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Posted by anxious babe on June 6, 2004, at 16:19:56
In reply to all right kids, this is goodbye for awhile..., posted by Anakin on June 5, 2004, at 23:39:49
Best of luck to Anakin!!!
I hope you have a wonderful day filled with memories to cherish a whole lifetime through.
anxious babe
Posted by simus on June 6, 2004, at 23:01:00
In reply to RE:: Hey everyone-Simus, posted by Mrs. C on June 6, 2004, at 8:47:29
Mystic - how was your day today? I miss hearing from you.
Simus
Posted by anxious babe on June 7, 2004, at 9:56:40
In reply to Mystic, posted by simus on June 6, 2004, at 23:01:00
Hey where are all the yo-yo's? I miss you guys...the boards are way too quiet.
I hope this is a sign that everyone is feeling better with the summer approaching.
Love to all,
anxious babe
Posted by bride2be on June 7, 2004, at 19:01:11
In reply to all right kids, this is goodbye for awhile..., posted by Anakin on June 5, 2004, at 23:39:49
i am so excited for you! good luck with everything. i know it will be a perfect day. i cant wait to hear all about it! we love you!
Posted by bride2be on June 7, 2004, at 19:03:33
In reply to RE:: Hey everyone-Simus » Mrs. C, posted by simus on June 5, 2004, at 23:34:13
please write to me and let me know how you are doing? i have not been here in a while but i have read the past posts. you are such a strong person. you have helped me sooooooooo much and i cant stand not having notes to read from you. i hope you get to feeling better. let me know if you need anything at all! i miss you
Posted by anxious babe on June 7, 2004, at 20:52:32
In reply to RE:: mystic, posted by bride2be on June 7, 2004, at 19:03:33
Mystic where r u ? Please come back!!!!
Please just let us know how you are feeling today - if it's not good I don't care I still want to hear it.
A.Babe
Posted by simus on June 7, 2004, at 21:34:48
In reply to RE:: mystic, posted by anxious babe on June 7, 2004, at 20:52:32
Thinking about you Mystic...I read some of your previous posts to me tonight and it made me smile again...
Simus
Posted by anxious babe on June 7, 2004, at 22:28:19
In reply to RE:: mystic, posted by simus on June 7, 2004, at 21:34:48
Hi Simus,
How are you doing? It seems it's only you and I tonight - where is everyone?
A.babe
Posted by simus on June 7, 2004, at 23:40:37
In reply to RE:: simus, posted by anxious babe on June 7, 2004, at 22:28:19
Hi Babe,
I don't know where everyone went. It must be a summer thing...
I am doing well. How have you been?
Simus
Posted by anxious babe on June 8, 2004, at 9:29:50
In reply to RE:: simus » anxious babe, posted by simus on June 7, 2004, at 23:40:37
I have been good Simus - thanks for asking.
I was just thanking God this morning that I was feeling so good. I hope everyone else is also.
I hope you have a great day and I'll talk to you soon.
A.babe
Posted by simus on June 8, 2004, at 11:34:04
In reply to RE:: simus, posted by anxious babe on June 8, 2004, at 9:29:50
I am sooooo glad you are feeling well! It's worth the wait, isn't it?
God bless,
Laia
Posted by anxious babe on June 8, 2004, at 12:18:10
In reply to RE:: simus » anxious babe, posted by simus on June 8, 2004, at 11:34:04
Absolutely!!! I wish I took this medication years ago instead of suffering all of this time.
blessings,
a.babe
Posted by mystic on June 8, 2004, at 13:24:24
In reply to RE:: simus » anxious babe, posted by simus on June 7, 2004, at 23:40:37
Hey everyone ...I'm still alive and ok...Still struggling but dont want to keep anyone hanging..Simus thank you for hanging in there with me..and anxious babe I'm so glad you came along also..Still struggling to up my dosage I'm sooo very stubborn...yesterday was a rough one but today is livable at least...Anxious how many mgs are you on of lex and are you taking anything besides the lex...I'm still doing the 15mgs and should go up to 20mgs my dr said it would be ok to go up to 17.5 at first if i wanted to...I think that is what Emily did but we dont hear from very many people on the posts anymore...so once again I will give you my e-mail in case we get lost and you want to continue to stay in touch you also simus...mystichyd38@aol.com...I dont mean to worry anyone...And am glad that everyone else seems to be doing sooo very well..I luvya allll...thanks simus thanks anxious babe and you know how i feel about you Mrs C my rock...Your friend Mystic
Posted by LynneDa on June 8, 2004, at 13:39:43
In reply to RE:: simus, posted by mystic on June 8, 2004, at 13:24:24
Hi Mystic -
I'm so glad you're still posting, but sad to hear you're still not doing well. Don't you ever think you bring any of us down or that we don't want to hear from you when you're not feeling well. It's quite the opposite. You give so much to everyone, now it's our turn to try and give to you :-).I am so NOT med-phobic, it's hard for me to understand what you are going through! I hope you will try the increase and see if it helps. 10mg to 20mg made such a difference for me! I still get crazy a couple of times per month, but it is fairly tolerable. You are so active with going to aerobics, seeing Mel & the baby, etc. That is something to be really proud of. Most people get lethargic and withdrawn when they don't feel good & start shutting out life. I don't see you doing that! Hang in there girl, I miss all your posts - you are the glue (not to put any pressure on you!).
