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Posted by crazychickuk on April 1, 2004, at 9:04:14
HI, not sure if u been following me but i really need your help and advice..
Ok here is a short bit about me... i am 23 female overweight.. can not take ssri's cus they cause my hrt rate to go up and my blood preasure to go up (ended up in hospital) Can not take trylics cus they give me panick reactions.. DO not want to try an maoi as i would be to panicky cus i eat alot of meat and cheese with the aktins diet...
I am currently taking 30mg remeron been on it for a year with no probs, he also gave me proponol to take as an as needed basis(makes me obsess about my breathing).. anyways my doctor is out of options for me he wanted me to wait to see the physciatrist ( yr later) i seen her yesterday but she gave me fluanxol said to take it as needed.. side affects are bad , says if u get a raised hrt rate stop immediatly... (i suffer with this anyways)
My symptoms are as follows:
I am very anxious, nervous, timid, some times depressed, bad panick attacks, can get manic eppisodes(not bad just a high feelin, anxious i suppose) and i obsess alot about my health the littlest symptom, lately
i been obsessing about my hrt rate, my chest and my hrt basiclly..
Doctor wont give me no benzo's cus they do not give them out anymore cus of the addiction and cns depressant in them (lots of ppl commiting suicide on them)I am open minded to try herbals if there are any one here with experience ( i am in wales uk)... i want to give st johns wort a go but can i take it with my remeron? and will it cause my hrt rate to increase ( always happens to me) is it an ssri? is it safe? What else could i try i am desperate...
I wont be seeing the physciatrist again she refering me to mind ( a group which helps house bound ppl, takes us out for cups of tea in a cafe etc)
SO thats it.. help plse...
Thanks
Regards
Donnap.s.. i am in the uk, no point going to another doctor cus they wont deal with me only my doctor will. I am sure if someone said to try something then i would ask him for it he may give it to me..
Posted by cherylann on April 4, 2004, at 18:50:06
In reply to PPL WITH EXPERIENCE PLSE PLSE READ AND HELP!!, posted by crazychickuk on April 1, 2004, at 9:04:14
I'm currently taking sam-e. No real side effects, but it's not really working either. I did try St John's wort in the past. It made me a very high strung. I know everyone's different, but that might be an issue for you. Klonopin has been great for me as far as sleep and panic. Seems your doc could give you something like that. If not, can't you find a different doc?
Posted by spoc on April 10, 2004, at 17:54:38
In reply to PPL WITH EXPERIENCE PLSE PLSE READ AND HELP!!, posted by crazychickuk on April 1, 2004, at 9:04:14
Hi crazychickuk, I just jumped in here and this probably isn't what you were hoping for either. I think you've been here longer than me, but I'm guessing your question is hard for people to know where to start with, because the potential answers would be limitless, and the most suitable thing(s) for you are no doubt already here many times over if you look for them.
Below is what I do to find information relevant to me, before I start a new thread. It sounds obvious but it must not be quite how you do it or else you'd have almost TOO many possibilities to consider by now. As far as that, no one knows you and your own nuances better than you, even if you summarize some of them in a post. So taking a stab at finding and tailoring the answers to yourself will by far be the most effective route. I think it's better to at least figure out or pick a ballpark to be in, *then* inquire about those more specific things, like a potential med or supplement. This process may sound inconvenient or complicated, but actually it becomes natural very quickly. And to me is even fun, like a computer game but one that is highly useful.
Anyway! Using most of the boards here but mainly meds and alternative, I keep track of interesting suggestions from those relevant sounding threads I skim. Within those threads I usually also find a wealth of additional suggestions that you'd never know were there to look at the thread or post title, and keep track of them too. Sometimes those steps in themselves wind up sending me off on other links or thread offshoots from the main; to where all in all I have tons to look into.
BUT if you have patience and read through all posts in a thread and its offshoots, often the dizzying number of questions coming to mind along the way (that you may be tempted to just start a new thread to get answered) will answer and resolve themselves as you come upon subsequent existing posts to the thread, which answer them. Also along the way if you use common sense and pay attention to the supporting data and "quality" of rationales given by various posters, you develop a natural process of elimination by which you end up with your "finalist" suggestions that you will next research further.
