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Posted by Katt on July 24, 2002, at 17:00:21
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Posted by alii on July 24, 2002, at 17:15:20
In reply to cutting again, posted by Katt on July 24, 2002, at 17:00:21
Any new stress bringing this on? Or just the usual?
--a. woo
Posted by Dinah on July 24, 2002, at 17:20:52
In reply to cutting again, posted by Katt on July 24, 2002, at 17:00:21
Posted by Dinah on July 24, 2002, at 17:29:15
In reply to cutting again, posted by Katt on July 24, 2002, at 17:00:21
Sorry Katt.
I answered the first thing that popped in my mind. I hope you're keeping as safe as possible and trying to use other alternatives when you can (hand in ice water, snapping rubber bands, etc.) I slapped myself silly today, which may not be the healthiest way to cope, but my therapist seems to like it better than cutting and it does give you that same sharp pain without permanent damage to your body.Have you talked to someone about what might be starting it up again? I had to go over every minute detail with my therapist today. It sure is a deterrant to have to do that.
Keep safe.
Dinah
Posted by judy1 on July 24, 2002, at 18:51:53
In reply to Re: cutting again » Katt, posted by Dinah on July 24, 2002, at 17:29:15
I, too, hope you're being as safe as you can. I'm glad you're telling your therapist Dinah, how about you Katt? Take care of yourselves, judy
Posted by Katt on July 24, 2002, at 20:34:50
In reply to sorry to hear that » Katt, posted by alii on July 24, 2002, at 17:15:20
Has to do with the conversation you and I had last time.
> Any new stress bringing this on? Or just the usual?
>
> --a. woo
Posted by Katt on July 24, 2002, at 20:37:27
In reply to Katt and Dinah, posted by judy1 on July 24, 2002, at 18:51:53
> I, too, hope you're being as safe as you can. I'm glad you're telling your therapist Dinah, how about you Katt? Take care of yourselves, judy
I don't really have one right now.
Posted by tabitha on July 25, 2002, at 0:26:00
In reply to Re: cutting again » Katt, posted by Dinah on July 24, 2002, at 17:29:15
Hi,
Sorry if this is dumb, I am not a cutter myself so I can't really evaluate how useful or useless these tips might be, but I recall reading on an SI website of some alternatives when the urge to cut is great:
- squeeze ice cubes in your hands
- draw on skin with red markerNow if only I could find an alternative to addictive web-surfing
Posted by judy1 on July 25, 2002, at 1:44:16
In reply to Re: Katt and Dinah » judy1, posted by Katt on July 24, 2002, at 20:37:27
Is it an insurance problem? Or a personal one? My therapist has been a huge help in reducing my cutting, by helping me stay more grounded- I don't dissociate, I don't cut. I still have times when I do, usually when I'm under tremendous stress. I guess that's a coping mechanism that's really difficult to stop- especially if you don't have another one to replace it with. Would it help if you posted here first when you feel the urge- you know we will give you lots of support. Please take care of yourself- judy
Posted by judy1 on July 25, 2002, at 1:48:21
In reply to cutting alternatives, posted by tabitha on July 25, 2002, at 0:26:00
Thanks for posting those, a lot of times nothing works. As far as the internet addiction, I go through phases of that myself (like right now), but I do force myself to take breaks and probably will very soon. The whole admin problem has emotionally drained me (and others I'm sure) and for my own safety I avoid it as much as I can. But I know I'll be taking a break soon anyway. Take care, judy
Posted by Katt on July 25, 2002, at 11:59:13
In reply to cutting alternatives, posted by tabitha on July 25, 2002, at 0:26:00
I've tried the whole ice thing and it just doesn't work. There is so much more that goes into it. Ice takes a long time to sting....there is almost no alternative. Someone mentioned slapping, but when I have done that, and not as a replacement for cutting, but more because it is immediately accessible, I have often really hurt myself, having soreness and pain in my face, neck, jaw, and head.
Posted by Katt on July 25, 2002, at 12:05:46
In reply to therapist for Katt, posted by judy1 on July 25, 2002, at 1:44:16
it's both. a pdoc stopped seeing me in february (but he still sees me and calls me...) but then lost job, got placed in dbt. dbt therapist is nice but i dissociate with her and we dont think or communicate at the same level. i go to group when its in session, but not getting much out of it. an incident where a group member pulled out a weapon a few weeks ago has left me completely silent. oh, and dbt isn't for processing, as the therapist said, so i guess its a deal-with-it situation.
i come here occasionally. sometimes read things, sometimes post. but i know some dont like me and i have been criticized by at least two people for posting trigerring issues on a board where there are people who are mentally ill......well, duh!!
Posted by oracle on July 25, 2002, at 12:45:37
In reply to Re: therapist for Katt » judy1, posted by Katt on July 25, 2002, at 12:05:46
i have been criticized by at least two people for posting trigerring issues on a board where there are people who are mentally ill......well, duh!!
Try putting something like "possible trigger"
in the subject. Then it is their choice to read it
and are they responsible for their reactions. i.e.
"You have been warned"
Posted by tina on July 25, 2002, at 14:07:06
In reply to Re: Me too. :( :( :( (nm) » Katt, posted by Dinah on July 24, 2002, at 17:20:52
Been beating the living crap out of the drywall downstairs too. I love the way it feels. Blood running down my knuckles and wrists. Don't know why but it helps me feel better.
Posted by judy1 on July 25, 2002, at 17:20:45
In reply to Re: therapist for Katt » judy1, posted by Katt on July 25, 2002, at 12:05:46
I'm sorry you've had negative experiences here, but I hope the majority has been positive. Sometimes I do DBT, but lately it's been strictly psychodynamic- maybe for the same reasons as you (dissociating too much). My therapist wanted me to try a group but I'm simply not ready, and after reading what you went through I think that just reinforces it. Take care, judy
Posted by judy1 on July 25, 2002, at 17:23:51
In reply to Re: therapist for Katt » judy1, posted by oracle on July 25, 2002, at 12:45:37
'Possible trigger' warnings are great advice- it's pretty standard on trauma boards, but I think we're in the minority here so most people don't see the need. I guess I feel it doesn't hurt to put it there just in case. Take care, judy
Posted by judy1 on July 26, 2002, at 11:38:57
In reply to Re: Me too. Feels good to me......, posted by tina on July 25, 2002, at 14:07:06
You're releasing endorphins. But there are better ways, like exercise. Are you getting help? Take care, judy
Posted by shar on July 27, 2002, at 18:09:05
In reply to cutting again, posted by Katt on July 24, 2002, at 17:00:21
Katt and Tina,
God, I hate it that you two are in such pain. I just bleedin hate it. Plus, not an f'ing thing I can do about it. Totally sux, because you are both so wonderful.
I have been having rage reactions as part of my Effexor withdrawal, plus the nausea, dizziness, and crying binges....and I have come VERY close to raging against myself. I've bitten my lips to the point of bleeding but that's about all so far.
Man, I wish you both a speedy journey through this time. I have faith that it will end; it has before and it can again. Til then I'll just love you from afar.
xoxo
Shar
Posted by Katt on July 28, 2002, at 22:35:00
In reply to damn, damn, damn....K and T, posted by shar on July 27, 2002, at 18:09:05
shar, you are wonderful
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