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Posted by stickywicket on May 30, 2006, at 12:53:14
I found a doctor/student forum, and was interested to see what pdocs and psych med students discussed. Check out these two threads:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=283083
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=267496
Am I being overly sensitive or are these also offensive to you?
Posted by Phil on May 30, 2006, at 13:08:28
In reply to Is this disturbing to anyone else?, posted by stickywicket on May 30, 2006, at 12:53:14
stickywicket
Thanks for the link. I can't read it all right now but will when I get home. Looks interesting.
StigmaPhil
Posted by crazy teresa on May 30, 2006, at 13:17:12
In reply to Is this disturbing to anyone else?, posted by stickywicket on May 30, 2006, at 12:53:14
Disturbing in what sense?
I don't see much difference between their banter and ours...
Posted by ClearSkies on May 30, 2006, at 13:21:13
In reply to Is this disturbing to anyone else?, posted by stickywicket on May 30, 2006, at 12:53:14
I find it disturbing only in that the forum illustrates the misconceptions and distorted thinking that even the medical community can have about those of us with mental health issues. It's not just the media, it's not just our families, it goes throughout our society and at every level.
ClearSkies
Posted by stickywicket on May 30, 2006, at 15:22:39
In reply to Re: Is this disturbing to anyone else? » stickywicket, posted by crazy teresa on May 30, 2006, at 13:17:12
> Disturbing in what sense?
>
> I don't see much difference between their banter and ours...I'd like to think the group of professionals we seek for help doesn't poke fun at us with their cohorts. See ClearSkies response to which I totally agree.
Posted by Dinah on May 30, 2006, at 15:24:18
In reply to Is this disturbing to anyone else?, posted by stickywicket on May 30, 2006, at 12:53:14
I went into the forum and read, and I have to say I found the whole thing disturbing. I hope my therapist doesn't talk about his patients like that. I guess I don't care what my psychopharmacologist says, though.
And what exactly did he think the Effexor/Risperdal combo meant? Couldn't it just mean that Effexor is agitating, and Risperdal offsets some of those side effects? Why would he tell the friend to avoid the woman rather than tell him whether than wondering about the possibility that a less activating antidepressant might be a better choice for her.
Of course, I'm just a whiny client with too much time and money who likes to complain, and who would be booted out of their practices right away, which is kind of good because I assume it means that my mental health practitioners *don't* feel that way.
I wish I could introduce some of those people to my very empathetic and touchy feely *neurologist*.
Posted by stickywicket on May 30, 2006, at 15:25:59
In reply to Re: Is this disturbing to anyone else? » stickywicket, posted by ClearSkies on May 30, 2006, at 13:21:13
> I find it disturbing only in that the forum illustrates the misconceptions and distorted thinking that even the medical community can have about those of us with mental health issues. It's not just the media, it's not just our families, it goes throughout our society and at every level.
> ClearSkiesI'm glad I'm not the only one who felt that way after reading those threads. It made me so angry and sad at the same time.
I'm curious what others have to say.
Posted by B2chica on May 30, 2006, at 15:53:56
In reply to Re: Is this disturbing to anyone else? » stickywicket, posted by Dinah on May 30, 2006, at 15:24:18
>> And what exactly did he think the Effexor/Risperdal combo meant? Couldn't it just mean that Effexor is agitating, and Risperdal offsets some of those side effects? Why would he tell the friend to avoid the woman rather than tell him whether than wondering about the possibility that a less activating antidepressant might be a better choice for her.
i thought most of it was not surprising, but the post that dinah mentions above has got me quite worked up.
ok...here goes...
FIrst of all, the attitude of "get out of that" from a doctor just rejuvinate fear of Anyone with ANytype of MI. i mean if a doctor is saying run for the hills, then surley this is what 'we' all (society) must think...
SECONDLY...is this kid 16 or what? if she is a physician AND a true friend she should tell the kid what the drugs typically do and let that kid decide for HIMSELF to date or not.all that happened is he;s now gone away more ignorant and dateless.
THIRD...the bar girl obviously is a young woman who is activly seeking treatment and complying with doctors to treat symptoms...what's the problem again???
FOURTH...now...(here we go) why don't we just go down this WHOLE line and knock out Anyone that could cause problems since 'relationships ARE so difficult ANYWAY', let's see this does include anyone with anytype of SA, MI, disability-no wheelchairs here, lets' take out those with diabetes etc. (and the list the dentist made), and Certainly while we're at it lets cross out anyone of anyother ETHNIC BACKGROUND! because LORD knows why type of difficulty and interracial relationship could bring! (what is this 1942?)
...AFTERALL, relationships Are hard enough lets not make them tougher!!!!!!!!!!!! grrrrrrrrrrrr
(especially with those attitudes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
ok. rant done...thanks
b2c.
Posted by llrrrpp on May 30, 2006, at 16:12:00
In reply to Re: Is this disturbing to anyone else?, posted by B2chica on May 30, 2006, at 15:53:56
yeah, B2C. you tell 'em!
Life is hard enough without getting into a relationship with an inexperienced pre-doctor with a god-complex!
Posted by Phillipa on May 30, 2006, at 16:33:58
In reply to Re: Is this disturbing to anyone else? » B2chica, posted by llrrrpp on May 30, 2006, at 16:12:00
I haven't found one yet. Love Phillipa
Posted by Racer on May 30, 2006, at 17:15:35
In reply to Re: Is this disturbing to anyone else? » B2chica, posted by llrrrpp on May 30, 2006, at 16:12:00
>
> Life is hard enough without getting into a relationship with an inexperienced pre-doctor with a god-complex!I think I've got a new sig line for my emails!
