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Posted by Hombre on October 17, 2012, at 5:41:49
In reply to Provigil?, posted by Christ_empowered on October 8, 2012, at 12:04:20
Hey folks,
I have been relatively stable on Effexor 150mg morning, Remeron 30mg and Seroquel 100mg at night, for maybe almost two years?
But it's been real rough otherwise and there have been period of depression, but nothing so bad as it could be sans meds.
I recently got some provigil samples, I've taken it twice and definitely feel awake and focused, slight anorexia/lack of appetite, very subtle effects on perceived physical energy, but the mind is definitely clear and sharp.
Seroquel is needed to put a cap on anxiety and insomnia and general quasi bipolar II symptoms, but it also makes me gain some weight and sit on my *ss.
I cam drink lots of caffeine and I carely feel it cuz of da 'quel, but if I don't take it, which I have done because of money issues, I will slowly become locked into anxiety, the kind where I can't seem to move to take care of scary stuff.
Anyway, the lesson is always to start with the meds and the basics, eating and sleeping and moving around, and then go from there.
I forget that I need to be disciplined always to take my meds, my vitamins, to eat enough food so I have energy. It's easy to think energy should come from a pill or something, but without the raw fuel, you may feel worse trying to drug yourself to get energy. Just a warning, you know yourself better than I :)
I accidentally took too much at first because of a misunderstanding on my part, about 800mg, which is probably bad, but I think w/the 'quel and the apparent mildness of this drug, I am awake and in a good mood, I found myself walking a bit fast, but nothing that will keep me awake or cause nervousness, the 'quel and the remeron is the stone cold KO I need to sleep every night.
God bless, educate yourself, but what's more important is that you believe that you can get well, that you deserve it, and that you won't quit until you find what works for you.
In the meantime, you will learn a lot about yourself, and that is probably the #1 key, being honest with yourself but not critical or judgemental....see, the conscious mind criticizes things, but the subconscious accepts anything.
So what you think and how your attitude is, even if you're bedbound and basically suicidal, where I've spent enough time myself, you must leave a small door open to possibilities that you are not conscious of.
And if you are mentally ill, you really can't trust your mind, because the mind can hurt the body and vice versa.
So believe, have faith, but do it sincerely and with all your heart, forget your mind, you can't trust it, and buddha and all those wise guys are saying the same thing.
You can't think yourself out of your illness is what I'm saying, but you can try things and be patient, but try new things, because that gives hope.
Every new med trial try to "clear previous history" in your mind, like a web-browser, and go in with a beginner's mind and trust and faith that it could work.
Your subconscious might surprise you, but then you'll feel that your instincts were right in the first place. Instinct = subconscious, it's real even though science doesn't go there.
Again, good luck and be persistent, and don't set the bar so high for yourself, just make sure you are eating something and sleeping somewhat, I know sometimes it's just hell, but the only thing that matters is that you keep on *your* path and see it to the end.
Just keep that possibility alive, even if you can't believe in anything, this proactive mindset and attitude will guide you where you *need* to go, maybe not where you *want* to go, but see it through to the end! I know you can!
Peace.
Hombre
Posted by Lao Tzu on October 17, 2012, at 10:39:39
In reply to Re: Provigil, posted by Hombre on October 17, 2012, at 5:41:49
Nice to hear from you again, Hombre. Wise words, indeed. Mindfulness is very powerful if you know how to do it. I have the same problem with coffee, i.e. caffeine. It doesn't do a whole lot for me. Provigil used to work like a charm. It is better than coffee, but for some reason, after the psychosis, the Provigil (even at 400mg/d) did not work as well. Instead, I use carefully formulated dosages of vitamins for extra energy, and it has taken a long time to formulate a regimen I am happy with, but it was worth it. I do feel a lot less depressed these days, and am more than happy to share my results with the rest of you out there desperate for some measure of comfort. Thanks again for your insightful posts. Having a positive attitude counts for a lot, and it helps the depression.
Lao
Posted by test_subject_99 on October 18, 2012, at 11:37:33
In reply to Re: Provigil, posted by Lao Tzu on October 17, 2012, at 10:39:39
> Nice to hear from you again, Hombre. Wise words, indeed. Mindfulness is very powerful if you know how to do it. I have the same problem with coffee, i.e. caffeine. It doesn't do a whole lot for me. Provigil used to work like a charm. It is better than coffee, but for some reason, after the psychosis, the Provigil (even at 400mg/d) did not work as well. Instead, I use carefully formulated dosages of vitamins for extra energy, and it has taken a long time to formulate a regimen I am happy with, but it was worth it. I do feel a lot less depressed these days, and am more than happy to share my results with the rest of you out there desperate for some measure of comfort. Thanks again for your insightful posts. Having a positive attitude counts for a lot, and it helps the depression.
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> LaoDITTO! I've nothing to add, just wanna say what a great post from Hombre!
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