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Posted by dragonfly25 on February 3, 2004, at 12:22:45
this sounds like a weird question, but does anyone know what it is and if so can they explain how you get the numbers? I have a test soon. I understand what the A and Bs are I just don't get how I get 0.0, 0.5 or 1.0. Or how I get a number for A and B. I probably am not making any sense, but if anyone can help I would really appreciate it.
thankyou so much (praying soemone knows what im talking about:))
Posted by dragonfly25 on February 3, 2004, at 13:40:15
In reply to SUPPRESSION RATIO??? can anyone help?, posted by dragonfly25 on February 3, 2004, at 12:22:45
Posted by Angielala on February 5, 2004, at 11:19:06
In reply to Never mind, i figured it out (nm), posted by dragonfly25 on February 3, 2004, at 13:40:15
Would you happen to have the patience to explain what you got? I stared at that for so long, I'm dying to know the solution :) If it's long and complex, no worries, don't worry about explaining if it's going to make you write a book :)
Posted by dragonfly25 on February 5, 2004, at 11:35:33
In reply to Re: Never mind, i figured it out » dragonfly25, posted by Angielala on February 5, 2004, at 11:19:06
well i can try to explain....but i didn't do very well on my test :-). what it was that i didn't understand was how you get the A and Bs. but i discovered that A is # of CS- number of times something responds to a conditioned stimulus. and B is the number of times something responed before conditioning (US). so the equation then is B/A+B
say you trained a cat to come to the sound of a can opener....before training it didn't react= 0
aafter training the cat responds, say 9/10 times. so that would be 0/.9+0 = 0 which is full suppression. AHHHHHHH!!
ok i don't know what im talking about this isn't working....I guess this is why i didn't do very well! I don't think i explained that right because no matter wjhat # u put in you get 0. i thiought i had it....anyone else?
Posted by Angielala on February 5, 2004, at 11:48:44
In reply to Re: Never mind, i figured it out, posted by dragonfly25 on February 5, 2004, at 11:35:33
Sheesh- I see what you mean. Was the cat example the most common? Are there examples in which the rection (B) beforehand would be something random like "1", even though you cannot directly relate the reaction to the action? maybe something like 1/.9+1 would that bring you anywhere closer to a "normal" suppression? Man- did tha tmake any sense- haha
> well i can try to explain....but i didn't do very well on my test :-). what it was that i didn't understand was how you get the A and Bs. but i discovered that A is # of CS- number of times something responds to a conditioned stimulus. and B is the number of times something responed before conditioning (US). so the equation then is B/A+B
> say you trained a cat to come to the sound of a can opener....before training it didn't react= 0
> aafter training the cat responds, say 9/10 times. so that would be 0/.9+0 = 0 which is full suppression. AHHHHHHH!!
> ok i don't know what im talking about this isn't working....I guess this is why i didn't do very well! I don't think i explained that right because no matter wjhat # u put in you get 0. i thiought i had it....anyone else?
Posted by dragonfly25 on February 5, 2004, at 11:53:29
In reply to Re: Never mind, i figured it out, posted by Angielala on February 5, 2004, at 11:48:44
thank you thank you!!!!!!
that was the missing number! the reaction before is likely not going to always be zero. I can't believe i was tested on this only a few days ago- i have short-term memory problems. I tryed to learn EVERYTHING the night before as usual and it really didn't go over well :)
ARGH! sometimes i hate school....
Posted by Angielala on February 5, 2004, at 11:56:24
In reply to Re: Never mind, i figured it out, posted by dragonfly25 on February 5, 2004, at 11:53:29
I flunked that class- so don't go thinking I'm smart or anything- haha. Don't worry so much about school. You sound like you are on the right track and I bet you didn't do all that bad on that test ;)
> thank you thank you!!!!!!
> that was the missing number! the reaction before is likely not going to always be zero. I can't believe i was tested on this only a few days ago- i have short-term memory problems. I tryed to learn EVERYTHING the night before as usual and it really didn't go over well :)
> ARGH! sometimes i hate school....
Posted by dragonfly25 on February 5, 2004, at 11:58:26
In reply to Re: Never mind, i figured it out, posted by Angielala on February 5, 2004, at 11:56:24
Thanks, I hope so. Sometimes I think school will be the end of me :(
Posted by Angielala on February 5, 2004, at 12:06:21
In reply to Re: Never mind, i figured it out, posted by dragonfly25 on February 5, 2004, at 11:58:26
NO way- it's going to be the beginning for you ;) Don't let crazy equations freak you out- they are actualyl trying to freak you out- see if you can handle it... but after school, you won't be dealing with those horrible equations :) You'll feel like a MILLION dollars after you're done :)
> Thanks, I hope so. Sometimes I think school will be the end of me :(
>
Posted by dragonfly25 on February 5, 2004, at 12:11:12
In reply to Re: Never mind, i figured it out, posted by Angielala on February 5, 2004, at 12:06:21
Equations, books, profs, exams.......what else? they all freak me out. LOL. I am being dramatic, but when i am finished with school i will dance naked in the streets ill be so happy!
I hope i feel and make millions of dollars when im done :)- my expectations might be too high.
Posted by aussie on February 9, 2004, at 2:11:14
In reply to Re: Never mind, i figured it out, posted by dragonfly25 on February 5, 2004, at 11:58:26
No. Children will be the end of you. Just kidding...........
Posted by dragonfly25 on February 9, 2004, at 6:58:41
In reply to Re: Never mind, i figured it out, posted by aussie on February 9, 2004, at 2:11:14
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