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Posted by Gabbi-2 on April 23, 2007, at 22:38:00
In reply to Re: What will happen to Babble..., posted by Aunt Virginia on April 23, 2007, at 20:57:53
When has Dinah ever implied that her idea of right applies to the whole universe. Was that a dream you had? She's the absolute opposite.
I'm serious.
You're getting involved with an "imaginary" adversary. Criticizing because someone believes something to be true is not based in reason, it's based in the desire to criticize and make up facts as you go along. Providing a factual basis from which to base your criticisms the only way to reason.YOU know as well as I do, that when anyone has their integrity assualted yes even someone with TRUE integrity they will have the desire to defend themselves, implying that it's any more than that, well that is a really tired old form of **** my mom uses it as a last resort frequently.
My mother has no friends.It's been more than rules being questioned here, there have been cruel underhanded cheap assaults on all the deputies, this has little to do with reasonable conscientous objection to the rules.
to that I've Dinah seen being particulary respectful and lenient within her power as deputy, *yes the breaking of the rules by a conscientous objector*
Brio-de Chimp on psychology about 2years ago
And I need to add that I just got TWO P.B.C's one from Dinah yesterday for defending the deputies.
Posted by greywolf on April 23, 2007, at 23:29:25
In reply to Re: What will happen to Babble..., posted by Aunt Virginia on April 23, 2007, at 22:27:17
I am fortunate to have grown up in a household that was not abusive. Unfortunately, that has not allowed me the "pleasant privilege" of living life in ignorance of the many ways people can mistreat each other. That naivete was ripped from me long ago.
Like others, I spend an inordinate amount of my life simply trying to live. I have not succeeded in finding any real degree of happiness within myself, and I think the best I'll ever be able to do is try to avoid causing sadness for others. Unfortunately, I have failed all too often even at that, and I know enough about my own failures to recognize situations that may be hurtful to others.
I can talk about symptoms and meds, but I find it very difficult to discuss how badly I've failed to make something meaningful of my life. If I'm not contributing anything meaningful here, it is simply a reflection of my daily life.
Posted by Racer on April 24, 2007, at 2:04:26
In reply to Re: What will happen to Babble... » Aunt Virginia, posted by greywolf on April 23, 2007, at 23:29:25
> If I'm not contributing anything meaningful here, it is simply a reflection of my daily life.
>
>I just want you to know that I think you contribute a lot to this site. Thank you for your kindness and good sense.
Racer, not posting as a deputy
Posted by zazenducke on April 24, 2007, at 5:28:58
In reply to Re: What will happen to Babble... » tofuemmy, posted by Dinah on April 22, 2007, at 13:22:04
> If you see who is certainly not blocked, and not even pbc'd, how can it be said that we weild hammers on those who disagree with us?
>http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20070304/msgs/751786.html
Is this the post you were referring to?
GabbiGabbi says below she was PBCed for defending deputies.
I thought she meant people who were objecting to the rules were wielding the hammers.
I hope you feel better and we can return to administrative issues soon.
Posted by zazenducke on April 24, 2007, at 5:52:50
In reply to Re: What will happen to Babble... » Aunt Virginia, posted by Gabbi-2 on April 23, 2007, at 22:38:00
> You're getting involved with an "imaginary" adversary. Criticizing because someone believes something to be true is not based in reason, it's based in the desire to criticize and make up facts as you go along. Providing a factual basis from which to base your criticisms the only way to reason.
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> YOU know as well as I do, that when anyone has their integrity assualted yes even someone with TRUE integrity they will have the desire to defend themselves, implying that it's any more than that, well that is a really tired old form of **** my mom uses it as a last resort frequently.
> My mother has no friends.
>So the poster reminds you of your mom?
hmmmmmmmm
That was interesting.
I feel bad when people have no friends.
I extend the hand of friendship to GabbiGabbi's mom and Aunt Virginia.
This does not mean I agree with you. But I will try to treat you with respect and civility.
