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Posted by BayLeaf on November 22, 2010, at 21:27:08
He has shown that he'd rather the site die than change his ways.
"Abandon all hope, ye who enter here".
I did.
Posted by Lou Pilder on November 23, 2010, at 11:56:57
In reply to Why do you keep trying when he is cement?, posted by BayLeaf on November 22, 2010, at 21:27:08
Friends,
It is written here,[...Why do you keep trying...?]
In my case here, I keep trying for a lot of reasons, reasons that I think could mark the difference between life and death.
In my case, I keep trying by using Mr. Hsiung's procedures of using the notification procedure and the administrative follow up procedure and the administrative discussion procedure and the reminder procedure for outstanding requests and others.
The fact that there are outstanding notifications and requests, in and of itself, in MHO could translate in the minds of some people that see the outstanding requests as an answer of itself. If I did not post the reminders, which give Mr. Hsiung the opportunity to repsond accordingly, then others may not see that there are unresponded to requests which could mean something in and of themselves.
Now since I am trying to save lives here and others could see the outstaning reminders and such requests by me, then in my concience I can think that I did what I could do, and others could agree with me as it being a fact that there are outstanding requests from me to Mr. Hsiung, outstanding requests that I think if they were replied to could mark the difference between life and death.
You see, the forum is for support and education. And the administration could be to facilitate support and education. Now if the administartion does not act timely in relation to their own Terms Of Service (TOS) here, then IMHO the time period between my request to them and the time that a reply is posted, opens up IMHO a critical period where a death could happen, and possibly could have been prevented if there was a reply posted to my request. And then some requests are still unanswerd from years ago. If any are interested in seeing those unanswerd requests, you could email me if you like and make your own determination as to what could have happened if the requests was answerd.
This is all because I think that there are posts here that are true in relation that people are at a crossroads in their life and have life or death as a choice in front of them, and are debating to choose life or death. I think that my requests that are outstanding could help those members choose life if the requests were replied to. Day upon day, night upon night, the outstanding requests are not allowing others to see my response until the outstanding requests are answerd. Now who is to say that my response to what Mr. Hsiung could post could not be a response that could give suopport and/or education to someone here to save their life?
When I came to this communnity, I thought that there could be a Beacon of Light for the lost in a troubled sea. The light that I want to shine (redacted by respondent).
Lou
Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 23, 2010, at 16:08:18
In reply to Lou's response- » BayLeaf, posted by Lou Pilder on November 23, 2010, at 11:56:57
>IMHO the time period between my request to them and the time that a reply is posted, opens up IMHO a critical period where a death could happen, and possibly could have been prevented if there was a reply posted to my request.
So what are you requesting Lou? I have completely lost track of what you are requesting. Perhaps you could be a bit more specific. I suspect that Mr. Hsiung finds it difficult to respond to your requests because he too has no idea what you are requesting.
Posted by Dr. Bob on November 27, 2010, at 1:16:58
In reply to Why do you keep trying when he is cement?, posted by BayLeaf on November 22, 2010, at 21:27:08
> He has shown that he'd rather the site die than change his ways.
I don't think the site is going to die if I continue to enforce the rules. But I'm open to changing them. But that doesn't -- and IMO shouldn't -- happen overnight.
Would posters rather the site die than change their ways?
> "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here".
Speaking of changing one's ways, that's from the gate of Hell.
> > People who sinned but prayed for forgiveness before their deaths are found not in Hell but in Purgatory, where they labour to be free of their sins. Those in Hell are people who tried to justify their sins and are unrepentant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferno_(Dante)
Bob
Posted by Lou Pilder on December 23, 2010, at 15:07:35
In reply to Lou's response- » BayLeaf, posted by Lou Pilder on November 23, 2010, at 11:56:57
> Friends,
> It is written here,[...Why do you keep trying...?]
> In my case here, I keep trying for a lot of reasons, reasons that I think could mark the difference between life and death.
> In my case, I keep trying by using Mr. Hsiung's procedures of using the notification procedure and the administrative follow up procedure and the administrative discussion procedure and the reminder procedure for outstanding requests and others.
> The fact that there are outstanding notifications and requests, in and of itself, in MHO could translate in the minds of some people that see the outstanding requests as an answer of itself. If I did not post the reminders, which give Mr. Hsiung the opportunity to repsond accordingly, then others may not see that there are unresponded to requests which could mean something in and of themselves.
> Now since I am trying to save lives here and others could see the outstaning reminders and such requests by me, then in my concience I can think that I did what I could do, and others could agree with me as it being a fact that there are outstanding requests from me to Mr. Hsiung, outstanding requests that I think if they were replied to could mark the difference between life and death.
> You see, the forum is for support and education. And the administration could be to facilitate support and education. Now if the administartion does not act timely in relation to their own Terms Of Service (TOS) here, then IMHO the time period between my request to them and the time that a reply is posted, opens up IMHO a critical period where a death could happen, and possibly could have been prevented if there was a reply posted to my request. And then some requests are still unanswerd from years ago. If any are interested in seeing those unanswerd requests, you could email me if you like and make your own determination as to what could have happened if the requests was answerd.
