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Posted by bruin on February 1, 2005, at 18:56:46
Exercise for Depression Rivals Drugs, Therapy
Wednesday, January 26, 2005
By Miranda Hitti
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,145487,00.html
Imagine a depression treatment (search) that soothed the mind and emotions,
protected the heart and zapped away excess weight - without side effects.Sound too good to be true? It's not. Such a remedy already exists, and it
doesn't come in a pill bottle, say experts from the University of Texas
Southwestern Medical Center.
Aerobic exercise can make a big difference in mild to moderate depression,
say Andrea Dunn, PhD, and colleagues in the American Journal of Preventive
Medicine's January edition.The researchers found that 30-minute aerobic workouts of moderate intensity,
done three to five times weekly, cut mild to moderate depression symptoms
nearly in half. That's comparable to other depression treatments, say
researchers.Depression Common, Treatment Rare
In any given year, nearly 19 million adults in America have a depressive
illness, says the National Institute of Mental Health. That's more than 9
percent of the population.
Many suffer silently, not getting treatment that could help.Only 23 percent of depressed people seek treatment and just 10 percent
receive adequate treatment. That's partly due to social stigma associated
with treatment, say the researchers.
Posted by heroin on February 1, 2005, at 18:56:47
In reply to I wish I would have known this a long time ago, posted by bruin on January 30, 2005, at 0:54:42
Yeah, and I wished I had done this instead of the medicine.
Posted by Phillipa on February 1, 2005, at 18:56:47
In reply to Re: I wish I would have known this a long time ago, posted by heroin on January 30, 2005, at 6:03:41
Even with aerobic excercise, I still need meds. Only problem is none seem to work as of yet. Phillipa PS I usually walk 5 miles on the beach daily.
Posted by Iansf on February 1, 2005, at 18:56:47
In reply to I wish I would have known this a long time ago, posted by bruin on January 30, 2005, at 0:54:42
I did at least 30 minutes of aerobic exercise every day for 10 years, along with weights., and it never did anything to alleviate my depression. No matter how down I felt, I made myself go to the gym, but the only time I left feeling any better than when I went in was when I was already feeling good to begin with. If I was down, I stayed down. Perhaps it does help some people, but definitely not me.
> Exercise for Depression Rivals Drugs, Therapy
> Wednesday, January 26, 2005
> By Miranda Hitti
> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,145487,00.html
>
>
>
>
> Imagine a depression treatment (search) that soothed the mind and emotions,
> protected the heart and zapped away excess weight - without side effects.
>
> Sound too good to be true? It's not. Such a remedy already exists, and it
> doesn't come in a pill bottle, say experts from the University of Texas
> Southwestern Medical Center.
> Aerobic exercise can make a big difference in mild to moderate depression,
> say Andrea Dunn, PhD, and colleagues in the American Journal of Preventive
> Medicine's January edition.
>
> The researchers found that 30-minute aerobic workouts of moderate intensity,
> done three to five times weekly, cut mild to moderate depression symptoms
> nearly in half. That's comparable to other depression treatments, say
> researchers.
>
> Depression Common, Treatment Rare
>
> In any given year, nearly 19 million adults in America have a depressive
> illness, says the National Institute of Mental Health. That's more than 9
> percent of the population.
> Many suffer silently, not getting treatment that could help.
>
> Only 23 percent of depressed people seek treatment and just 10 percent
> receive adequate treatment. That's partly due to social stigma associated
> with treatment, say the researchers.
>
>
Posted by bruin on February 1, 2005, at 18:56:47
In reply to Re: I wish I would have known this a long time ago, posted by Iansf on January 31, 2005, at 1:31:09
Exercise is one of the few things that makes me feel good. All medications have done is give me brain damage.
> I did at least 30 minutes of aerobic exercise every day for 10 years, along with weights., and it never did anything to alleviate my depression. No matter how down I felt, I made myself go to the gym, but the only time I left feeling any better than when I went in was when I was already feeling good to begin with. If I was down, I stayed down. Perhaps it does help some people, but definitely not me.
>
> > Exercise for Depression Rivals Drugs, Therapy
> > Wednesday, January 26, 2005
> > By Miranda Hitti
> > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,145487,00.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Imagine a depression treatment (search) that soothed the mind and emotions,
> > protected the heart and zapped away excess weight - without side effects.
> >
> > Sound too good to be true? It's not. Such a remedy already exists, and it
> > doesn't come in a pill bottle, say experts from the University of Texas
> > Southwestern Medical Center.
> > Aerobic exercise can make a big difference in mild to moderate depression,
> > say Andrea Dunn, PhD, and colleagues in the American Journal of Preventive
> > Medicine's January edition.
> >
> > The researchers found that 30-minute aerobic workouts of moderate intensity,
> > done three to five times weekly, cut mild to moderate depression symptoms
> > nearly in half. That's comparable to other depression treatments, say
> > researchers.
> >
> > Depression Common, Treatment Rare
> >
> > In any given year, nearly 19 million adults in America have a depressive
> > illness, says the National Institute of Mental Health. That's more than 9
> > percent of the population.
