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Posted by Jost on November 17, 2006, at 1:08:19
The question of whether to start emsam again is driving me to distraction. I really want to start as soon as possible, because it's beginning to feel as if it'll never happen. I can't even imagine it's working any more-- it seems more like a fluke, or illusion.
So I almost feel as if there' sno point in trying it again. And almost that it's my heart rate is never going to get stable enough to do it. And also that I'm not sure I"ve not interpreting tiny flutuations in rhythm as signs of tachycardia, and palpitatons or PVCs (preventribular contractions)--which make the rhythm unstable.
None of it, even at the level that I had it, is serious, although it could in some rare case lead to something serious. But my pdoc had me go off Emsam, beause it's stimulatind and might have caused it-- although later we realized it was probably something else I was taking, either alone or in combination with the Emsam.
I"m not feeling well. I'll finish tomorrow.
Jost
Posted by Declan on November 17, 2006, at 13:39:28
In reply to Emsam and heart, posted by Jost on November 17, 2006, at 1:08:19
So you're reasonably sure it was that other thing?
Posted by Jost on November 17, 2006, at 15:22:55
In reply to Re: Emsam and heart, posted by Declan on November 17, 2006, at 13:39:28
Very sure. It's a well-known. but not well publicized reaction to the other drug-- which just is also known to stop very slowly.
It's diminished very very gradually since I stopped the other drug (and a bunch of other drugs, too). It's one of those reactions that a lot of drugs can cause synergistically with the originating drug-- like claritin was making it worse, and also one night I drank some wine and, after having been quite dormant for four or five days, it went back to how it had been a couple of weeks before. It got much better, the next day but little things like that have also slowed things. Same thing happened one night with Chinese food and a spice my SigO uses sometimes in cooking-- but there isn't any food prohibition with the Emsam (esp. two months after you've stopped taking it--) so I don't think there's any chance it was that.
If you check a lot of drugs, you do see arrhythmia down on the list of many uncommon, but extant, reactions.
There might have been a synergistic reaction with the Emsam-- but if it were primarily the Emsam, I'd be long over it.
But, for example, I stopped also provigil, and a lot of other things-- except xanax and ambien--luckily.
I really do wonder if I'll have the same reaction to the Emsam. It was the best I've ever felt pretty much-- of course maybe it was a weird coincidence-- or fluke.
I'd really recommend Emsam, though, if you can get it. If you fiddle around enough with the valium and other sleep aids, you might be able to get a lot from it. When I got too much Emsam, I felt a bit agitated-- but I reduced the size of the patch, and that resolved that.
Also, as I mentioned, I did take the patch off when I went to sleep. I often woke up at some point, and took Sonata (a short- half life sleep med), put the patch on and got back to sleep. Seemed to take the Emsam long enough to really get going, that I got about the same sleep as without it--
Something to think about, even with deprenyl, if you had a good reaction.
Jost
Posted by Phillipa on November 17, 2006, at 21:24:24
In reply to Re: Emsam and heart » Declan, posted by Jost on November 17, 2006, at 15:22:55
Jost are you really thinking of trying EMSAM again? I still want to try it. But it seemed as if it failed in most posters . The insomnia and anxiety are what stopped me as I'm already on valium. Do you think there is a chance? Love Phillipa
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