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Posted by Dr. Bob on July 23, 2002, at 8:19:01
[Posted by linkadge on July 22, 2002, at 14:48:16]
> The most commonly held religions
> state that people are inately evil,
> and that they must choose to turn from
> this natural evil, to an enlightened state.
> The majority or the population believes crime
> is commited by bad people.
>
> I disagree with this. I believe
> that people who are given a good envionment
> and a healthy brain, don't commit crimes.
> I no longer believe in the concept of evil.
>
> Hundreds of studies, have proven
> that with proper tretment, many criminals,
> even violent ones, can change their behavior
> dramatically. I'm sure this
> concept isn't new. Who the hell are we
> to make people, who have already suffered
> enough, suffer punnishment for their
> genes.
>
> Is there as single person here, who has be
> successfully treated with medication, able
> to argue with the power of their nature
> People cannot controll their mood, it
> usually controlls them.
>
> Rage and agression can be induced in many normal
> people with many substances from sterioids to
> resterpine. If can PCP has been blamed for
> thousands of crimes, then there concievably be
> somebody out there who experiences the same rage
> without intoxication.
>
> It is not about seeing the difference, it
> is about existing through the difference.
Posted by ctrlaltndel on July 23, 2002, at 13:41:46
In reply to Imprisoning chemically unballanced peop « linkadge, posted by Dr. Bob on July 23, 2002, at 8:19:01
I find this very interesting...I wish my brain was in first gear to discuss this.
Posted by Gabbi on July 23, 2002, at 16:01:55
In reply to Re: Imprisoning chemically unballanced peop « linkadge, posted by ctrlaltndel on July 23, 2002, at 13:41:46
I've been pondering that same question, when it became undeniable to me that my depression was nothing I could control. It made me question everything. To my own detriment I accepted people into my life who were abusive because I thought my sitting and crying for no explicable reason was no more understandable than someone lashing out in uncontrollable rage.
For me there is no answer, for despite the reasons,people are what they are, and unless we can provide an alternative which keeps others safe, what is the answer? I don't believe allowing someone who preys on others to be free to do so because its uncontrollable is acceptable either.
I don't believe people are innately caring or fair by virtue of being human and not being abused or deprived.
Especially having read about certain cultures ie: the Ik people mentioned in Diane Ackerman's book
The natural history of love" They are a culture which has lived under harsh but liveable conditions for so long, that they never had the "luxury' of developing concern for others. Mothers will take food from their infants, and there is no concept of Partnering.However that is a whole different discussion.
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