~ Lynne
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hey everyone ...I'm still alive and ok...Still struggling but dont want to keep anyone hanging..Simus thank you for hanging in there with me..and anxious babe I'm so glad you came along also..Still struggling to up my dosage I'm sooo very stubborn...yesterday was a rough one but today is livable at least...Anxious how many mgs are you on of lex and are you taking anything besides the lex...I'm still doing the 15mgs and should go up to 20mgs my dr said it would be ok to go up to 17.5 at first if i wanted to...I think that is what Emily did but we dont hear from very many people on the posts anymore...so once again I will give you my e-mail in case we get lost and you want to continue to stay in touch you also simus...mystichyd38@aol.com...I dont mean to worry anyone...And am glad that everyone else seems to be doing sooo very well..I luvya allll...thanks simus thanks anxious babe and you know how i feel about you Mrs C my rock...Your friend Mystic
Posted by simus on June 8, 2004, at 14:02:55
In reply to RE:: simus, posted by mystic on June 8, 2004, at 13:24:24
Hey - great to hear from you, Mystic!!! If you don't mind my asking (you don't have to answer), do you have anxiety, depression, OCD, a combination, or something else? I could possibly offer some natural suggestions if I knew what you were dealing with. They may not completely cure you of everything, but it may make the difference between a bad day and a good day.
God bless,
Simus
Posted by simus on June 8, 2004, at 14:06:52
In reply to RE:: simus » mystic, posted by LynneDa on June 8, 2004, at 13:39:43
Mystic,
Ditto what Lynne said!!!
Lynne,
Thank you for always knowing the right thing to "say", and for taking the time to say it!
Simus
> Hi Mystic -
> I'm so glad you're still posting, but sad to hear you're still not doing well. Don't you ever think you bring any of us down or that we don't want to hear from you when you're not feeling well. It's quite the opposite. You give so much to everyone, now it's our turn to try and give to you :-).
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> I am so NOT med-phobic, it's hard for me to understand what you are going through! I hope you will try the increase and see if it helps. 10mg to 20mg made such a difference for me! I still get crazy a couple of times per month, but it is fairly tolerable. You are so active with going to aerobics, seeing Mel & the baby, etc. That is something to be really proud of. Most people get lethargic and withdrawn when they don't feel good & start shutting out life. I don't see you doing that! Hang in there girl, I miss all your posts - you are the glue (not to put any pressure on you!).
> ~ Lynne
Posted by LynneDa on June 8, 2004, at 14:10:05
In reply to RE:: simus » LynneDa, posted by simus on June 8, 2004, at 14:06:52
Thank you Simus - I feel the same way about you :-)!
If you have time, I'd love to know what natural remedies you've tried and how you feel they compare to the pharmaceuticals. I've tried 5-htp & Sam-E plus a bunch of herbal combos. I don't think I gave any of them a good enough go to assess whether they would've worked. Thanks!
~ Lynne
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Mystic,
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> Ditto what Lynne said!!!
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> Lynne,
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> Thank you for always knowing the right thing to "say", and for taking the time to say it!
