IPV MINI 30W Kit. And be sure to select the right accumulator or it will all blow up in your face.
I use Samsung INR18650-25R. The green ones.
I sold my old stuff on Facebook successfully.
Depending on your equipment, i first used about 30mg/ml nicotine and now with this powerful equipment, i am down to 20mg/ml.
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 15, 2015, at 9:33:10
In reply to Re: need stop smoking, posted by Lamdage22 on April 14, 2015, at 10:33:44
i mean the amount of vapor :)
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