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Posted by Dinah on July 19, 2005, at 12:14:55
In reply to Re: Yup. And thanks. » Dinah, posted by crushedout on July 19, 2005, at 12:06:49
Posted by 10derHeart on July 19, 2005, at 13:26:54
In reply to Re: What plugins are missing? » crushedout, posted by thuso on July 18, 2005, at 17:39:00
...I also started using Firefox a few weeks back, and when I got the message, it did let me install *whatever* plug-in(s) (can't recall), and all is well now...never see the yellow box any more.
Wonder why it would act differently for me? Perhaps being a dinosaur and running Windows 98 (QUIT laughing!) has something to do with it....?
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 22, 2005, at 15:01:10
In reply to Re: What plugins are missing? » crushedout, posted by thuso on July 18, 2005, at 17:39:00
> As far as I can tell, it's only the music that requires the plugin.
I think that's right. QuickTime should do it:
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/mac.html
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/win.htmlBob
Posted by thuso on July 22, 2005, at 20:51:54
In reply to Re: plugins, posted by Dr. Bob on July 22, 2005, at 15:01:10
> > As far as I can tell, it's only the music that requires the plugin.
>
> I think that's right. QuickTime should do it:
>
> http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/mac.html
> http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/win.html
>
> Bob
>Unfortunately, that won't work with Firefox. I have no clue why! grrrr! I've been trying every way I can possibly think of to get it to work...from doing Firefox's automatic download to going straight to the quicktime site and downloading it. Doesn't work. I just gave up because I would never listen to the music anyways. It's just that stupid yellow box that bugs me.
Posted by thuso on July 23, 2005, at 2:31:50
In reply to That's so weird because... » thuso, posted by 10derHeart on July 19, 2005, at 13:26:54
> Wonder why it would act differently for me? Perhaps being a dinosaur and running Windows 98 (QUIT laughing!) has something to do with it....?
>That very well could be the reason. If I had another computer with an older MS OS, I'd experiment. %&(#&%(#&@*#%&@!)% Microsoft! I've already decided that my graduation gift will be a Mac (and a nice one!). I'll just keep my PC around so that I can download all those viruses and free spyware. ;-)
I'm not too worried about the missing plugin though. There's no reason for me to have it anyways. I prefer to choose my own music.
Posted by gardenergirl on January 10, 2007, at 20:02:42
In reply to Re: plugins » Dr. Bob, posted by thuso on July 22, 2005, at 20:51:54
> > > As far as I can tell, it's only the music that requires the plugin.
> >
> > I think that's right. QuickTime should do it:
> >
> > http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/mac.html
> > http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/win.html
> >
> > Bob
> >I've tried all the steps that Mozilla support recommends for this problem, and I still get the "missing plug-in" message every time I come here and only here. It seems to have something to do with the music being embedded (I have no idea what this means, btw). I'm running Windows XP and the most current Firefox and Quicktime versions. I have my Quicktime set to run midi files, and it does on all the test pages I tried.
This doesn't affect my ability to use this site, but like thuso, I really hate that yellow error banner at the top of my screen. If I take the time to close it, it helps, but it pops up each time I go to a new board. Grrrrr!
Any chance you can do the music script (is that what it's called?) differently? And are you by any chance using bgsound? Apparently that's not compatible with Firefox, though there is a plug-in that is supposed to correct that. I haven't been able to download that plug-in, though. (stupid dial-up!)
So anywhoo, here's the page with all the info I was using to try to correct this, if anyone else wants to try.
Good luck,
gg
Posted by gardenergirl on January 10, 2007, at 20:05:35
In reply to Re: plugins, posted by gardenergirl on January 10, 2007, at 20:02:42
Bah. That actually gives a pop up window that I have to close to continue. Bah!
I can't remember if that's why I switched to using Firefox for Babble. Too long ago.
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 11, 2007, at 22:54:37
In reply to Re: plugins, posted by gardenergirl on January 10, 2007, at 20:02:42
> It seems to have something to do with the music being embedded (I have no idea what this means, btw).
