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Posted by muffled on November 9, 2006, at 1:08:17
I just need to know if its normal to feel more split off with your ego states when one of your ego states is upset and wants comfort from T but security won't allow it.
This part has weird emots that I don't like. But she little and needs comfort cuz everything is going bad. But I can't seem to let her come out, and I want her to but I CAN'T.
But I splitting all over.
Is this normal anybody?
Will it go away?
Is it a bad sign?
I tired too.
Maybe thats why.
I SO mixed up.
Sad muffled.
Posted by SatinDoll on November 9, 2006, at 7:12:52
In reply to Please, can someone answer this...., posted by muffled on November 9, 2006, at 1:08:17
I don't know any answers to your questions, but I just wanted to send ya a hug today if you need one ((((muffy))))
By, the way, what you discribe sounds interesting and if you feel it, I am sure others do too. I think you are more normal than you think Muffy! ;-)
Posted by sunnydays on November 9, 2006, at 9:11:02
In reply to Please, can someone answer this...., posted by muffled on November 9, 2006, at 1:08:17
((((((((muffy)))))))
I think what you are describing totally makes sense. I don't have parts, so I don't quite get that part of it, but I totally understand feeling like a little kid, wanting my T to comfort me. It is such a hard emotion, I can see why you wouldn't want to let her out. Can you send your T a fax about how you feel? Sometimes I just wrap myself up in a blanket and hug a stuffed animal when I feel like that. I don't know if that would help your little part come out?
Try to get some sleep, if you can. (((((muffy)))
sunnydays
Posted by Dinah on November 9, 2006, at 9:23:02
In reply to Please, can someone answer this...., posted by muffled on November 9, 2006, at 1:08:17
Could it be the seroquel as well?
I think all sorts of things are perfectly understandable once you know all the facts. But sometimes you're not aware in your conscious mind of all the facts, or how you're reacting, or why you're doing the things you're doing. (The latter has always been a huge issue for me.)
If you can manage to get in touch with that part of you and listen, you would probably have an ah-hah moment, and it would be perfectly understandable, given how that part of you is interpreting or understanding something.
Do you have ways of opening the channels of communication? I find stillness and imagining doors opening, or somehow opening the flow through my body, helps. Creative visualization. It creates the stillness where listening can happen. It's hard to listen when things are all confused and busy. Often when I'm in the bathtub letting the water run over my fingers, or dozing in a quiet place, the door to other levels of my consciousness will open and the answer to the question I've asked and left out there will just come. The answer often surprises me at first, then makes perfect sense when I think about it.
There's a quote from "A Series of Unfortunate Events" that I'd love to have worked up into needlework and hung somewhere in my home. Lemony Snicket might be quoting someone else, so forgive me for not properly attributing if that's the case. But it's "The world is quiet here." Do you have a place where the world is quiet?
Posted by muffled on November 9, 2006, at 11:25:08
In reply to Re: Please, can someone answer this.... » muffled, posted by SatinDoll on November 9, 2006, at 7:12:52
((((muffy))))
> By, the way, what you discribe sounds interesting and if you feel it, I am sure others do too. I think you are more normal than you think Muffy! ;-)**Thanks Satin :-)
My T says exactly the same thing, that I more normal than I think. But I don't got a clue what 'normal' is?
I just know I feel like a freak, cuz other people seem to get thru life and be good, but I seem to have all these weirdnessess of mine.
Muffly
Posted by muffled on November 9, 2006, at 11:30:15
In reply to Re: Please, can someone answer this.... » muffled, posted by sunnydays on November 9, 2006, at 9:11:02
> ((((((((muffy)))))))
**:-) Thanks Sunny
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> I think what you are describing totally makes sense. I don't have parts, so I don't quite get that part of it, but I totally understand feeling like a little kid, wanting my T to comfort me. It is such a hard emotion, I can see why you wouldn't want to let her out. Can you send your T a fax about how you feel? Sometimes I just wrap myself up in a blanket and hug a stuffed animal when I feel like that. I don't know if that would help your little part come out?
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> Try to get some sleep, if you can. (((((muffy)))Thanks. Yeah, I need to sleep better. Was almost late getting kids to school.
One thing I figgered at last T session is that 'I' am afraid to let kid out too :-(
NOBODY really wants to let that poor kid express herself :-(
'Cept my T :-) Good T.
Its not so easy this stuff...
Thanks,
Muffled
Posted by Lindenblüte on November 9, 2006, at 11:39:08
In reply to Re: Please, can someone answer this.... » sunnydays, posted by muffled on November 9, 2006, at 11:30:15
Hi Muffled
I think your reactions to the world are pretty normal too. They just feel strange because therapy has made you more aware of how the mind works at so many different levels.What do you mean by ego-states? I don't know what that is.