> > Many suffer silently, not getting treatment that could help.
> >
> > Only 23 percent of depressed people seek treatment and just 10 percent
> > receive adequate treatment. That's partly due to social stigma associated
> > with treatment, say the researchers.
> >
> >
>
>
Posted by Willyee on February 1, 2005, at 18:56:47
In reply to I wish I would have known this a long time ago, posted by bruin on January 30, 2005, at 0:54:42
Excersise is good for your over all health,blood pressure cholestrol,heart and yeah the brain.
Can it help,im sure it makes one feel better to know they are living healther,that may be the pyscho part of it.
But however,if we are to believe that emotional disorders are some form of bio-chemical mishap,then like any other disease i wouldent see excersise replacing medicine.
I have lifted weights since age 16,at 26 still do,even weak i can press 300 pounds by what seems like habbit,i have incredable staminia.
This is how i was pre depression....and how it is now,and i never stopped working out.
Working out seems to be what "normal" people say to people with emotional disorders,its right there with "come on,go out be social snap out of it"
Yeah a good night out with friends might lift a mood for a day or two,but over all as much as i hate typing it,doesent do anything permananent.
That anxiety/depression/maniac/racing state of mind always returns.
Like i said i think its great to excersise,not only will it help you stay pyshicaly healthy,but if you dont not liking how you look or feel pyhscial can just agigitate depression,it sure dont help.I do however believe its harmful for people no one in particular but in general to encourage people to stop medication and just excersise.We are clueless whats going on,and if were even close to right,then a chemical misfunction of some sort in the brain is not a mild condition,you wouldent tell an epliteic patient to try stopping his meds work out,go out and keep his mind off his seizures,hes gonna have one regardless.
Now i dont feel my med is a med,but a drug,it is not curing anything,im not gonna one day say i think its gone now,and stop,like some kinda of rash cream.
When my drugs wear off,im sick again,so its tape,but i have gone without the tape,and without tape my life falls apart,so that tape comes in handy to keep everything togther,but its still tape,its not pretty and clean,its broken,with ugly masking tape,but the tape,its still needed and valuable.
P.S Maybe its me,but excersise increase adrenaline,i acutualy find after an excersise increase in anxiety,which is why i work out prior to taking meds,this way im not ruining them.But i find working out very agigtating to my condition,its looking good and recieving compliments thats a nice little lift :)I do find moving around helps,not excersise just chores around the house,keeping myself moving at a normal pace,laying down sometimes leads to a whole change in mood where i wont get back up.I dunno everyone is different i suppose.Im just not impressed with all these semi-obvious studies like better diet,postive thinking,excersing etc cures helps depression......uh ya if i dident have mind blowing anxiety i would be out socializing,im not choosing to hang out by myself,but this is a study needed to be done in colleges by teams of professionals?
Studys like this is why were getting no where,lets get some tests devolped,lets keep studying the differences we can see in an ill patient opposed to a healthy one,lets get some real answers,and maybe our kids wont have to carry a bottle of klonopin on them.
Posted by Cecilia on February 1, 2005, at 18:56:47
In reply to I wish I would have known this a long time ago, posted by bruin on January 30, 2005, at 0:54:42
I think you have to take studies touting the benefit of exercise for depression with a grain of salt for 2 reasons: one, they`re not double blind, obviously the person knows whether they`re exercising or not (though granted most drug studies are not really double blind either, most people know by the side effects whether they`re on the real drug or not) and two, the more depressed the person is to begin with the less likely they are to be able to make themselves complete the exercise study. Cecilia
Posted by Bill LL on February 1, 2005, at 18:56:47
In reply to Re: I wish I would have known this a long time ago, posted by Cecilia on February 1, 2005, at 3:00:39
I agree with the study that exercise may be better than meds for mild depression. Most people with mild depression don't take meds anyway.
Exercise can generally not replace medication in more serious cases of depression. But it can help people with their mood who are on AD's.
Posted by denise1904 on February 1, 2005, at 18:56:48
In reply to Re: I wish I would have known this a long time ago, posted by Willyee on February 1, 2005, at 0:11:15
Willyee,
Just wanted to say I agreed with everything you said, spot on.
Denise
Posted by Optimist on February 1, 2005, at 18:56:48
In reply to Re: I wish I would have known this a long time ago, posted by Cecilia on February 1, 2005, at 3:00:39
I believe exercise is a great way to help one get out of a mild depression. Just one of the tools to help relieve stress. I've had dysthymia for about 10 years though and have exercised all through it, so it's not a panacea.
I agree with what someone said earlier about it not helping much with more severe depressions. One usually does not have the energy to get out of bed let alone take a jog around the block.
Brian
Posted by Phillipa on February 1, 2005, at 18:56:48
In reply to Re: I wish I would have known this a long time ago, posted by Optimist on February 1, 2005, at 10:01:05
Yes, it used to help me when I was younger and could jog. Now, I can't jog so no "High". Even walking, I now have archilles tendonitis from. It stinks to get old! Phillipa
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