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Posted by Susan J on June 21, 2004, at 9:50:42
Lar,
I don't follow this board too much, so forgive me if I'm asking a question that's been answered repeatedly.
I know that taking megadoses of stuff like Vitamin B Complex can help depression, but is there any proof that depression itself actually impedes the body's ability to use certain nutrients?
Posted by Wolf Dreamer on June 22, 2004, at 11:35:05
In reply to For the Hooverman, or anyone else who might know., posted by Susan J on June 21, 2004, at 9:50:42
If your depression is called by candida, for instance, depleting your body of vitamin B, or simply very poor nutrician, then taking it will help.
I don't think depression effects what you absorb, but instead what is causing your depression is causing that effect. I've never heard of someone's mental state affecting how they took in various things, however it is an interesting concept to look into.
Could some have problems taking things because they were in the right state of mind first? If the mind can cause some people to have instant diarreha whenever they are upset, or anxious about something, then who knows what else its doing to us.
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About the candida thing... do you live mostly off of sugar and/or alcohol? Do you get sugar cravings where you consume large amounts of sugar without knowing why? Some binge eating is caused by that.I've been taking MCT which has two types of acid in it which fight candida, and formerly ate some coconut oil my stomach didn't really agree with, for the same reasons. I gave up sugar some time last year, eating junk food for the first time today in a significant amount of time.
Posted by Susan J on June 22, 2004, at 11:39:50
In reply to depends on what your depression is caused by » Susan J, posted by Wolf Dreamer on June 22, 2004, at 11:35:05
>> I don't think depression effects what you absorb, but instead what is causing your depression is causing that effect.
<<I guess that's kind of what I meant. If my depression is a chemical imbalance (and I have no clue what may cause that), does that chemical imbalance affect the way my body absorbs nutrients?When I was deeply depressed, I was shocked to see how many physical symptoms I had as well.
> About the candida thing... do you live mostly off of sugar and/or alcohol? Do you get sugar cravings where you consume large amounts of sugar without knowing why? Some binge eating is caused by that.
<<Hmmm, don't know much about that (Candida) either. I have had episodes of being addicted to sugar, and yes, I'll get sugar cravings after eating sugar....but I'm eating pretty darned healthy these days, so that hasn't been a problem. :-)
>>I gave up sugar some time last year, eating junk food for the first time today in a significant amount of time.
<<Ah! What triggered that? Hate it when that happens. :-)
Posted by Larry Hoover on June 27, 2004, at 14:32:42
In reply to For the Hooverman, or anyone else who might know., posted by Susan J on June 21, 2004, at 9:50:42
> Lar,
>
> I don't follow this board too much, so forgive me if I'm asking a question that's been answered repeatedly.
>
> I know that taking megadoses of stuff like Vitamin B Complex can help depression, but is there any proof that depression itself actually impedes the body's ability to use certain nutrients?I hate to give a simple yes or no to such a question. I lean towards yes, though.
Depression is often related to general stress. It doesn't have to be a particular kind of stress to put you into depression, but depression can follow stress. Stress changes the way your body handles minerals. Stress causes loss of minerals in urine, and changes biochemical demand for vitamins. If the stress exists long enough, the mechanisms by which nutrients are pumped out of the gut can start to malfunction, because they rely on vitamins and minerals, too. That's when you begin to see stress malnutrition, which is a vicious circle phenomenon. One form of malnutrition causes other forms of malnutrition, via poor uptake, and gets "locked in". That might be when overt depression is diagnosed. I'm suggesting that taking drugs to affect the brain chemistry may be insufficient to restore the chemistry in the rest of the body. Megavitamin therapy is designed to flood the body in such a way that even poor uptake mechanisms cannot prevent nutrients from getting into the body.
Lar
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