>
> are you by any chance using bgsound? Apparently that's not compatible with FirefoxI think if you use Firefox (or Netscape) it embeds and if you use IE it uses bgsound. Can you point me to something about embedding not working with Firefox? Thanks,
Bob
Posted by gardenergirl on January 11, 2007, at 23:46:35
In reply to Re: Firefox, posted by Dr. Bob on January 11, 2007, at 22:54:37
> > It seems to have something to do with the music being embedded (I have no idea what this means, btw).
> >
> > are you by any chance using bgsound? Apparently that's not compatible with Firefox
>
> I think if you use Firefox (or Netscape) it embeds and if you use IE it uses bgsound. Can you point me to something about embedding not working with Firefox? Thanks,
>
> Bob
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=206210&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=A note about bgsound
If you have successfully installed and setup Quicktime and passed the above test, you may still run into a problem with embedded media on some pages or your own page for that matter. The most common reason is that the page in question is using the non-standard <bgsound> element to embed audio. Firefox does not support the bgsound element. If this is the case, there is an extension available which enables Firefox to play audio embedded with the bgsound element:
BGM ConductorApparently it's bgsound that it doesn't support, though if I could get that BGM Conductor it might help. I didn't have any luck with that last night and haven't had time to try it tonight. I still don't know why I can't seem to get the Quicktime plug-in for MIDI files. Everything else seems to work just fine.
Strange.
gg
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 12, 2007, at 2:07:15
In reply to Re: Firefox » Dr. Bob, posted by gardenergirl on January 11, 2007, at 23:46:35
> If you have successfully installed and setup Quicktime and passed the above test, you may still run into a problem with embedded media on some pages or your own page for that matter. The most common reason is that the page in question is using the non-standard <bgsound> element to embed audio. Firefox does not support the bgsound element.
Ah, I think they're using "embed" in a generic way. Try this:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/test.html
> I still don't know why I can't seem to get the Quicktime plug-in for MIDI files.
I thought there was just one plug-in that handled multiple types of files?
Bob
Posted by gardenergirl on January 12, 2007, at 8:52:10
In reply to Re: Firefox, posted by Dr. Bob on January 12, 2007, at 2:07:15
There are multiple plugins.
See: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=206210&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=#test
In particular, try launching "about:plugins" (no quotes) from Firefox. When I try that, it shows the installed plugins on my PC. None that I have support MIDI. Yours may look different from mine. Mine lists eight files.File name: npqtplugin8.dll
File name: npqtplugin7.dll
File name: npqtplugin6.dll
File name: npqtplugin5.dll
File name: npqtplugin4.dll
File name: npqtplugin3.dll
File name: npqtplugin2.dll
File name: npqtplugin.dllAlso, I tried the test here, and firefox still could not locate and could not download the appropriate plugin.
Between this and my new PDA losing sound...Grrrr. This is what I get for trying to solve this stuff on my own instead of asking (yet again) my in-house tech support (aka my husband).
Thanks,
gg
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 15, 2007, at 18:55:47
In reply to Re: Firefox » Dr. Bob, posted by gardenergirl on January 12, 2007, at 8:52:10
> There are multiple plugins.
Ah, I see, it's different with Windows. What you get is different than what they show, you don't have "MIDI file" listed? And you made those "minor adjustments in the Quicktime Control Panel"?
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=206210#qtsetup
> Also, I tried the test here, and firefox still could not locate and could not download the appropriate plugin.
OK, how about:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/test2.html
Also, what do you get when you click "check browser"? Thanks for your patience,
Bob
Posted by gardenergirl on January 15, 2007, at 22:29:18
In reply to Re: Firefox, posted by Dr. Bob on January 15, 2007, at 18:55:47
> > There are multiple plugins.
>
> Ah, I see, it's different with Windows. What you get is different than what they show, you don't have "MIDI file" listed? And you made those "minor adjustments in the Quicktime Control Panel"?Yep. I tried a few times without success.
>
> http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=206210#qtsetup
>
> > Also, I tried the test here, and firefox still could not locate and could not download the appropriate plugin.
