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Posted by beardedlady on February 10, 2003, at 14:20:44
In reply to Re: depression - just snap out of it !-Beardy, posted by LA on February 10, 2003, at 13:15:59
LA:
The dinner party was in a state she calls 'sconsin. And she never mentioned the box theory, but she has a close friend named LA. (I didn't tell you before because I didn't want to scare you.)
Weird, eh? Is this a parallel universe, or is there a lot of synchronicity happening?
I was at a friend's house last night. The friend has the same birthday as my sister. Another friend was over who shares that birthday. The girlfriend of the friend has a mother born the same day as my mother. Just coinkydinks.
beardy
Posted by noa on February 10, 2003, at 17:13:38
In reply to state stuff » LA, posted by beardedlady on February 10, 2003, at 14:20:44
Posted by beardedlady on February 12, 2003, at 6:51:30
In reply to Re: depression - just snap out of it !-Beardy, posted by LA on February 10, 2003, at 13:15:59
Posted by LA on February 12, 2003, at 21:44:38
In reply to Uh-oh, did I scare you off? (nm) » LA, posted by beardedlady on February 12, 2003, at 6:51:30
Hi beardy,
No, not at all. Just a few days of craze.
Your friend said Sconsin, not the same state. I was in NY. I guess I'm not the same LA. Not that we really thought I was but it was quite a coincidence. Though I really don't believe in coincidences. I do believe everything happens for a reason and that most of us are connected in some way. All those birthdays that was interesting too.
Your psychic friend, did she always know she was psychic? I'd love to meet a really good one.
I had a pretty good day today. Figures. Tommorrow I start cutting my med back until I hit o. I'm a little uneasy after reading all the posts regarding withdrawl symtoms. So wish me luck which is something I don't currently have.
LA
Posted by LA on February 12, 2003, at 21:56:29
In reply to Re: What is Box Theory? (nm), posted by noa on February 10, 2003, at 17:13:38
Noa,
The box theory, just my way of describing someone telling me to get out of the box or I would become depressed. This person thought I was keeping myself in a box and that it would lead to depression. See my earlier post.
There really is no Box Theory, just my own terminology.
Posted by beardedlady on February 13, 2003, at 7:03:07
In reply to Re: Uh-oh, did I scare you off? Beardy, posted by LA on February 12, 2003, at 21:44:38
Take the med reduction slowly, very slowly. Withdrawal really shouldn't happen when you reduce a fragment at a time for a week or two at a time. It takes a long time that way, but it's worth it.
My psychic friend has always had gifts. She's a massage therapist and healer. I don't believe in energy work at all, but she is magic. I was pregnant once, and she gave me a message. She did some energy work on my stomach, and I had a miscarriage the next day. I'd have blamed her, but I thanked her instead. The sonogram showed the embryo had never developed beyond eight weeks, and I was ten weeks pregnant. I was carrying a dead embryo.
Sorry to be so morbid.
When I first got chronic insomnia, she did some work on me. She held my feet and repeated a phrase that she was getting from me. I had no idea what she was talking about and tried to interpret it.
When I got home, there was an e-mail from a client. The e-mail said, "We're not there yet." My friend's phrase was, "You're not there yet." The job I was working on was for a travel/tour company. The headline was, "Are We There Yet?" She had absolutely no way of knowing about this, but the job was pestering me, as I'd been working on it for a month, and, because I didn't attribute the cause of my sleeplessness to work (since so much else was going on), I hadn't even thought about the job when she said the phrase to me.
I don't believe in coincidence either. I think it's all synchronicity.
Beardy : )>
Posted by noa on February 13, 2003, at 19:03:21
In reply to Re: What is Box Theory? » noa, posted by LA on February 12, 2003, at 21:56:29
Thanks, LA. "Box Theory" had a great ring to it, though!
Posted by LA on February 13, 2003, at 20:12:31
In reply to psychics and weaning » LA, posted by beardedlady on February 13, 2003, at 7:03:07
> Take the med reduction slowly, very slowly. Withdrawal really shouldn't happen when you reduce a fragment at a time for a week or two at a time. It takes a long time that way, but it's worth it.
