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lar and ray..i'm interested in trying this to gain

Posted by joebob on November 10, 2004, at 20:55:28

weight

http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic2/cyprohept.htm

am waiting on some keto sticks to check for ketones re: beta cells and diabetes

wonder if testing glucose with one of those monitors would be helpful in ruling out the diabetes?

i got the idea to try this med from a post last year on pb

still need to gain weight, no appetite

more for ray later, and larry always more than welcome to help

opinions appreciated warmly

Re: lar and ray..i'm interested in trying this to gain » joebob

Posted by raybakes on November 11, 2004, at 4:36:53

In reply to lar and ray..i'm interested in trying this to gain, posted by joebob on November 10, 2004, at 20:55:28

> weight
>
> http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic2/cyprohept.htm
>
> am waiting on some keto sticks to check for ketones re: beta cells and diabetes
>
> wonder if testing glucose with one of those monitors would be helpful in ruling out the
diabetes?
>
> i got the idea to try this med from a post last year on pb
>
> still need to gain weight, no appetite
>
> more for ray later, and larry always more than welcome to help
>
> opinions appreciated warmly

Hi Joebob, all sounds a good idea, but it's checking for antibodies to the beta cells that is probably the most accurate way of checking -

Lar myself and others have mentioned vitamin D several times recently - I can only take small amounts but most people can safely take higher doses, it does protect the beta cells too..

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15113720

and this too....Various adjuvant therapies have been introduced along with intensive insulin therapy in patients with recent onset type 1 diabetes. Nicotinamide (NA), administered at diagnosis of the disease, can have beneficial effects on the clinical remission rate, improve metabolic control and preserve or slightly increase beta-cell function, probably by reducing toxicity due to free oxygen radicals. Vitamin E, a known antioxidant, inhibits lipid peroxidation; this can lead to protection of islet beta cells from the combined effects of interleukin 1, tumor necrosis factor and gamma interferon.

The gut and brain hormone CCK needs sulfate to be activated - so MSM can be useful to stimulate the digestion..most studies on CCK are on rats who's CCK works differently from ours.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15533776

and this on cachexia is really good..

http://search.lef.org/src-cgi-bin/MsmGo.exe?grab_id=60&EXTRA_ARG=&CFGNAME=MssFind%2Ecfg&host_id=42&page_id=9175040&query=cachexia&hiword=cachexia+

Ray

ray..thanks so much..will follow up (nm) » raybakes

Posted by joebob on November 11, 2004, at 23:21:54

In reply to Re: lar and ray..i'm interested in trying this to gain » joebob, posted by raybakes on November 11, 2004, at 4:36:53

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