Your friend
Zazenduck
Posted by zazenducke on April 24, 2007, at 5:56:12
In reply to Imaginary adversaries + An offer of friendship » Gabbi-2, posted by zazenducke on April 24, 2007, at 5:52:50
Posted by zazenducke on April 24, 2007, at 7:31:43
In reply to Dinah's mom too. Let's do lunch. (nm) » zazenducke, posted by zazenducke on April 24, 2007, at 5:56:12
And order extra fries we may
(then to a bar to drink our cares away)
We shan't be gone long
You come too
...........................3 consecutive post rule exception because of 2 personal replies + demands of ART + desire for inclusiveness
Posted by greywolf on April 24, 2007, at 9:14:44
In reply to Re: What will happen to Babble... » greywolf, posted by Racer on April 24, 2007, at 2:04:26
Posted by sunnydays on April 24, 2007, at 9:43:29
In reply to Re: What will happen to Babble..., posted by Aunt Virginia on April 23, 2007, at 22:27:17
> Maybe you, greywolf, didn't grow up in a disfunctional abusive household and you enjoy the pleasant privilege of not having to recognize common patterns of oppression when you see them. For those of us educated in youth how to deploy these devices, they are as evident as the meaning of any other language.
**** Just so you know, I grew up in an extremely dysfunctional household, although that shouldn't matter in my opinions. I can recognize quite well when something someone is saying is not right or fair. I think that Babble is dedicated to fairness, albeit somewhat misguided at times. I think the deputies just enforce the rules Bob has made, and while there is always an element of subjectivity to enforcing rules, they do a darn good job!
sunnydays
Posted by Gabbi-2 on April 24, 2007, at 11:39:57
In reply to We're going to McDs for Happy Meals, posted by zazenducke on April 24, 2007, at 7:31:43
you made me laugh. I should have just let Greywolf do the talking, I should not post while my brain is spinning like a top for reasons that have nothing to do with babbble.
Sort of like the P.W.D reason except there are too many letters to make an abbreviation.I usually feel bad for those with no friends too, but sometimes when they are my mom...it's hard.
Do we HAVE TO go to Mcdonalds?
Posted by Racer on April 24, 2007, at 14:53:48
In reply to Re: We're going to McDs for Happy Meals » zazenducke, posted by Gabbi-2 on April 24, 2007, at 11:39:57
> you made me laugh. I should have just let Greywolf do the talking, I should not post while my brain is spinning like a top for reasons that have nothing to do with babbble.
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> Sort of like the P.W.D reason except there are too many letters to make an abbreviation.I don't know, I kinda like unreasonably long acronyms... I'm in favor of the No PWMYISLATFRTHNTDWB rule. I say go for it!
>
> Do we HAVE TO go to Mcdonalds?
>Good point. How about we head for Taco Bell instead?
Posted by Gabbi-2 on April 24, 2007, at 15:17:37
In reply to Re: We're going to McDs for Happy Meals » Gabbi-2, posted by Racer on April 24, 2007, at 14:53:48
I really laughed out loud at that.
And you know I'm going to use it now, watch me, I really will.. because good intentions aside, *sigh* undoubtedly it will happen again.
Posted by Quintal on April 24, 2007, at 15:37:34
In reply to We're going to McDs for Happy Meals, posted by zazenducke on April 24, 2007, at 7:31:43
............for offering the olive branch.
Q
Posted by Racer on April 24, 2007, at 16:06:22
In reply to Re: What will happen to Babble..., posted by Aunt Virginia on April 23, 2007, at 20:57:53
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> If you expressed some understanding of the other person's views, they might be more willing to entertain yours.
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> What seems important to you is doing what you believe is right, and presuming that your sense of right and wrong applies to the entire universe. Others hold vastly different values.
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> You act when you perceive things to be such. Your action does not make them such. You do seem eager to represent yourself to others as an infallible justice.
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> Who is Dinah hurting? Could Dinah stop hurting if she decided to? Would Dinah not hurt if she didn't insist that her preferred self-image govern all other's perceptions of her?
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>Please don't post anything here which could lead others to feel accused or put down.
More information regarding what is and isn't allowed here can be found in the FAQ, at http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
Any follow ups to this should themselves be civil, and Dr Bob may choose to adjust this deputy action.
Racer, acting as deputy
Posted by Quintal on April 24, 2007, at 16:26:31
In reply to Please be civil » Aunt Virginia, posted by Racer on April 24, 2007, at 16:06:22
If you're thinking of replying to that please take time out to step away from the computer and think carefully about how you word your post. I'm sure you know the next penalty for further incivility is a week long block, and personally I'd like to hear more of your views expressed as eloquently and civilly as I know you can.
Q
P.S. ((((Aunt Virginia))) I'm sorry to hear you grew up in an abusive household - I know what that feels like.