>
> My psychic friend has always had gifts. She's a massage therapist and healer. I don't believe in energy work at all, but she is magic. I was pregnant once, and she gave me a message. She did some energy work on my stomach, and I had a miscarriage the next day. I'd have blamed her, but I thanked her instead. The sonogram showed the embryo had never developed beyond eight weeks, and I was ten weeks pregnant. I was carrying a dead embryo.
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> Sorry to be so morbid.
>
> When I first got chronic insomnia, she did some work on me. She held my feet and repeated a phrase that she was getting from me. I had no idea what she was talking about and tried to interpret it.
>
> When I got home, there was an e-mail from a client. The e-mail said, "We're not there yet." My friend's phrase was, "You're not there yet." The job I was working on was for a travel/tour company. The headline was, "Are We There Yet?" She had absolutely no way of knowing about this, but the job was pestering me, as I'd been working on it for a month, and, because I didn't attribute the cause of my sleeplessness to work (since so much else was going on), I hadn't even thought about the job when she said the phrase to me.
>
> I don't believe in coincidence either. I think it's all synchronicity.
>
> Beardy : )>Beardy,
Your not going to believe this. I had to re read your post quite a few times.
The acquaintance / psychic I was at the dinner party with the other night also considers herself a healer, who does reflexology, massage and riki ( not sure of the sp ).
This past summer I was at a party which she attended. At the party I announced to my friends ( who had been asking for weeks ) I was pregnant, (after years of infertility this was my last attempt thru IVF at getting pregnant).She was doing reflexology and healing at the party. I didn't feel very good , and she offered to work on me. To make a long story short about 2 weeks later I found out that I miscarried. The fetus had stopped growing about 2 weeks eariler.
P.S I didn't think you were morbid
LA
Posted by beardedlady on February 14, 2003, at 6:08:39
In reply to Re: psychics beardy, coincidence we don't believe » beardedlady, posted by LA on February 13, 2003, at 20:12:31
So in your case, do you blame her for your miscarriage, or do you think she helped expel it?
Weird.
But it's not so unusual that they are both "healers." I mean, if you're psychic, that's usually the job you choose (unless you are faux psychic, and then you get to be famous). I also think those who enjoy helping people tend to be the most in tune with others' feelings and thoughts. They seem to be listening harder. Know what I mean?
beardy
Posted by snowden on February 16, 2003, at 17:51:41
In reply to Re: depression - just snap out of it ! » dreamerz, posted by LA on February 6, 2003, at 22:43:29
Don't you just love it when people say...
"why can't you just be happy?"
Gee, why didn't I think of that...
or
"just smile!"
Smack myself in the head, there's my cure!!
sorry, just had to add my two cents...
Posted by LA on February 16, 2003, at 23:37:48
In reply to morbid » LA, posted by beardedlady on February 14, 2003, at 6:08:39
> So in your case, do you blame her for your miscarriage, or do you think she helped expel it?
>
> Weird.
>
> But it's not so unusual that they are both "healers." I mean, if you're psychic, that's usually the job you choose (unless you are faux psychic, and then you get to be famous). I also think those who enjoy helping people tend to be the most in tune with others' feelings and thoughts. They seem to be listening harder. Know what I mean?
>
> beardyNo, I don't blame her. I believe everything happens for a reason, so it wasn't suppose to happen for me.
I do know what you mean , that's a very good way to put it , that they are listening harder.
I'm looking forward to tommorrow. It's great when a state of emergency is issued, you don't have to think about a reason not to leave your house. A blizzard is a pretty good reason on it's own.
Posted by LA on February 17, 2003, at 12:56:17
In reply to Re: my favorites - LOL, posted by snowden on February 16, 2003, at 17:51:41
> Don't you just love it when people say...
>
> "why can't you just be happy?"
>
> Gee, why didn't I think of that...