>
> OK, how about:
>
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/test2.html
>
> Also, what do you get when you click "check browser"?It says "netscape".
Thanks for your patience,
>
> BobThanks,
gg
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 17, 2007, at 2:05:35
In reply to Re: Firefox, posted by gardenergirl on January 15, 2007, at 22:29:18
> > OK, how about:
> >
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/test2.htmlNo luck with that, either?
Bob
Posted by gardenergirl on January 17, 2007, at 8:50:23
In reply to Re: Firefox, posted by Dr. Bob on January 17, 2007, at 2:05:35
> > > OK, how about:
> > >
> > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/test2.html
>
> No luck with that, either?
>
> BobWhat was supposed to happen?
Posted by Honore on January 17, 2007, at 9:57:58
In reply to Re: Firefox » Dr. Bob, posted by gardenergirl on January 17, 2007, at 8:50:23
I'm following along. You weren't able to configure the QT midi files?
Honore
Posted by gardenergirl on January 17, 2007, at 10:31:39
In reply to Re: Firefox, posted by Honore on January 17, 2007, at 9:57:58
I add MIDI files, but they just don't show up. When I go to test sites, the MIDI file examples aren't clickable in some cases. I feel like giving my ol' computer a swat upside the "head". ;)
gg
namaste
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 17, 2007, at 23:55:11
In reply to Re: Firefox » Honore, posted by gardenergirl on January 17, 2007, at 10:31:39
> What was supposed to happen?
It was supposed to play the music!
> I add MIDI files, but they just don't show up. When I go to test sites, the MIDI file examples aren't clickable in some cases.
That makes it sound like the problem's on your end...
Bob
Posted by Honore on January 18, 2007, at 11:52:35
In reply to Re: Firefox, posted by Dr. Bob on January 17, 2007, at 23:55:11
That's weird. I don't have it any more.
I use firefox and if the plugin was the box at the top of the page saying a plugin wasn't installed, for some reason I've gotten rid of it.
I tried this before and it didn't work, so maybe Bob did something? I don't know.
But this morning I reinstalled QT alternative and the message at the top of the page has disappeared.
Hope this holds up.
Honore
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 19, 2007, at 22:16:03
In reply to Re: Firefox, posted by Honore on January 18, 2007, at 11:52:35
> maybe Bob did something?
I can't take credit for this one...
Bob
Posted by gardenergirl on January 20, 2007, at 6:56:23
In reply to Re: Firefox, posted by Dr. Bob on January 19, 2007, at 22:16:03
Apparently there's a Quicktime alternative available that might help me with this issue. When I get time, I'll try installing that and see what happens.
gg
Posted by Honore on January 20, 2007, at 11:41:05
In reply to Quicktime alternative, posted by gardenergirl on January 20, 2007, at 6:56:23
That's the one that I used, gg.
I thought I had also tried in the past-- but maybe Firefox has changed it.
Since it worked this time for me, it could very well work for you.
Honore
Posted by gardenergirl on January 26, 2007, at 18:39:19
In reply to Re: Quicktime alternative » gardenergirl, posted by Honore on January 20, 2007, at 11:41:05
It's good to hear it's worked well for you. I've been trying to download it, but every link I try winds up with corrupt files and won't install. It could be my computer, I don't know. But if you still have the link form your download, I'd be grateful if you posted it or babblemailed it to me.
Thanks.
namaste
gg
Posted by Honore on January 26, 2007, at 23:04:21
In reply to Re: Quicktime alternative---Do you have a link? » Honore, posted by gardenergirl on January 26, 2007, at 18:39:19
Hi, gg.I'm not sure where I got it, but Mozilla sends you to this site to download it--so I assume this is where I did it. Let me know if it works for you.
http://www.free-codecs.com/download/QuickTime_Alternative.htm
Honore
Posted by gardenergirl on January 30, 2007, at 11:37:48
In reply to Re: Quicktime alternative---Do you have a link? » gardenergirl, posted by Honore on January 26, 2007, at 23:04:21
Thanks for the help. And hey, where did that volume/play slider thingy come from? ;)
namaste
gg
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