Posted by Phil on May 30, 2006, at 18:30:26
In reply to Is this disturbing to anyone else?, posted by stickywicket on May 30, 2006, at 12:53:14
I won't be revisiting their forum. What the hell is the bipolar movement anyway?
I could go on but I won't."I read this article on msn or something. Was she actually dx with bp from a psychiatrist or is she just putting that name on her behavior? It really doesnt help the **bp movement** that much and I am hoping it was more a personality d/o or just 25 yo femal horniness for some young guy."
Posted by Poet on May 30, 2006, at 19:12:44
In reply to Is this disturbing to anyone else?, posted by stickywicket on May 30, 2006, at 12:53:14
Hi Stickywicket,
I'd like to know where these, I use the term loosely, future doctors attend medical school, so I can avoid their graduates in the future.
Poet
p.s. the most disturbing thing to me is one of them is called Poetry. And uses a bulldog for his/her icon. I'm not sure if what s/he writes is more insulting to poets or bulldogs, I suspect the former as God knows, poets are crazy.
Posted by Emily Elisabeth on May 30, 2006, at 19:16:12
In reply to Re: Is this disturbing to anyone else? » stickywicket, posted by Dinah on May 30, 2006, at 15:24:18
> I went into the forum and read, and I have to say I found the whole thing disturbing. I hope my therapist doesn't talk about his patients like that. I guess I don't care what my psychopharmacologist says, though.
Just remind yourself that it is (much) harder to get into a psych PhD program than into med school. It sure seems like there is no shortage of immature *sses getting through med school.(Okay, I'm super-biased, but I also need to soothe myself b/c a pdoc will make 3x as much $ as I will.)
>
> And what exactly did he think the Effexor/Risperdal combo meant?My guess is that his guess was borderline personality disorder. Of course, your suggestion for the reality of the situation is just as viable, but I don't think that was what he was thinking. Which of course shows what a *great* doc he is if he thinks that a certain combo could only mean one thing.
>
> I wish I could introduce some of those people to my very empathetic and touchy feely *neurologist*.I wish that I could introduce them to a swift kick in the *ss. ;)
Best,
EE
Posted by crazy teresa on May 30, 2006, at 20:43:38
In reply to Re: Is this disturbing to anyone else? » crazy teresa, posted by stickywicket on May 30, 2006, at 15:22:39
I'd like to think that too, but are these expectations realistic?
Posted by Dinah on May 30, 2006, at 20:43:52
In reply to Re: Is this disturbing to anyone else?, posted by Emily Elisabeth on May 30, 2006, at 19:16:12
Grin. Here's hoping they're young and will grow into their degrees. Or sleep deprived and giddy from those long hours of interns.
There was one guy there who seemed to be more the sort of pdoc I'd like to have.
Posted by stickywicket on May 31, 2006, at 8:00:43
In reply to Re: Is this disturbing to anyone else? » stickywicket, posted by crazy teresa on May 30, 2006, at 20:43:38
> I'd like to think that too, but are these expectations realistic?
Absolutely! Why go into psych if you'll probably make less $$ than a med doc if you're not going to truly care about the patients you treat?
Posted by stickywicket on May 31, 2006, at 8:06:31
In reply to Re: Is this disturbing to anyone else?, posted by B2chica on May 30, 2006, at 15:53:56
Posted by stickywicket on May 31, 2006, at 8:08:47
In reply to ROTFLUIWMP! » llrrrpp, posted by Racer on May 30, 2006, at 17:15:35
> >
> > Life is hard enough without getting into a relationship with an inexperienced pre-doctor with a god-complex!
>
> I think I've got a new sig line for my emails!ROTFLUIWMP??? Maybe I'm a dim bulb but I've got to know what that means.
Posted by stickywicket on May 31, 2006, at 8:12:50
In reply to Re: Is this disturbing to anyone else? » stickywicket, posted by Phil on May 30, 2006, at 18:30:26
> I won't be revisiting their forum. What the hell is the bipolar movement anyway?
> I could go on but I won't.
>
> "I read this article on msn or something. Was she actually dx with bp from a psychiatrist or is she just putting that name on her behavior? It really doesnt help the **bp movement** that much and I am hoping it was more a personality d/o or just 25 yo femal horniness for some young guy."
>"BP movement" Perhaps he's constipated and made a typo; he meant B movement)because quite obviously he's full of ****.
Posted by Larry Hoover on May 31, 2006, at 8:13:24
In reply to Re: Is this disturbing to anyone else?, posted by Emily Elisabeth on May 30, 2006, at 19:16:12
> > I went into the forum and read, and I have to say I found the whole thing disturbing. I hope my therapist doesn't talk about his patients like that. I guess I don't care what my psychopharmacologist says, though.
>
> Just remind yourself that it is (much) harder to get into a psych PhD program than into med school. It sure seems like there is no shortage of immature *sses getting through med school.(Okay, I'm super-biased, but I also need to soothe myself b/c a pdoc will make 3x as much $ as I will.)You need to be smart and wise to get into psych. Empathy is also a pre-requisite not held in the other program. Same goes with family name.
> I wish that I could introduce them to a swift kick in the *ss. ;)
>
> Best,
> EEThat would psych them out!
Lar
Posted by stickywicket on May 31, 2006, at 8:14:54
In reply to Re: Is this disturbing to anyone else? » Phil, posted by stickywicket on May 31, 2006, at 8:12:50
> "BP movement" Perhaps he's constipated and made a typo; he meant B movement)because quite obviously he's full of ****.I apologize for being uncivil. Obviously, I didn't think twice before posting.
Posted by llrrrpp on May 31, 2006, at 8:38:29
In reply to Re: ROTFLUIWMP! » Racer, posted by stickywicket on May 31, 2006, at 8:08:47
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