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> Simus
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Posted by mystic on June 8, 2004, at 15:17:27
In reply to RE:: simus » LynneDa, posted by simus on June 8, 2004, at 14:06:52
Hey Simus...My problem is Anxiety then depression because of the anxiety...I have horrific fears and think it stems from my childhood..but these anxiety/depression modes come without any reason sometimes after stressful situations...but everything in my life is great right now except for I feel just horrible...My phobia of meds doesnt help me either it just makes it harder and I feel the same way about alternative medicines but am willing to listen...I'm so happy when I can help you and that you find comfort in my words because I know that I feel comfort in yours all the time...That is the reason that I put my e-mail on the posts I do e-mail everyday with Mrs C. and sussilala..so I do keep in contact with them...It seems that the posts are getting fewer and fewer which makes me sad...But thanks for all your support...Luvya Mystic
Posted by mystic on June 8, 2004, at 15:20:49
In reply to RE:: simus » mystic, posted by LynneDa on June 8, 2004, at 13:39:43
Lynne.....So happy to hear from you thank you so much for taking the time to write..I have missed you very very much....How long have you been on the 20mgs and how long did it take to kick in...did you go to 15mgs first...I had a terrible time with upping to the 15mgs and just am scared to go up to the 20mgs...did you gain any weight when you upped your dosage to 20mgs and do you feel weird on the 20mgs ie: forgetful..sad..ect.Thanks so much for all you do..I luvya you alllll..your friend Mystic
Posted by LynneDa on June 8, 2004, at 15:40:05
In reply to RE:: Lynne, posted by mystic on June 8, 2004, at 15:20:49
Hi Mystic -
It did take a few weeks for the 20mg to kick in. I went straight to 20mg. I still feel sleepy/foggy though, unless I drink a couple of cups of coffee, and my appetite did increase. Not to discourage you, but I have to be honest. I've gained 15 lbs since I went up in January & I'm not a weight-gainer, always been under weight!On the good side, I'm happier in general except for the sleepy/foggy stuff. My insomnia & inorgasmia are completely gone. I rarely have panicky-type moments anymore & I'm more productive at work (except for the time I spend on Babble!) and at home. The little things don't make me blow up anymore!
So, I'm now taking 10mg most of the time and then 20mg when I ovulate and a week before my period - those are the times I am wackier. My doctor said my body'd be okay with that mix because I've been on Lex long enough. So far, so good. I get slightly nauseous on the days I go up to 20, but not bad, I just eat crackers like I did when I was first pregnant :-).
Please don't give up - try the 17.5 and keep going if you need to. Yours might be a harder nut to crack. Anxiety creates a lot of stress. Stress can lead to quite an outpouring of chemicals into your system. Hopefully the meds will control the chemical outflow a bit - enough so that you can take some control over your anxiety triggers. It's a cyclical thing, Mystic, and to break the cycle you have to start somewhere. I think for you, like for most of us, it's a mix between chemicals (drugs) and therapy. Please don't be afraid!!!!
~ Lynne
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Lynne.....So happy to hear from you thank you so much for taking the time to write..I have missed you very very much....How long have you been on the 20mgs and how long did it take to kick in...did you go to 15mgs first...I had a terrible time with upping to the 15mgs and just am scared to go up to the 20mgs...did you gain any weight when you upped your dosage to 20mgs and do you feel weird on the 20mgs ie: forgetful..sad..ect.Thanks so much for all you do..I luvya you alllll..your friend Mystic
Posted by Mrs. C on June 8, 2004, at 21:29:58
In reply to RE:: simus » LynneDa, posted by simus on June 8, 2004, at 14:06:52
Ditto what Simus said about what Lynne said. Thanks everyone for helping Mystic. She is such a sweet soul!!By the way I haven't said this in a while but all of you yo yo's mean the world to me! Thanks for always being so supportive and understanding. Have a great day! Mrs. C
Posted by jlynne on June 8, 2004, at 22:15:11
In reply to RE:: Lynne, posted by mystic on June 8, 2004, at 15:20:49
Mystic, I am so sorry you have been having such a hard time. It's bad enough that we have our *issues* to deal with, but now we have these tofu'ing meds on top of it! Is there such a thing as therapy for the therapy??
I'm sorry if everyone has felt like I desserted the thread, but I have been having personal and family issues to deal with; some of which I can't address on babble because of certain privacy concerns. I will explain in open, if I run into anyone in there.
I have been having a lot of bad dreams lately; mostly about my ex, but I am told that once the anniversary date passes things will start getting dramatically better. I sure hope so. I keep going through times where I just feel paralyzed and can't seem to make myself accomplish anything around the house. I have so many plans but no progress yet.
I want to re-landscape my vegetable garden and make it into a flower garden, with a fountain and paths and pretty little surprises here and there. I want to learn how to use my nailer/stapler and make cute things for my yard. I want to redecorate my house. I want to wash my mini blinds. Heck, right now I just want to CHANGE THE SHEETS ON MY BED!! Alas . . . I wish my doc could prescribe some motivation.
Oh, yeah . . . I was going to try to cheer you up, mystic . . . sorry . . . I got sidetracked. *smile*
Hey, sweetie, you have mentioned your childhood a couple times in here, but you have never really talked about it with the yo yo's. And I am not asking you to, but I was wondering if you have someone you can talk to about it? I have my sister, and she remembers the same type stuff that I do so we comfort and support each other. I hope you have someone, cuz those memories can really weigh you down if you don't have someone to share the burden with.
