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Posted by mogger on December 28, 2013, at 19:26:08
In reply to Fear, Helplessness, Horror, posted by sigismund on December 28, 2013, at 19:21:48
Have you started it yet? N-Acetylglucosamine is working out. Anxiety has decreased big time and my arthritis pain is gone!
Posted by sigismund on December 29, 2013, at 15:37:16
In reply to Re: Fear, Helplessness, Horror » sigismund, posted by mogger on December 28, 2013, at 19:26:08
>N-Acetylglucosamine is working out. Anxiety has decreased big time and my arthritis pain is gone!
Well, I have arthritis (for which I am naturally prescribed nothing interesting, as I am not for feeling like screaming half the time). Apart from hoping cancer will come sooner rather than later hope eludes me.
Patience, patience.
No, hasn't arrived yet but I am curious.
So you think it is the acetyl group?
Posted by mogger on December 29, 2013, at 22:06:14
In reply to Re: Fear, Helplessness, Horror » mogger, posted by sigismund on December 29, 2013, at 15:37:16
I am not sure what it is. Wish I knew the mechanism of it. What exactly happens with the Acetyl group?
Posted by sigismund on December 30, 2013, at 15:13:15
In reply to Re: Fear, Helplessness, Horror » sigismund, posted by mogger on December 29, 2013, at 22:06:14
Know nuthin about em.
Have you taken acetyl l carnitine?
I have, without ill effect, at least when it wasn't too much. No more than 1g/d.
Posted by sigismund on December 30, 2013, at 15:18:15
In reply to Acetyl groups » mogger, posted by sigismund on December 30, 2013, at 15:13:15
I guess you know all this. I had never heard of acetylglucosamine, though I have taken glucosamine and natural arthritis things for many years.
http://altmedicine.about.com/od/glucosamine/a/N-Acetyl-Glucosamine.htm
Posted by sigismund on December 30, 2013, at 23:28:11
In reply to GABA, posted by sigismund on December 16, 2013, at 14:53:31
Took my first one.
Goodness I hope it works. Haven't been right at all.
Posted by mogger on December 30, 2013, at 23:32:49
In reply to Gastrodin, posted by sigismund on December 30, 2013, at 23:28:11
Be safe. Are you combining it with other meds?
Posted by sigismund on December 31, 2013, at 14:57:33
In reply to Re: Gastrodin » sigismund, posted by mogger on December 30, 2013, at 23:32:49
>Are you combining it with other meds?
Well, yes. In the sense that I am taking some Valium, which I would love to at least reduce.
It is interesting and promising.
Posted by Lamdage22 on January 1, 2014, at 12:42:40
In reply to Re: Gastrodin » mogger, posted by sigismund on December 31, 2013, at 14:57:33
Sigi, let us know how it goes.
Im on fishoil and NAC now. Gastrodin may be worth a shot.
Do you have any links for us to read on Gastrodin?
Julian
Posted by sigismund on January 1, 2014, at 16:36:24
In reply to Re: Gastrodin, posted by Lamdage22 on January 1, 2014, at 12:42:40
Yep
http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2013/ss2013_Broad-Spectrum-Protection-Against-Brain-Aging_01.htm
Promising, helpful and interesting, I think.
Cuts down the excessive desire to drink (as an escape). That feeling that can send you to the bottle shop to down 4oz of spirits in one gulp.
I was stuck on the couch for a couple of days with (I felt)a look of dumb suffering in my eyes which I rarely took from my book, set in Moscow in 1939, just to cheer me up.
Works straight away, like all proper chemicals.
Posted by mogger on January 1, 2014, at 17:29:35
In reply to Re: Gastrodin, posted by Lamdage22 on January 1, 2014, at 12:42:40
Julian there is a guy on babble who is on 100mgs of parnate so if it helps maybe you could go higher! Are you tapering seroquel?
Posted by Lamdage22 on January 3, 2014, at 4:29:57
In reply to Re: Gastrodin » Lamdage22, posted by mogger on January 1, 2014, at 17:29:35
> Julian there is a guy on babble who is on 100mgs of parnate so if it helps maybe you could go higher! Are you tapering seroquel?
Hi mogger, no im not tapering it. We wanna go off the Zyprexa, because it makes me lazy like crap.
Im considering to experiment with iboga now, so im not even pushing for them to upp the Moclobemide.
So Gastrodin is helpful against depression? I cant take NAC, it makes me really agressive so im back to EPA only.
Posted by Lamdage22 on January 3, 2014, at 10:42:59
In reply to Re: Gastrodin, posted by Lamdage22 on January 3, 2014, at 4:29:57
Hi Sigi,
where did you get your gastrodin from? I only find Gastrodia elata on the net, which is what gastrodin is extracted from i suppose.
