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Posted by Larry Hoover on November 21, 2005, at 22:34:34
In reply to another ? about guys, posted by happyflower on November 20, 2005, at 18:07:07
> Hi! Thanks all for your responses so far! :) Another question, do most guys wake up with a woody in the morning?
So long as they otherwise can get one, yes. Erectile dysfunction in a sexual context also prevents this reaction.
It's almost always the case if I wake erect that I also have a full bladder. It is impossible to pee through an erection. I appreciate the potential romantic opportunity presented by a guy appearing like he's ready to play, but the truth is (for me), I gotta pee. The "wake up with woodie and make love" scenario is truly a myth, at least in so far as it applies to me. Too bad, really. Sex to start the day is great.
Lar
Posted by sunny10 on November 22, 2005, at 8:10:40
In reply to Re: another ? about guys » happyflower, posted by Larry Hoover on November 21, 2005, at 22:34:34
yeah, gotta say that I've been told in the past to "get off of me- that's not for you" in the morning...
Posted by kid47 on November 22, 2005, at 9:17:09
In reply to Re: another ? about guys » happyflower, posted by Larry Hoover on November 21, 2005, at 22:34:34
>>It is impossible to pee through an erection.<<
Difficult, but not impossible......perhaps a "bank" shot off the exhaust fan.
Peace
kid
Posted by caraher on November 22, 2005, at 15:05:23
In reply to Re: another ? about guys » Larry Hoover, posted by kid47 on November 22, 2005, at 9:17:09
> >>It is impossible to pee through an erection.<<
>
> Difficult, but not impossible......perhaps a "bank" shot off the exhaust fan.It's not just the angle... it's which passages are open for business. You can urinate through an erection if it's somewhat soft but not when it's at its hardest. Or at least I can't. I imagine that's for good reason, too.
Posted by alexandra_k on November 22, 2005, at 15:33:47
In reply to Re: another ? about guys, posted by caraher on November 22, 2005, at 15:05:23
> I imagine that's for good reason, too.
Yes, indeed.
Posted by Larry Hoover on November 22, 2005, at 15:56:31
In reply to Re: another ? about guys, posted by caraher on November 22, 2005, at 15:05:23
> > >>It is impossible to pee through an erection.<<
> >
> > Difficult, but not impossible......perhaps a "bank" shot off the exhaust fan.
>
> It's not just the angle... it's which passages are open for business. You can urinate through an erection if it's somewhat soft but not when it's at its hardest. Or at least I can't. I imagine that's for good reason, too.Perhaps my use of "impossible" was a little black and white. You never know what the other guy can do, eh? But it's supposed to be physiologically impossible. Because of the plumbing in common (the penis, and four inches of ureter), the erection clamps off the ureter at the level of the prostate. That forces the ejaculate out, rather than allowing it to go back up into the bladder (retrograde ejaculation). That's not so good for reproductive success, from an evolutionary standpoint.
Lar
Posted by Larry Hoover on November 22, 2005, at 15:57:11
In reply to Re: another ? about guys, posted by alexandra_k on November 22, 2005, at 15:33:47
> > I imagine that's for good reason, too.
>
> Yes, indeed.I guess you're not inclined towards watersports?
Posted by zeugma on November 22, 2005, at 16:39:05
In reply to Re: another ? about guys » Larry Hoover, posted by sunny10 on November 22, 2005, at 8:10:40
> yeah, gotta say that I've been told in the past to "get off of me- that's not for you" in the morning...>>
i don't understand men sometimes. Strange considering I am one.
-z
Posted by alexandra_k on November 22, 2005, at 17:46:52
In reply to Re: another ? about guys » alexandra_k, posted by Larry Hoover on November 22, 2005, at 15:57:11
> I guess you're not inclined towards watersports?
I've heard of 'golden showers' and I have to say that no, that really doesn't have any appeal to me whatsoever.
I was thinking that the clamping thing...
Might have something to do minimising risk of infection too...??
Posted by caraher on November 23, 2005, at 8:14:56
In reply to Re: another ? about guys » Larry Hoover, posted by alexandra_k on November 22, 2005, at 17:46:52
> I was thinking that the clamping thing...
> Might have something to do minimising risk of infection too...Perhaps... though my wife, who's more medically inclined than I am, says urine is comparatively free of potentially infectious organisms.
Not that I'd exactly consider it "clean" myself!
Posted by Declan on November 23, 2005, at 13:17:04
In reply to Re: another ? about guys, posted by caraher on November 23, 2005, at 8:14:56
Early morning erctions can be knocked out by drugs and as drug use is lowered they come back. The quality of sleep has something to do with it, ie the sleep has to have some depth, dunno if REM or deep sleep is best for it. It's the pressure of the bladder against the prostate, isn't it?