I'm sorry you're hurting right now. confused because you want something, but you're not sure if that's the "right thing" to want. Not sure if you want comfort, or you just want to feel free to let something out.
Are you worried that if you ask for something and get it, that you won't be satisfied and that will be even worse feeling than if you had never asked in the first place?
I have that problem a lot. I think I WANT something, but after I get it, I just feel even worse, because it didn't fill the hole, and now there is even a bigger gap between comfort and suffering.
Well, whatever happens I think you'll be okay- just talk through the conflict and you might be surprised at what your T can help you learn.
Hope you sleep okay tonight.
-Li
Posted by muffled on November 9, 2006, at 11:40:39
In reply to Re: Please, can someone answer this.... » muffled, posted by Dinah on November 9, 2006, at 9:23:02
> Could it be the seroquel as well?
**Stopped the seroquel. Not going to take zoloft either right now. Too hard to get on to it. Not a good time.
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> I think all sorts of things are perfectly understandable once you know all the facts. But sometimes you're not aware in your conscious mind of all the facts, or how you're reacting, or why you're doing the things you're doing. (The latter has always been a huge issue for me.)**EXACTLY. I go nuts trying to understand...
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> If you can manage to get in touch with that part of you and listen, you would probably have an ah-hah moment, and it would be perfectly understandable, given how that part of you is interpreting or understanding something.***I have had alot of those moments. They are so nice. But not with this particular kid.
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> Do you have ways of opening the channels of communication? I find stillness and imagining doors opening, or somehow opening the flow through my body, helps. Creative visualization. The answer often surprises me at first, then makes perfect sense when I think about it.**GOOD idea. My T did try to do that with me, but I get too weirded out when theres other people around. Dunno why?
But alone....I could mebbe do this. Then if theres tears (which are taboo), then it don't matter, cuz I the only one there.
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> There's a quote from "A Series of Unfortunate Events" But it's "The world is quiet here." Do you have a place where the world is quiet?***Thats SO lovely Dinah. I DO have my cave. But that inside kid I having trouble with isn't really welcome there. But my T made a cool mossy place where she can be active, as she not good at being still. Thats about as quiet as she gets, unless she sooooooooooooooo sad. Then she just hunches over and fades.
Thanks Dinah.
Take care,
Muffled
Posted by muffled on November 9, 2006, at 11:54:48
In reply to Re: Please, can someone answer this.... » muffled, posted by Lindenblüte on November 9, 2006, at 11:39:08
> What do you mean by ego-states? I don't know what that is.
**Thats the different people inside. Like lotsa babblers talk bout their kid parts. Those are ego states. Parts of oneself, that got interrupted, split off, and never grew up. Often there are ones that hold stuff, so the rest of oneself don't have to deal with it. Its a form of dissociation. And of course, the degree of splitting, exists on a continuum. So there can be all degrees of splitting. From slightly, to full blown DID.
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> I'm sorry you're hurting right now. confused because you want something, but you're not sure if that's the "right thing" to want. Not sure if you want comfort, or you just want to feel free to let something out.**I think I want/need to allow this kid to be comforted so she will LEAVE ME ALONE. And not ongoingly cause trouble.
My T has done good work. I don't do the crazy risky stuff I used to do. But I still hurt.
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> Are you worried that if you ask for something and get it, that you won't be satisfied and that will be even worse feeling than if you had never asked in the first place?***Hmmm. Interesting question. I dunno. I'm not much for asking. I don't expect anything. I don't think. But at this point, who the hell knows. I sure don't.
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> I have that problem a lot. I think I WANT something, but after I get it, I just feel even worse, because it didn't fill the hole, and now there is even a bigger gap between comfort and suffering.**(((((LI))))))
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> Well, whatever happens I think you'll be okay- just talk through the conflict and you might be surprised at what your T can help you learn.***Yeah. I got a real good T. Cept she patted me on the shoulder. Which got some part of me mad. And now I goto figger THAT out.
But I sent her a fax that told her not to touch me. But mebbe its OK. And I hope I didn't make her feel bad. Cuz for some bizzare reason I think she likes me. Even though I nuts.
Sh*t.
Why do I have to make evry thing so complicated?
Muffled
Posted by SatinDoll on November 9, 2006, at 12:27:24
In reply to Re: Please, can someone answer this.... » SatinDoll, posted by muffled on November 9, 2006, at 11:25:08
Hi Muffy!
You know what?
One thing that I have learned over the past year is that everyone has something that makes them feel weird about themselves. I mean EVERYONE! Just not everyone talks about it, so believe me you are just more honest than others, howz that!!!
And people who you think are living so great, they just haven't told you what makes them feel weird. So relax! Besides anyone who claims they are normal just haven't been dianogced yet! ;-) (I can't spell worth sh*t)
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