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Posted by paxvox on August 10, 2001, at 12:34:56
Have any of you heard or read about neurological disorders such as MS having a direct relationship to one suffering from a depressive illness, or cognitive difficulty? I recently read an abstract that made this association, and was wondering if this was main-stream thought. Any info?
Posted by susan C on August 10, 2001, at 13:19:13
In reply to MS and depressive illness, posted by paxvox on August 10, 2001, at 12:34:56
Yup, it is a consideration in my case, may consider an MRI which may show MS scaring on nerves.
Can you pass on abstract? Thanks
-S> Have any of you heard or read about neurological disorders such as MS having a direct relationship to one suffering from a depressive illness, or cognitive difficulty? I recently read an abstract that made this association, and was wondering if this was main-stream thought. Any info?
Posted by Ted on August 10, 2001, at 13:28:22
In reply to MS and depressive illness, posted by paxvox on August 10, 2001, at 12:34:56
Yes, a woman I correspond with who lives in Chapel Hill, NC, has MS and severe depression. She said there is a link to the MS scarring nerve tissue in her brain and the depression.
Ted
> Have any of you heard or read about neurological disorders such as MS having a direct relationship to one suffering from a depressive illness, or cognitive difficulty? I recently read an abstract that made this association, and was wondering if this was main-stream thought. Any info?
Posted by susan C on August 10, 2001, at 14:10:48
In reply to Re: MS and depressive illness, posted by Ted on August 10, 2001, at 13:28:22
Ok, now, If that is what is happening, what, for example, does she do that helps her?
> Yes, a woman I correspond with who lives in Chapel Hill, NC, has MS and severe depression. She said there is a link to the MS scarring nerve tissue in her brain and the depression.
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> Ted
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> > Have any of you heard or read about neurological disorders such as MS having a direct relationship to one suffering from a depressive illness, or cognitive difficulty? I recently read an abstract that made this association, and was wondering if this was main-stream thought. Any info?
Posted by Ted on August 10, 2001, at 15:21:23
In reply to Re: MS and depressive illness-Paxvox Ted, posted by susan C on August 10, 2001, at 14:10:48
I don't know. I will send her email and ask. Check back in a few days for the answer.
Ted
> Ok, now, If that is what is happening, what, for example, does she do that helps her?
Posted by stjames on August 10, 2001, at 17:40:20
In reply to MS and depressive illness, posted by paxvox on August 10, 2001, at 12:34:56
I think this is well known. MS effects neurology.
MS patients speak of a brain fog that sets in during a MS flare-up.James
Posted by susan C on August 10, 2001, at 18:34:43
In reply to Re: MS and depressive illness-Paxvox Ted » susan C, posted by Ted on August 10, 2001, at 15:21:23
> I don't know. I will send her email and ask. Check back in a few days for the answer.
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> Ted
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> > Ok, now, If that is what is happening, what, for example, does she do that helps her?
Posted by paxvox on August 10, 2001, at 21:19:00
In reply to thx ted (np), posted by susan C on August 10, 2001, at 18:34:43
> > I don't know. I will send her email and ask. Check back in a few days for the answer.
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> > Ted
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> > > Ok, now, If that is what is happening, what, for example, does she do that helps her?Hmmmmmmmm..... wish I hadn't asked now. I had optic Neuritis in 1977 when I was 17. I was told that in 40% of the cases, it was the precursur of MS. I went many years w/o any other KNOWN physical symptoms that I traditionally associated with MS, but always feared it in the "back of my mind". Now I read that the risk for ON going to MS DOES NOT decrease over time. I thought that after 24 years, I was ok. Now I am putting things together. The ON in 1977. Benign hyperplasic prostitis in 1980, depression starting in 1987. Sleep problems exacerbated by 1990. Further depressive illness since 1991. Now the BHP causing nocturia. It all is coming together. SOOOOOO.... I decided it is time to face my fears. I have made an appointment with a Neurologist for next week. In 1977-78, they didn't have MRI technology, nor the understanding of T cell and other autoimmune response in MS. Oh Lord...someone tell me I'm doing the best thing.
Posted by paxvox on August 10, 2001, at 21:21:04
In reply to Re: MS and depressive illness, posted by susan C on August 10, 2001, at 13:19:13
> Yup, it is a consideration in my case, may consider an MRI which may show MS scaring on nerves.
>
> Can you pass on abstract? Thanks
>I printed it out at work (42 pages). I will find the URL and post it Monday ,but I found it on a Neurological web site about ON and MS.
Pax
Posted by paxvox on August 10, 2001, at 21:48:52
In reply to MS and depressive illness, posted by paxvox on August 10, 2001, at 12:34:56
Please read my follow-up post. I would like to know if there is anyone else like me out there to compare notes with.
Pax
Posted by susan C on August 10, 2001, at 21:52:40
In reply to Re: MS and depressive illness » susan C, posted by paxvox on August 10, 2001, at 21:21:04
Hi
I need to add, he said he thot there was a 5% chance of me having MS, but it would be unusual case. I think any answer for me will be an unusual case of anything
I know what you mean by being frightened, and not being sure. Sometimes, though, I think we know ourselves the best and intuitvely can put things together at times.
At the moment I am taking my 'q' from my pdoc who I have confidence in. We are trying (lol, 'we') a new antiseizure to see if it helps. So far too many SE, not yet enough time. This illness is a test of patience. No pun intended.
Good luck at the dr's.
-s
> > Yup, it is a consideration in my case, may consider an MRI which may show MS scaring on nerves.