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> or
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> "just smile!"
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> Smack myself in the head, there's my cure!!
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> sorry, just had to add my two cents...Okay now I'm sorry too, but I couldn't resist.
"You look so much better when you smile now don't you feel better too."
Oh yeah that does it for me.
Posted by bozeman on February 17, 2003, at 19:29:59
In reply to Re: depression - just snap out of it !, posted by LA on February 9, 2003, at 19:59:13
. . . > This is all probably coming from the dinner party I went to last night. I was having an okay day I thought. A friend or I should say an acquaintance who was unfortunaltey seated next to me for the ten course dinner told me she was psychic and could read me. She said that I really needed to get out of my box. And if I didn't get out of my box I could become very depressed. It was all up to me to get out of the damn box. I hope it was at least a Tiffanys box she was referring to. This is when a bottle of wine can really make a difference.Okay I am rambling. Does anyone else have this problem? no not the rambling one.
> LA
>OK, I just have to get this off my chest. If that woman was *really* psychic, she'd have seen how much inner pain you were in, and how hard you were trying to hide it so as to not be a "party pooper", and would have responded empathetically . . . gently trying to make you smile, instead of childishly bragging about her "gift" . . .
Sometimes I just can't *stand* people whose method of self-validation is to believe they have a secret or are somehow better than everyone else. Unfortunately I know a couple of "psychics" like that and they just make sorry for them, that they really believe so deeply their own delusions.
Then I know a lady who really does have an amazing gift -- psychic or not, I don't know or really care, I just know it works -- for knowing what's up with people and when they need her. If you ask her directly she can tell you things you thought no one else could possibly know about you, but she never "volunteers" anything, just tries to be supportive of people and help them deal with their inner pain. Someone like her, would be worth sitting next to at a dinner party.
I'm so sorry you ended up sitting next to this sadly clueless woman. Like you needed that on top of everything else going on. Hope you didn't let it get you down . . . at least, not for long . . . .
OK, through venting now . . . honest . . .
:-)
bozeman
Posted by snowden on February 17, 2003, at 19:53:38
In reply to Re: my favorites - LOL, posted by LA on February 17, 2003, at 12:56:17
Posted by noa on February 18, 2003, at 10:48:59
In reply to Re: depression - just snap out of it !, posted by bozeman on February 17, 2003, at 19:29:59
Or maybe if she was really psychic, she would have known you were probably thinking something like, "oh, god, I'm stuck next to this psychic lady for the entire meal. Why do I come to these dinner parties???? AARRGGHH. Hmm...now where's the wine?"
Posted by noa on February 18, 2003, at 10:50:16
In reply to Re: depression - just snap out of it !, posted by noa on February 18, 2003, at 10:48:59
Oh, and Bozeman, I loved the Tiffany's box thought!!
Posted by sjb on February 18, 2003, at 12:16:50
In reply to Re: my favorites - LOL, posted by snowden on February 16, 2003, at 17:51:41
Posted by bozeman on February 18, 2003, at 21:22:07
In reply to Re: depression - just snap out of it ! PS--LOL, posted by noa on February 18, 2003, at 10:50:16
> Oh, and Bozeman, I loved the Tiffany's box thought!!
I liked it too. Hey, if ya gotta be in a box, why not go in style?
For that matter, if people are gonna call you crazy anyway, why not shock the pants off 'em?
OK, maybe not such a great idea, but a fun thought.
:-)
Posted by LA on February 19, 2003, at 13:11:05
In reply to Re: depression - just snap out of it !, posted by noa on February 18, 2003, at 10:48:59
> Or maybe if she was really psychic, she would have known you were probably thinking something like, "oh, god, I'm stuck next to this psychic lady for the entire meal. Why do I come to these dinner parties???? AARRGGHH. Hmm...now where's the wine?"
Hey I was thinking your right. If she really knew what was going on with me she would have just handed me the bottle of wine, that is while she was discussing the entire box theory.