It was a problem in boarding school. Everyone sleeps together, (you know in the same big dormitory). Everyone gets up to shower (publically) at the same time. Any less than wholly masculine (or whateveritis) boys with erections (in the shower!) would need to look out. Talk about waste.
Declan
Posted by snapper on November 24, 2005, at 1:50:37
In reply to Re: another ? about guys » happyflower, posted by Larry Hoover on November 21, 2005, at 22:34:34
> > Hi! Thanks all for your responses so far! :) Another question, do most guys wake up with a woody in the morning?
>
> So long as they otherwise can get one, yes. Erectile dysfunction in a sexual context also prevents this reaction.
>
> It's almost always the case if I wake erect that I also have a full bladder. It is impossible to pee through an erection. I appreciate the potential romantic opportunity presented by a guy appearing like he's ready to play, but the truth is (for me), I gotta pee. The "wake up with woodie and make love" scenario is truly a myth, at least in so far as it applies to me.>
> Lar
>
> The "wake up with woodie and make love" scenario is truly a myth, at least in so far as it applies to me.>
> Lar
Larry, yes this is true. As you well know....However, I belive a lot of my day and depression and anxiety would be at least 1/2 better with early morning / wake up loving would be ..to make the difference. :) Nothing like a good Dopamine and other "neuro-chemical on-slaught in the Am. It is better than most realize...sadly the truth is that not everyone gets this...more communication is needed.
Take care
Snapper
Posted by Larry Hoover on November 24, 2005, at 7:35:03
In reply to Re: another ? about guys » Larry Hoover, posted by snapper on November 24, 2005, at 1:50:37
> > It's almost always the case if I wake erect that I also have a full bladder. It is impossible to pee through an erection. I appreciate the potential romantic opportunity presented by a guy appearing like he's ready to play, but the truth is (for me), I gotta pee. The "wake up with woodie and make love" scenario is truly a myth, at least in so far as it applies to me.>
> > Lar
> >
>
> Larry, yes this is true. As you well know....However, I belive a lot of my day and depression and anxiety would be at least 1/2 better with early morning / wake up loving would be ..to make the difference. :) Nothing like a good Dopamine and other "neuro-chemical on-slaught in the Am. It is better than most realize...sadly the truth is that not everyone gets this...more communication is needed.
> Take care
> SnapperYou can be sure I said something like, "Hold that thought! I'll be right back!"
Lar
Posted by ed_uk on November 26, 2005, at 15:48:49
In reply to Re: another ? about guys, posted by Declan on November 23, 2005, at 13:17:04
>Early morning erctions can be knocked out by drugs.....
No kidding! I almost never wake up with an erection and I've been drugged up to the eyeballs for years ;-)
>..........as drug use is lowered they come back
Dunno. I've been medicated since early adolescence so I guess I might have been permanently damaged.
Eddy xx
Posted by Declan on November 26, 2005, at 18:42:01
In reply to Re: another ? about guys » Declan, posted by ed_uk on November 26, 2005, at 15:48:49
Eddy, you're a peach anyway
love
Declan
Posted by jonquiljo on December 5, 2005, at 22:44:49
In reply to Re: another ? about guys » Declan, posted by ed_uk on November 26, 2005, at 15:48:49
Age too. After a while, you know youre not going to get any action - so no need to rise to the occasion.
I think if I knew it was in the realm of possibility for me, I would wake up "in ancticipation". But I'm too old and too dysfunctional.
Posted by Tamar on December 6, 2005, at 8:36:05
In reply to Re: another ? about guys, posted by jonquiljo on December 5, 2005, at 22:44:49
> Age too. After a while, you know youre not going to get any action - so no need to rise to the occasion.
>
> I think if I knew it was in the realm of possibility for me, I would wake up "in ancticipation". But I'm too old and too dysfunctional.Interesting how the anticipation thing can make a difference, at any age. Some years ago I had a lover who was much older than me. He was in his mid-fifties at the time and I was in my early twenties, and I rather foolishly assumed he would be a bit less, er, shall we say… up for it than younger men. But the first time we were intimate there was no suppressing it. Talk about multiple male orgasms… I’m sure it had something to do with the new situation / new partner aspect of it.
As for morning wood: some of my partners never woke up with it, others always did. I think it depends on the man. There was no difference in libido or stamina between those who were hard in the morning and those who weren’t. Gee, I sound like I’ve been conducting research or something… the results of my study will be published in next month’s Journal of Sexual Conquests. I’m now looking for volunteers to participate in my new project which seeks to evaluate the efficacy of different tongue techniques…
Posted by jonquiljo on December 6, 2005, at 13:42:11
In reply to female input, posted by Tamar on December 6, 2005, at 8:36:05
Trust my word (although I'm only in my early 50's), men NEVER lose their sex drive - it just sometimes need a bit of coaxing. Men need to be wanted just like women - perhaps more so. When a man knows he isn't going to get any, for lack of a better term, he doesn't anticipate anything.