What dosage are you taking? Are you taking Gastrodia elata or the isolated Gastrodin?
Posted by mogger on January 3, 2014, at 11:41:16
In reply to Re: Gastrodin, posted by Lamdage22 on January 3, 2014, at 4:29:57
Julian,
I thought your ticket was Parnate. Don't know what iboga is but I hope it doesn't interfere with your meds. I still am a proponent of you going on Parnate as you know it helps and the sooner you get on it the better but I don't know.
Joseph
Posted by Lamdage22 on January 3, 2014, at 11:46:23
In reply to Re: Gastrodin » Lamdage22, posted by mogger on January 3, 2014, at 11:41:16
Yes but the f*gg*t Dr sees a problem with combining Seroquel and Parnate. It really pisses me off.
The problem with Iboga is that it can cause prolonged QT interval. So does Seroquel and Zyprexa. Again pissing me off.
I cant find ANYTHING on LOW dose Iboga and if this still causes prolonged QT interval..
Anyway, im interested in Gastrodin now.
> Julian,
>
> I thought your ticket was Parnate. Don't know what iboga is but I hope it doesn't interfere with your meds. I still am a proponent of you going on Parnate as you know it helps and the sooner you get on it the better but I don't know.
>
> Joseph
Posted by sigismund on January 3, 2014, at 16:23:03
In reply to Re: Gastrodin @Sigi, posted by Lamdage22 on January 3, 2014, at 10:42:59
I get it from LEF whose IA is www.lef.org
Posted by sigismund on January 3, 2014, at 16:24:01
In reply to Re: Gastrodin @Sigi, posted by Lamdage22 on January 3, 2014, at 10:42:59
600mg gastrodin, which is the extract.
Half that would be effective for many.
Posted by Lamdage22 on January 4, 2014, at 4:27:27
In reply to Re: Gastrodin @Sigi, posted by sigismund on January 3, 2014, at 16:24:01
> 600mg gastrodin, which is the extract.
>
> Half that would be effective for many.Thanks Sigi. Life extension has a european branch.
Posted by justinfernandez on January 5, 2014, at 20:54:36
In reply to Re: Gastrodin @Sigi, posted by sigismund on January 3, 2014, at 16:24:01
Hey Sigismund,
My name is Justin. I hope you don't mind me eavesdropping in on your conversation about Gastrodin and its effects on GABA. The LEF article you cited is very interesting. I have a long history of general anxiety and chronic stress. I've had some success with Cyracos Lemon Balm extract, but am curious if Gastrodin may be more effective for me. The Cyracos Lemon Balm is an standardized extract which is known to inhibit GABA transaminase. I'm wondering if you have had any experience with Lemon Balm and if so how would you compare it to Gastrodin. Are you having any success with the LEF Brain Shield? Thanks.
Posted by sigismund on January 5, 2014, at 22:41:07
In reply to Re: Gastrodin @Sigi, posted by justinfernandez on January 5, 2014, at 20:54:36
Yep, no problem.
I like it. I also liked lemon balm but I needed to take a lot of that. Gastrodin feels stronger. I take 600mg a day.
Posted by mogger on January 5, 2014, at 23:24:51
In reply to Re: Gastrodin @Sigi, posted by sigismund on January 5, 2014, at 22:41:07
That is fantastic that you are being helped by it. What sort of effects specifically are you having?
Posted by sigismund on January 6, 2014, at 13:03:42
In reply to Re: Gastrodin @Sigi » sigismund, posted by mogger on January 5, 2014, at 23:24:51
>What sort of effects specifically are you having?
Improved sleep. Note that this may not apply at all doses; high doses might impair sleep in some.
A bit more calm. I took the opportunity to halve my benzo dose down to 7.5mg Valium, which was doable.
Posted by Lamdage22 on January 14, 2014, at 5:06:54
In reply to Re: Gastrodin @Sigi » sigismund, posted by mogger on January 5, 2014, at 23:24:51
Any news? Depression improved?
I started today.
Posted by Lamdage22 on January 14, 2014, at 13:45:38
In reply to Re: Gastrodin @Sigi, posted by Lamdage22 on January 14, 2014, at 5:06:54
Its probably too early, but i seem to be better and less suicidal.
This weekend including yesterday was VERY suicidal. Yesterday i started Gastrodin (BrainShield) and i feel better.
I actually feel like doing something (other than killing myself).
I hope it will stick.
Sigi, what can you (or sb. else) say about effectiveness for mood?
Posted by sigismund on January 16, 2014, at 16:04:14
In reply to Gastrodin anyone?, posted by Lamdage22 on January 14, 2014, at 13:45:38
>Sigi, what can you (or sb. else) say about effectiveness for mood?
Well, it could calm you down a bit though I doubt it would help with mood other than that. For me it seemed like a good bet and I will continue with it.
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