After having done the above, I then take my finalist ideas and begin doing Babble/Google searches for more archived info on them, using search parameters to focus the search and narrow the returns to recent years. I posted tips for how to do that in Admin this week, in a thread begun under the main title "PB sticky on searching archives?" Here's a link to my tips:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20040307/msgs/333885.html
In addition to Babble/Google searching you may also want to use regular Google (or other favorite engine) advanced searches to find data outside this site, but *hopefully* you know how to assess whether a site is reliable! That's key. Here is a link to tips for determining whether a health care related site is reliable, that I found at one of Dr. Bob's own resources links:
http://www.medicine.uiowa.edu/uhs/Healthguide.cfm
And, of course, ask questions of any docs and medical professionals you can, but it sounds pretty different in the UK (so sorry to hear that). Finally, after all this or at least some of it, if I still have questions I will *then* start a new thread, asking for any new developments or opinions on a specific thing I will name, which I found and am interested in.
For you and anyone else reading this, here is one more tip on how to get at the data you need on the Internet, if you are not a good Internet researcher or don't have the time or inspiration. Check out the link below, for a service called Google Answers. It is like going through the looking glass to another side of Google, where researchers do the work FOR you. You set your own offering price for your question, but do be realistic in relation to its complexity. AND, you have to be specific -- the blanket question "What should I try next, whether Western or Eastern?" would never get touched. Post a certain thing you saw somewhere and want investigated. Here is the FAQs page, from which you can click on the Google Answers logo in the upper left to begin the process:
http://answers.google.com/answers/faq.html
And heck, here's a link to a list of other specialized search utilities at Google, most free, because they can be so useful but I really think almost no one knows they are there (no, I don't work for Google!):
http://www.google.com/options/index.html
Anyway, I hope there was at least something in here you haven't tried yet, and that it helps. Best of luck! :- )
Posted by spoc on April 11, 2004, at 0:15:31
In reply to PPL WITH EXPERIENCE PLSE PLSE READ AND HELP!!, posted by crazychickuk on April 1, 2004, at 9:04:14
> HI, not sure if u been following me but i really need your help and advice.. >
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Hey, as I mentioned I had just "jumped in anywhere" but have now been reading the Alt board for awhile. Guess you probably have already considered and researched lots of stuff. It's easy to get things out of context when you just read an isolated post. But you can't look for background on each post/situation you randomly stumble on, so sometimes you roll the dice and just post the thing that you thought could help, as you pass through! Oh well, hopefully someone will get something out of all my rambling above! Would be nice because I'm leaving it all over the place by now! :- )
Posted by Wendygirl on May 8, 2004, at 20:12:57
In reply to Re: Tips on finding MANY of the answers we need » crazychickuk, posted by spoc on April 10, 2004, at 17:54:38
I've been on Effexor XR 75 for about 1 1/2 years. I started taking it for severe hot flashes and some depression. How do I get off it? I've read a lot of your comments on how addictive Effexor is and have a lot of lousey side effects, just some of them are: eye pressure headaches, water retention (I know the company claims you don't get water retention, but I never have before taking Effexor), gas, constipation, more severe depression and more frequent angry uncontrolable outbursts. I don't like it at all. At first I thought maybe I should take more but I realise I'm worse with the Effexor. Please tell me what the withdrawel symtoms are. Thank you.
Posted by spoc on May 8, 2004, at 20:37:05
In reply to Re: Tips on finding MANY of the answers we need, posted by Wendygirl on May 8, 2004, at 20:12:57
> I've been on Effexor XR 75 for about 1 1/2 years. I started taking it for severe hot flashes and some depression. How do I get off it? I've read a lot of your comments on how addictive Effexor is and have a lot of lousey side effects, just some of them are: eye pressure headaches, water retention (I know the company claims you don't get water retention, but I never have before taking Effexor), gas, constipation, more severe depression and more frequent angry uncontrolable outbursts. I don't like it at all. At first I thought maybe I should take more but I realise I'm worse with the Effexor. Please tell me what the withdrawel symtoms are. Thank you.
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Hi Wendy, maybe you are thinking of someone else? I actually haven't been on Effexor myself (although I've read a little at the med board here, since it was suggested to me once). So unfortunately I'm not the best one to ask. Did you mean to post on Alternative? There is a lot of Effexor info at most times on the med board (plain "Babble"), and people there who are very familiar with all the kinds of things you need to know. And lots more info in the archives.Sorry I couldn't help. I wish you the best! :- )
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