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Posted by Drexxie on August 5, 2001, at 1:43:49
> > Okay, here's my poor analogy... Our words to one another are much more... For in them we can send powerful doses of either poisons, or a curatives. And... Either unfortunately, or fortunately, in each of our hearts, these doses have a "half-life" of quite possibly, forever...
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> Words such as you have spoken I wish could be published, so many could hear them. They are so true and could do so much good.
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I believe I write that which I myself need most to be reminded of (smile). Had not been for your words, I would never have had the reminder I so desperately needed.
Willow, after reading your words, I felt as though I had been infused with some sort of medicine which, left me somehow "different" than I had been prior to taking/reading the medicine/your message.
Amazing, what you have done for me (an absolute stranger)... Deep inside of me, somewhere... something... somehow... there is less agony, less despair and more hope and happiness.
life a bit more endurable.It wasn't until that very moment that I even begin to ponder what an absolutely amazing ability and trememdous power to heal/help or harm/hurt others with our words. I expound upon this, not to embarrass you, but because I find this new awareness and insight I just experienced as nothing less than a "revelation." I have been beyond cruel in regards to why I've personally injured others with my words. My brother once asked me why it was that I would insult people so egregiously. I didn't know how to respond, other than by stating that others have so often hurt me. He shrugged his shoulders and asked me, "Do you truly think that there is anyone alive, who isn't suffering and in pain? Life alone gives us all
such pain... so much in fact that we all, on ocassion wonder, doubt that we'll live through some of it. Do you really think they don't already have enough pain and that you need to add more?" I now realize the wisdom behind his inquiries... For, personally, I've enough pain just from the events encounted in life. I hurt enough that others truly don't have to try to hurt me... for I'm alrady in pain, they could save time by realizing that their need to hurt me, has already been achieved (life takes care of it [small smile]) One thing from your message is that I hurt others, because I was hurting. In doing so, it wasn't as though they might be able to help me out and carry some of the pain I tried to give them. No, all I was doing was increasing the amount of pain I was already carrying. So many of my regrets and pains over the years have been caused by the infinite number of ways, I've hurt others. I've never looked back and felt fulfilled and happy that I hurt another human being.... Never, that fact has did nothing more than increase my own pain.However, when I look back on the happy moments, they are filled with times in which I gave of myself to aid in helping others to achieve a greater happiness. In attempting to help others be happy, I've made some tremendously happy times for myself.
Sheesh! It's taken me soo long to even begin to even ponder the rudimentary aspects of this concept. So many more things in my life now make a bit more sense.Your willingness to share a kind word and support have opened my eyes to so much, Willow. Why certain lessons are learned when they are, what brings forth these awakenings will probably always reamin a mystery to me. I suppose I was finally able to understand a bit more about life, as a result of your message.
Jeez... Did you ever imagine what a gift you have me? (huge smile)
I hope I haven't embarrassed you and promise that I'm not about to try and procure a loan or anything of the sort! (ha ha)
It's just that I would have been amiss had not shared with you the joy you were able to bring to me. Too often we never are make aware of how kind words have helped. Unfortunately, long letters from this writer are usually reserved for expounded upon the effects of someones negative words.I like writing this type of message much more than the other! (big smile)
You did a great thing for a fellow human being today, Willow. I hope you get the "pat on the back" you so deserve.Truly,
DrexAddendum: I'm so happy that your dear father survived such a horrible ordeal. Events as such always have a way of changing us too, don't they?
In this case, your knowledge in what I'm going through has allowed you the insight to "understand" as best as anyone truly can, that which I'm going through. As
Aristotle stated, "We are alone, until we are understood." Although I'm currently by myself, I'm no longer alone (smile). Tomorrow I'll be with family, so please not another worrisome thought about me... I'm going to be okay!
And you played a part in that, believe it or not. For had I recieved any sort of message that "drew blood" the outcome of my day would have been greatly different and my soul more lost than ever...Your a benefit to this board, Willow! And I'm especially thankful that you're here!! (biggest smile ever!!)
his emotional mush-mush, of mine. yek [small smile])
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> As one cyber-friend commonly points out to me, "no need to be sorry!"
> Having said that I'm wondering if you are alone right now. When my father had his heart attack the worst was not being able to share my grief with someone. (It wasn't fatal but just showed me how fragile our loved ones lives can be.) I understand your grief and wish I could lessen it, but perhaps it is there to help heal the void caused by your loss.
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> Willow
Posted by lissa on August 5, 2001, at 5:07:21
In reply to Re: An analogy all should read ... » Willow, posted by Drexxie on August 5, 2001, at 1:43:49
Drexxie, Dahlink,
Oh, no, no, "dahlink" is kazoo's schtick. Allow me to start over ... ahem, ahem! ... Mi-mi-meeeeee ...
Drexxie, baby,
Fine to take responsibility for what you say, but don't let it weigh on your consciousness like the famous (former) "Two Fat Ladies" and six pounds of lard. It'll only give you a heart attack.
> Aristotle stated, "We are alone, until we are understood."
Fine, fine -- back in the day when they all hung out in the agora. For a modern version, "We are alone, until we leave the house already, meet someone, and try to get them to understand what the hell we're trying to say."
You're capable of that. I can tell. But don't sit around waiting for the Understanding One to arrive at your door; you'll only get a Jehovah's witness.
Yes, And we all love Willow. Ain't she the best?
Keep on writing, Drex. Start some more threads.
lissa
PS -- Somehow I think you might like the book, "Alexis," by Marguerite Yourcenar. Do you like novels? She is interested in the effects of words in a similar sort of abstract way as you are.
Posted by Willow on August 5, 2001, at 19:14:51
In reply to Re: An analogy all should read ... » Willow, posted by Drexxie on August 5, 2001, at 1:43:49
Lissa is right about not knocking yourself. Reminds me of a time with my brother's girlfriend. She has a tendency to always point out something negative. After their child was born, my brother was stressed. Then I had the both of them nagging at me. I had become ill with the CFS, but didn't know what was causing it. My brother made a snide remark to me. I snapped at the both of them.
This happened years ago, the little one started school this past fall. She still hasn't forgiven me. Gees! A few words said in haste can leave a permanent mark if the recipient doesn't understand where they are coming from and isn't able to forgive. Ouch!
Whispering Willow
ps i am not worthy of your praise. my first post salt was meant for my cyber-friend. i was green with envy because he had called you dear and ignored me for the past week. i should change my name to JADED.
Posted by lissa on August 6, 2001, at 18:31:13
In reply to Re: An analogy all should read ..., posted by lissa on August 5, 2001, at 5:07:21
> Keep on writing, Drex. Start some more threads.
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> lissa
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I meant it!! Where are you? How are you?
Posted by Willow on August 6, 2001, at 20:47:13
In reply to Words said in haste ..., posted by Willow on August 5, 2001, at 19:14:51
I saw her over in the med section. Lissa maybe you could post a note to her to come back over here? I'm scared to move around too much because in haste this morning, probably out of curiosity I hit the anti-addiction button. You ever do anything and not notice what a mistake it is until it's been done.
Willow
ps Lissa, i'm over the crush thing
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