> This is all because I think that there are posts here that are true in relation that people are at a crossroads in their life and have life or death as a choice in front of them, and are debating to choose life or death. I think that my requests that are outstanding could help those members choose life if the requests were replied to. Day upon day, night upon night, the outstanding requests are not allowing others to see my response until the outstanding requests are answerd. Now who is to say that my response to what Mr. Hsiung could post could not be a response that could give suopport and/or education to someone here to save their life?
> When I came to this communnity, I thought that there could be a Beacon of Light for the lost in a troubled sea. The light that I want to shine (redacted by respondent).
> Lou
>
> Friends,
The question of why I keep trying is that there is something new and that by Mr. Hsiung responding to my outstanding notifications and requests, that there could be more education and support here IMHO as a result that if Mr. Hsiung does post responses to my requests, for then what I have posted in the request, that if there is a response from him, that {I could have the opportunitty to respond accordingly}.
Now Mr. Hsiung's TOS here states that he is open to feedback. Now if that means that he would post answers to my requests, then I have taken him at his word and I am awaiting his responses. And he states that he does in his thinking what will be good for the commuinity as a whole. You see, I think that responing according to the TOS here to notifications could be good for the community as a whole as soon as they are responded to. But being outstanding means that there is the potential IMHO for the time that the notifications are left outstanding to (redacted by respondent) with support and education and Mr Hsiung's TOS here is that the goal of the forum is for that. I have taken Mr. Hsiung at his word.
Lou.
Posted by PartlyCloudy on December 23, 2010, at 16:12:55
In reply to Re: Lou's response-, posted by ed_uk2010 on November 23, 2010, at 16:08:18
> >IMHO the time period between my request to them and the time that a reply is posted, opens up IMHO a critical period where a death could happen, and possibly could have been prevented if there was a reply posted to my request.
>
> So what are you requesting Lou? I have completely lost track of what you are requesting. Perhaps you could be a bit more specific. I suspect that Mr. Hsiung finds it difficult to respond to your requests because he too has no idea what you are requesting.Hi, Ed.
I have done some reading and some thinking. I think that perhaps Lou is asking for his voice to be heard; his experiences and opinions to be shared.
Just my interpretation.
pc
Posted by Lou Pilder on October 11, 2011, at 9:30:38
In reply to Re: Lou's response- » ed_uk2010, posted by PartlyCloudy on December 23, 2010, at 16:12:55
> > >IMHO the time period between my request to them and the time that a reply is posted, opens up IMHO a critical period where a death could happen, and possibly could have been prevented if there was a reply posted to my request.
> >
> > So what are you requesting Lou? I have completely lost track of what you are requesting. Perhaps you could be a bit more specific. I suspect that Mr. Hsiung finds it difficult to respond to your requests because he too has no idea what you are requesting.
>
> Hi, Ed.
> I have done some reading and some thinking. I think that perhaps Lou is asking for his voice to be heard; his experiences and opinions to be shared.
> Just my interpretation.
> pc
>
> pc,
What you wrote has IMHO great merit in relation to saving lives hhere. But it is more than that. You see, there can be an indoctrination where one controls the content. And if the indoctrination could allow antisemitic statement to stand, which means that others could think that the statements in question are supportive since Mr Hsiung states that support takes precedence, then Jews could be in fear of being a victim of antisemitic violence and then that could be considerd by some to be supportive by the nature of the administration leaving my notifications outstanding.
Each day that the notifications remain outstanding is IMHO a (redacted by respondent)the Jews. And that the members here are (redacted by respondent), then their (redacted by respondent)as well. This then could determine as to if or if not their is an indoctrination to (redacted by respondent) the Jews.
Lou Pilder
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 3, 2012, at 9:53:36
In reply to Lou's response-pheyerovheyt » PartlyCloudy, posted by Lou Pilder on October 11, 2011, at 9:30:38
> > > >IMHO the time period between my request to them and the time that a reply is posted, opens up IMHO a critical period where a death could happen, and possibly could have been prevented if there was a reply posted to my request.
> > >
> > > So what are you requesting Lou? I have completely lost track of what you are requesting. Perhaps you could be a bit more specific. I suspect that Mr. Hsiung finds it difficult to respond to your requests because he too has no idea what you are requesting.
> >
> > Hi, Ed.
> > I have done some reading and some thinking. I think that perhaps Lou is asking for his voice to be heard; his experiences and opinions to be shared.
> > Just my interpretation.
> > pc
> >
> > pc,
> What you wrote has IMHO great merit in relation to saving lives hhere. But it is more than that. You see, there can be an indoctrination where one controls the content. And if the indoctrination could allow antisemitic statement to stand, which means that others could think that the statements in question are supportive since Mr Hsiung states that support takes precedence, then Jews could be in fear of being a victim of antisemitic violence and then that could be considerd by some to be supportive by the nature of the administration leaving my notifications outstanding.
> Each day that the notifications remain outstanding is IMHO a (redacted by respondent)the Jews. And that the members here are (redacted by respondent), then their (redacted by respondent)as well. This then could determine as to if or if not their is an indoctrination to (redacted by respondent) the Jews.
> Lou Pilder
>
> Friends,
I am requesting interestd readers to email me.
Lou
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