Posted by Declan on April 24, 2007, at 21:45:41
In reply to Re: What will happen to Babble..., posted by Aunt Virginia on April 23, 2007, at 20:57:53
>Would Dinah not hurt if she didn't insist that her preferred self-image govern all other's perceptions of her?
Could this not be said of most (if not all) of us?
Posted by Phillipa on April 24, 2007, at 23:03:05
In reply to Re: Well » Phillipa, posted by NikkiT2 on April 23, 2007, at 12:52:03
Sure Nikki I can post it but I know nothing. Love Phillipa ps not posting on this subject again
Posted by Phillipa on April 25, 2007, at 11:50:07
In reply to Re: Well » Phillipa, posted by NikkiT2 on April 23, 2007, at 12:52:03
Nikki of course promise not to post it as I bet he's enjoying a family vacation. No Dr. Bob would not to my knowledge which is next to none ever leave babble. He will return soon I bet. Love Phillipa people please dont worry. Wasn't my intention to worry anyone . I apologize to anyone that was upset. Love Phillipa
Posted by zazenducke on April 26, 2007, at 8:07:34
In reply to What will happen to Babble..., posted by tofuemmy on April 22, 2007, at 12:48:49
> Of course, I don't give a flip about Babble -
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> Emmy
Emmy how did you learn to do that?I would sincerely like to know
I think it would be a healthy skill to learn
Posted by Fallen4MyT on May 2, 2007, at 18:14:17
In reply to What will happen to Babble..., posted by tofuemmy on April 22, 2007, at 12:48:49
I remember when we did not have deputies. If I recall the board was just fine.
I think it would be the same of the deputies left...
Being some state they feel bad being deputies from my point of view, it would be best for them to leave then. Why do they want to be deputies anyhow if it hurts them so much?
Posted by Fallen4MyT on May 2, 2007, at 18:24:15
In reply to Thanks for the opening--I am taking a leave, posted by gardenergirl on April 22, 2007, at 17:29:58
I think it is good ....to take care of yourself. I support your taking a long break
> And the support, of course. To everyone who has expressed support for deputies or me, thank you. It helps a great deal.
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> So this is what procrastination gets me... Last weekend I decided to take a leave from working as a deputy, since Babble has been taking time away from something quite important to me. I realized that the time I spent during the day was not inline with my goals, so I have to make a change. I wanted to let the other deputies and Dr. Bob know ahead of time, and I didn't get those messages written and sent before I wandered knee-deep into another conflict.
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> So here's my official notification: I am taking a leave as a deputy as of tomorrow morning. I expect to this to last a minimum of two months. I'd like to say I'll still post for myself during that time, but I don't know how that will work out. I'm thinking at the moment it might be too distracting.
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> I'm still available by Babblemail or by email, which for the moment is listed with the deputy info. I also have a gmail address with the same name as my yahoo. I hope anyone who wants to stay in touch will feel free to.
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> To Dinah, Auntie Mel, Racer, 10derheart, Scratchpad, MarkH, and Dr. Bob (please Dog, don't let me have forgotten anyone...), I've learned a lot from you all, and I want to say thank you for that while I'm thinking about it so I don't forget.
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> Namaste
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> gg
Posted by gardenergirl on May 9, 2007, at 20:29:14
In reply to Re: Thanks for the opening--I am taking a leave » gardenergirl, posted by Fallen4MyT on May 2, 2007, at 18:24:15
Thanks for letting me know your thoughts on this.
gg
Posted by karen_kay on May 9, 2007, at 21:25:35
In reply to snort! » Fallen4MyT, posted by gardenergirl on May 9, 2007, at 20:29:14
you're saying exactly what you think gg.
i think i really missed the 'old' gg.
welcome back?
here's to a very long break, if you don't mind my saying...
Posted by gardenergirl on May 9, 2007, at 21:31:59
In reply to i'm glad » gardenergirl, posted by karen_kay on May 9, 2007, at 21:25:35
Thanks KK. I do feel a lot like the old gg. Glad at least one person thinks that's a good thing. Well, two counting me, I guess. :)
gg
Posted by karen_kay on May 9, 2007, at 21:43:52
In reply to Re: i'm glad » karen_kay, posted by gardenergirl on May 9, 2007, at 21:31:59
they just haven't read your posts yet dear.
you had me at snort. i thought the same thing when i first read it, but i fear poor fallen must think i pick on her enough as it is.
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