Its also related to the more you get the more you want syndrome - which applies to men and women alike.
Posted by Tamar on December 6, 2005, at 15:19:25
In reply to Re: female input, posted by jonquiljo on December 6, 2005, at 13:42:11
> Trust my word (although I'm only in my early 50's), men NEVER lose their sex drive - it just sometimes need a bit of coaxing. Men need to be wanted just like women - perhaps more so. When a man knows he isn't going to get any, for lack of a better term, he doesn't anticipate anything.
I believe you. Especially the part about being wanted. And I think it’s important for women to want men too. For me it’s part of being alive. I need to be able to look at my partner’s body and want to touch him. When I was really depressed and lost my libido it felt very strange. I hated being unable to look at men with desire. It was like being a bit fractured.
But I suppose my question is: how do you know you’re not going to get any? Is it a matter of falling out of the habit because your partner seems to have lost interest? I’ve heard that some women lose their libido around the menopause, and it’s really unfortunate because it can coincide with thoughts that sex is only for younger people. And yet I’ve known couples who were still having sex in their late seventies…
> Its also related to the more you get the more you want syndrome - which applies to men and women alike.
Exactly. Also known as 'use it or lose it'. But even if it’s not happening with your partner I reckon it’s important to keep things going by yourself. In some ways it might be an opportunity to try new techniques, new fantasies, new props… I think it does maintain a sense of being desirable if we can maintain an interest in ourselves…
Just my two cents.
Tamar
Posted by happyflower on December 6, 2005, at 19:03:33
In reply to female input, posted by Tamar on December 6, 2005, at 8:36:05
. I’m now looking for volunteers to participate in my new project which seeks to evaluate the efficacy of different tongue techniques…
I WOULD LOVE TO BE ONE OF THE JUDGES!!!!! PLEASE! Epecially if they are a brass musican, there is single, double, flutter, triple, accented, and gentle tonguing! Oh, man, I am going crazy! :)
Posted by happyflower on December 6, 2005, at 19:05:34
In reply to Re: female input, posted by happyflower on December 6, 2005, at 19:03:33
Posted by jonquiljo on December 6, 2005, at 22:09:13
In reply to Re: female input » jonquiljo, posted by Tamar on December 6, 2005, at 15:19:25
Oh, my wife has a severely degenerative spinal condition. Her pain and other issues are such that it is out of the question. Perhaps if things get better, perhaps not.
Its difficult for me in many ways, but it is infinitely more difficult for her. Oh well, at least I can talk about it.
Jon
Posted by Tamar on December 7, 2005, at 7:43:59
In reply to Re: female input, posted by jonquiljo on December 6, 2005, at 22:09:13
> Oh, my wife has a severely degenerative spinal condition. Her pain and other issues are such that it is out of the question. Perhaps if things get better, perhaps not.
Gosh, that sounds tough. Yes, pain is really a serious problem.
> Its difficult for me in many ways, but it is infinitely more difficult for her. Oh well, at least I can talk about it.
I’m sure it is difficult for her. Is it something you’ve talked about with her? I know pain can be very debilitating, but sometimes sexual activity (and particularly orgasm) can help both with pain and with a general sense of life being worthwhile. Maybe penetrative sex is out of the question, but are there other things you can do for each other?
I would guess there’s little enough enjoyment in life with a serious medical condition; giving up one’s sexuality seems like too much on top of giving up so many other things. And yet, of course, it’s hard to feel sexy when there’s a lot of pain and physical damage. And doctors aren’t always very clued up about it… I think they often see sexuality as an optional factor in life, rather than as something that can make a huge difference to a patient’s state of mind and ability to recover or to cope with illness.
I’m sorry it’s so difficult for you both.
Posted by jonquiljo on December 7, 2005, at 13:45:49
In reply to Re: female input » jonquiljo, posted by Tamar on December 7, 2005, at 7:43:59
Thanks Tamar. Its difficult for both. I guess its the ultimate test of a relationship - illness I mean. It really boils down to sacrifices you make for the one you love. The sacrifices can be far more than just a sex like, unfortunately. But life is like that.
Well, I try to keep myself cheery about lots of things and won't drone on the negative here. I do miss sex however, and have a vivid memory and imagination. Ha!
Posted by jonquiljo on December 7, 2005, at 14:06:37
In reply to Re: female input, posted by jonquiljo on December 7, 2005, at 13:45:49
I keep myself occupied with fun cars, etc - basically as a substitute. Its not the same, but it is a diversion. Actually, a lot of men do that.
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