> >
> > Can you pass on abstract? Thanks
> >
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> I printed it out at work (42 pages). I will find the URL and post it Monday ,but I found it on a Neurological web site about ON and MS.
>
> Pax
Posted by paxvox on August 11, 2001, at 7:37:51
In reply to Re: MS and depressive illness, posted by susan C on August 10, 2001, at 21:52:40
> Hi
>
> I need to add, he said he thot there was a 5% chance of me having MS, but it would be unusual case. I think any answer for me will be an unusual case of anything
>
> I know what you mean by being frightened, and not being sure. Sometimes, though, I think we know ourselves the best and intuitvely can put things together at times.
>
> At the moment I am taking my 'q' from my pdoc who I have confidence in. We are trying (lol, 'we') a new antiseizure to see if it helps. So far too many SE, not yet enough time. This illness is a test of patience. No pun intended.
>
> Good luck at the dr's.
>
> -s
>
> > > Yup, it is a consideration in my case, may consider an MRI which may show MS scaring on nerves.
> > >
> > > Can you pass on abstract? Thanks
> > >
> >
> > I printed it out at work (42 pages). I will find the URL and post it Monday ,but I found it on a Neurological web site about ON and MS.
> >
> > PaxWhat, if any, neurological problems are you suffering? Do YOU have optic Neuritis, or "just" a Major Depressive Illness? ( I know, the "just" sounds like.. "Oh, you "Just" lost the one leg?".
I know, I have a MDI, there is no "just", however, considering the alternatives....
Please get back to me, perhaps we can exchange email for more detail,if you wish.Pax
Posted by susan C on August 11, 2001, at 9:58:08
In reply to Re: MS and depressive illness » susan C, posted by paxvox on August 11, 2001, at 7:37:51
Probably email exchange would be good, sicl505@hotmail.com
> > Hi
> >
> > I need to add, he said he thot there was a 5% chance of me having MS, but it would be unusual case. I think any answer for me will be an unusual case of anything
> >
> > I know what you mean by being frightened, and not being sure. Sometimes, though, I think we know ourselves the best and intuitvely can put things together at times.
> >
> > At the moment I am taking my 'q' from my pdoc who I have confidence in. We are trying (lol, 'we') a new antiseizure to see if it helps. So far too many SE, not yet enough time. This illness is a test of patience. No pun intended.
> >
> > Good luck at the dr's.
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> > -s
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> > > > Yup, it is a consideration in my case, may consider an MRI which may show MS scaring on nerves.
> > > >
> > > > Can you pass on abstract? Thanks
> > > >
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> > > I printed it out at work (42 pages). I will find the URL and post it Monday ,but I found it on a Neurological web site about ON and MS.
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> > > Pax
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> What, if any, neurological problems are you suffering? Do YOU have optic Neuritis, or "just" a Major Depressive Illness? ( I know, the "just" sounds like.. "Oh, you "Just" lost the one leg?".
> I know, I have a MDI, there is no "just", however, considering the alternatives....
> Please get back to me, perhaps we can exchange email for more detail,if you wish.
>
> Pax
Posted by susan C on August 11, 2001, at 22:32:38
In reply to MS and depressive illness, posted by paxvox on August 10, 2001, at 12:34:56
Hi Pax,
Just a note to tell you I have been hunting cyberspace and read about ON etc. I don't have an 'identified' neurologic disorder, but my pdoc is also a neurologist and we are thinking my mood disorder is seizure in origin. I have a family history of seizure, a type of trilingual nerve, nerve sheth, mood disorder. This is why he thinks MS may be indicated. It may explain my father's inexplicable pain, even though they cut the facial triligual nerve, my mood swings, etc.
Have you hear of a weekly injection for MS called Avon**?
I am out here hunting with you.
Take care.
-s
>Have any of you heard or read about neurological disorders such as MS having a direct relationship to one suffering from a depressive illness, or cognitive difficulty? I recently read an abstract that made this association, and was wondering if this was main-stream thought. Any info?
Posted by susan C on August 11, 2001, at 22:54:33
In reply to Re: MS and depressive illness, posted by susan C on August 11, 2001, at 22:32:38
> Hi Pax,
>
> Just a note to tell you I have been hunting cyberspace and read about ON etc. I don't have an 'identified' neurologic disorder, but my pdoc is also a neurologist and we are thinking my mood disorder is seizure in origin. I have a family history of seizure, a type of trilingual nerve, nerve sheth, mood disorder. This is why he thinks MS may be indicated. It may explain my father's inexplicable pain, even though they cut the facial triligual nerve, my mood swings, etc.
>
> Have you hear of a weekly injection for MS called Avon**?
>
> I am out here hunting with you.
>
> Take care.
>
> -s
>
> >Have any of you heard or read about neurological disorders such as MS having a direct relationship to one suffering from a depressive illness, or cognitive difficulty? I recently read an abstract that made this association, and was wondering if this was main-stream thought. Any info?
Posted by paxvox on August 12, 2001, at 7:32:36
In reply to Paxvox: it is Avonex (np), posted by susan C on August 11, 2001, at 22:54:33
No, I have not been current on the MS treatments since I was never on any. I think the depression issue does run with many neurological illnesses. Check the email I sent you.
Posted by Ted on August 13, 2001, at 11:15:07
In reply to Re: MS and depressive illness-Paxvox Ted, posted by susan C on August 10, 2001, at 14:10:48
Hi Susan,
I finally got a reply:
"Nothing....I have not taken any BP meds or MS meds for a long time."
She has said that she is willing to talk with others. Let me know if you want her email address.
Ted
> Ok, now, If that is what is happening, what, for example, does she do that helps her?
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