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Posted by 64bowtie on May 30, 2012, at 7:47:05
Neuro-Linguistic Programming, AKA Neuro-Linguistic Psychotherapy, is getting a bad rap among professionals who project the practice is Pseudo-Science, Phenomenology, and a non-starter... Hmmmmmmmm... I've spent the last 15 years being mentored by an adherent of NLP...
Let's say we take a hundred front pages to as many daily newspapers (1, each), scanning and collecting the speech patterns contained in each front page story, in order to create an encyclopedia of (average) "normal" speech patterns, that can be compared to those of a new client's while they are under duress...
I just learned of this purposeful modality in articles I was reading over the weekend... Since I was never directly involved with NLP, you might ask what differences it might make... Also, I'm not a licensed practicing Psychotherapist anyway, so what's up???
That's the analysis process... Where the therapy comes into play, is to encourage at all times, correcting client speech to approach the normal accepted speech patterns... By inference, NLP hypothesizes that after sufficient time and repetition, a new order of comfort sets in...
This may point to wellness in the externally conflicted client, but lacks a theme when studying internally conflicted clients; some say 90% of all disturbed and distorted clients are mildly to severely "INTERNALLY CONFLICTED"... You must firstly get the attention of this client... Then secondly help to overcome the conflictedness... Now you can help them overcome the nature of their disturbed and distorted lives... The process may take the client an enormous amount of time to find relief from the voices in their heads; to hear only 1 voice, and to recognize it as their own...
By reading the condemnations and concerns of the other erstwhile professionals, a troubling pattern began to emerge... David Peck, my mentor and friend of 29 years, till his death, pioneered naive practices that served him well in his practice but didn't translate so well to the mainstream...
This presents itself as a crossroads to me... I have my hard fought PhD in Education; not likely to be used in any classroom; more likely to be used as authorship authentication (proof that I'm a writer)... So, not much of my MO has to change...
To list my motives, everything stays pretty much in place... I have solved a mystery for myself, and now I'm free to pursue my own practice... I will never have to abandon my mentor, David Peck and his models meant to foster wellness... I am sad that so many of his unique therapy approaches leaned so heavily on his connections to Bandler and Grinder, and their early days of NLP...
And, after-all, as I said before, I am not trying to become a SHRINK!!!
Rod
Posted by PartlyCloudy on May 30, 2012, at 20:40:32
In reply to NLP and its several iterations, posted by 64bowtie on May 30, 2012, at 7:47:05
I had a close friend who taught and was under a brutal recruiting goal setter for the NLP "schtick" as she refers to it. She thoroughly denounces it as feel-good bunk.
She did not require to have any professional credentials having to do with psychology or human relations. She came from a marketing background and did it for extra money on the weekends.
It all became an unholy mess when his wife caught wind of the extra teaching modules they were working on, if you get my drift.
Families were shattered. Enormous sums of money were lost.I have more adverse NLP stories in my arsenal if you're interested. From every single experience I have heard of, it's not real anything but dangerous hype practiced by secretaries.
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Posted by 64bowtie on June 1, 2012, at 5:26:11
In reply to Re: NLP and its several iterations » 64bowtie, posted by PartlyCloudy on May 30, 2012, at 20:40:32
Thanks for responding »PartlyCloudy» ... In no way am I defending practitioners of NLP... Now that I can properly frame the principles and practices of my Mentor, David Peck, I see him as a researcher using the rhetoric of NLP as a tool... The ensuing therapy was mostly mainstream, provided the guidelines of his dual California certifications and licenses: LCSW from the Social Work side and MFCC from the Psychology side...
To play therapist in this bigger pond, he had to complete 5,000 hours of supervised internship working with literally all kinds of patients... Either side only requires 3,000 hours under supervision in order to qualify to take the test for California certification; and, yes, he had to pass both tests in order to get both certifications... Scuttlebutt has it that not many try out this path...
The payoff for him is that he was already a successful business man who hired a stable of therapists, some LCSW certified and some MFCC certified... This broadened his market appeal; and no one gets left behind... At one time, he had a total of 9 therapists plus himself under roof, complete with toddler daycare available...
I, toooo, only use the rhetoric, occasionally, when appropriate, and as an analytical tool... I can't "commit therapy" or I'll probably get charged with "Felony attempt to heal a sick mind"...
Rod
PS: Since Reagan closed all mental hospitals and evicted the patients turning them into the criminally insane; later declaring that fully 50% of all criminals are already crazy to ever commit a crime with him as Governor... (chortle, chortle, guffaw, guffaw)... But see, Reagan's Narcissism was a different class of crime; "Inexcusable Classism"....
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