Posted by LA on February 19, 2003, at 13:19:10
In reply to Re: depression - just snap out of it ! PS--LOL » noa, posted by bozeman on February 18, 2003, at 21:22:07
> > Oh, and Bozeman, I loved the Tiffany's box thought!!
>
> I liked it too. Hey, if ya gotta be in a box, why not go in style?
>
> For that matter, if people are gonna call you crazy anyway, why not shock the pants off 'em?
>
> OK, maybe not such a great idea, but a fun thought.
>
> :-)
>
> No, Bozeman I think it is a great idea. And could be lots of fun too. Seems like I don't have much fun anymore. But I do have a very off sense of humor somewhere . . . and another (2) parties this weekend. Have any shocking ideas?
: ))
Posted by beardedlady on February 19, 2003, at 14:18:20
In reply to Re: depression - just snap out of it ! PS--LOL, posted by LA on February 19, 2003, at 13:19:10
See our thread at the bottom. Blacken your teeth or make them rotten looking, and any time someone asks what's wrong, say, "Nothing, why?" and smile real big!
beardy : )>
Posted by noa on February 21, 2003, at 8:02:32
In reply to Re: depression - just snap out of it ! PS--LOL, posted by LA on February 19, 2003, at 13:19:10
OOps, sorry, LA. I guess it was you I should have addressed the tiffany box response to!
Posted by bozeman on February 22, 2003, at 11:31:51
In reply to Re: depression - just snap out of it ! PS--LOL » LA, posted by noa on February 21, 2003, at 8:02:32
Yes, but no. You were directing to a different poster, yes, but it was something I needed to hear and entertain in a more personal way, so I think you were "nudged" to send it to me instead. If you're interested in why, see last night's post on PB to EGR, for relevance about how "box" theory needed to be brought to my attention.
Oftentimes things work out the way they are supposed to, I think. And I am still floored by how many different things are coming together in my mind, of things I need to fix and how to do it, as a result of your relatively straightforward but deeply insightful comments.
One of the worst parts of this illness, for me at least, is that over time it robs you of your "good" habits and coping skills. Even when free of the primary depression/obsessiveness etc., you *still* have to go back and "rewire" your life, on so many levels. Our interchange has somehow, miraculously, made me able to see (where I only saw smoke before) the hows and whys of the parts I need to rebuild first. Funny how when you're ready to do it, the answers somehow find you. :-)
Thanks again for your insights. Still working on putting it all together. More to come as I continue to work it out.
bozeman
Posted by tackleme on February 27, 2003, at 21:46:37
In reply to Re: depression - just snap out of it ! » dreamerz, posted by LA on February 6, 2003, at 22:43:29
I find that my biggest challenge is dealing with my ultra-conservative Christian wife. She thinks my depression is the work of satan and has taken me to "excorcisms" at church. When I am really down she grabs me and prays that the demons that "I am inviting into my life" must leave and that I have to pray harder, read the bible more, have more faith. She insisted that I see a Christian counsellor who seems to side with her in that my depression is a result of something *I* am doing and if I change my behavior my depression will go away. I am lost in dealing with her and would appreciate any and all advice.
thanks.
Posted by bozeman on February 27, 2003, at 23:46:53
In reply to Re: depression - just snap out of it !, posted by tackleme on February 27, 2003, at 21:46:37
Hi tackleme --
I'm sorry you're not feeling supported at home in this area. I have a good friend who sometimes treats me similarly, who is otherwise very helpful. I will be happy to discuss this with you and offer advice and support, and you can of course take what you like and leave the rest. But it may be a couple of days, I am absolutely exhausted right now and need to sleep for a week (only a slight exaggeration. :-)
I just didn't want you to feel alone with this, because you are definitely not. Try to hang in there, don't let anyone make you feel bad for being sick! We'll "babble" more soon.
BTW-- there's an interesting discussion about ECT (electroconvulsive therapy) going on over on the Social Babble board. You might check it out if you're interested in learning more of others' experiences. Here's the link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20030215/msgs/201088.htmlBe well, my friend
bozeman
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