As for your meds, you know that I am taking lex for depression, so I really don't have first hand experience with anxiety and lex. But I do know that lex acts a lot differently in the system than say, paxil, which is what you have to compare, right? The lex is finally starting to level out for me, and this is my fifth month. What I am experiencing now is from life, not meds so much, and I am hoping that it is the same for you and we will both get through this and be stronger afterward. Every time you increase there is going to be a period of adjustment, but if this is the right med for you, you will be so glad you toughed it out because it is a steadier, more reliable relief in the end.
Gosh, I'm running on aren't I. You won't be so eager for me to come back after this (LOL). Hang in there, mystic; we are all pulling for you:~)
(((Mystic)))
...jlynne
Posted by simus on June 8, 2004, at 22:43:42
In reply to Mystic, posted by jlynne on June 8, 2004, at 22:15:11
jlynne,
Hey, we missed you so much, girl. I am sorry to hear that you are having problems. You will be in my prayers.
Don't expect too much from yourself right now. These plans and goals will come to pass in time.
God bless,
Simus
Posted by simus on June 8, 2004, at 22:45:35
In reply to Mystic, posted by jlynne on June 8, 2004, at 22:15:11
Mystic,
How was today?
How is that sweet little boy doing? I bet he is really growing fast!
Still praying...
Simus
Posted by simus on June 9, 2004, at 0:43:25
In reply to RE:: simus, posted by LynneDa on June 8, 2004, at 14:10:05
> If you have time, I'd love to know what natural remedies you've tried and how you feel they compare to the pharmaceuticals. I've tried 5-htp & Sam-E plus a bunch of herbal combos. I don't think I gave any of them a good enough go to assess whether they would've worked. Thanks!
> ~ LynneLynne,
I have been struggling for over an hour now on a good response to your post. I wish I had a blanket answer for you, but there are so many, many factors to be considered. First of all, I would like to recommend the books "Depression Free, Naturally" and "The Mood Cure". They are both excellent. They talk of the brain chemicals and how to determine if or which we are deficient in. They also talk of other possible causes of depression/anxiety such as hormones, thyroid, and adrenal exhaustion, just to name a few. The books cover supplements that would be helpful, as well as those that should be avoided. They cover vitamins, minerals, amino acids, Omega oils, herbs, etc. They also cover diet and lifestyle. They have references for what testing can be done and who can do it. These books are such a wealth of information. The one thing I have found out is that our situations are each so unique, and that our bodies can be out of balance for so many reasons.
As far as taking 5htp on a SSRI, you have to be careful because the 5htp is the precursor to serotonin production and you could be in danger of serotonin syndrome (worst case is coma or death). But I don't think it is a problem for those not on any psychiatric meds - not sure. I think SAM-e should be taken with caution while on a SSRI also.
In my own situation, from information in the books I have learned of and have tested positive for a genetic blood disorder that causes a depletion of vitamin B6 and zinc, both critical to proper brain function. This disorder also causes adrenal exhaustion, and I do fit the profile. So I am not only adding extra B6 and zinc to my standard supplements, but I am also treating the adrenal exhaustion. I have come a LONG way, but I am still trying to get the right balance of supplements and proper lifestyle changes to treat the adrenal exhaustion. The books are clear that although there is some immediate improvement, recovery may take up to a year. Since it is a genetic disorder, I will probably have to treat it to some degree my whole life. But it sure beats facing a lifetime of drugs or sickness.
There are some things that I think I could safely recommend to everyone though. Gingko biloba is a great herb. It improves blood flow to the brain, elevates the mood in people prone to depression, and is a powerful anti-oxidant. Ginger root (I use it in tea form) is an adaptogen, which means it helps normalize many body functions. Green tea (in tea form), even though it has a small amount of caffeine, it contains anti-oxidants and other nutrients. Indian Ginseng (Ashwagandha Root) and Siberian ginseng root are excellent for many, many reasons. Indian ginseng is an adaptogen (like ginger). Siberian ginseng has the unique quality of both increasing energy levels and calming anxiety (do not use though if your blood pressure is very high). Of course, all of these should be taken in moderation. I make a cup of tea every day that has one green tea bag, one ginger tea bag, and one ginseng tea bag. It clears my mind, lifts my mood, calms anxiety, and just makes me "feel good".Some things that should definitely be avoided are street drugs (needless to say), alcohol, tobacco, coffee/black tea, sugar, white flour, "bad fats" and highly processed foods. Well, I think everybody knows these things, but actually cutting them all out does make a huge difference.
Gee, I sure hope this helped some.
God bless.
Simus
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