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Posted by Phillipa on December 13, 2006, at 18:40:35
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob and The Server » Honore, posted by wishingstar on December 13, 2006, at 15:38:48
The server was down from around 8am til late afternoon. Then it came on then crashed again thankfully not long. But there was absoluter no way to connect. A page came up saying server down. I e-mailed Dr. Bob and deputies and they very graciously informed me the server was down. I even had people e-mail from England asking if it was off in the US as well. Love Phillipa
Posted by sunnydays on December 13, 2006, at 19:26:03
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob and The Server, posted by Phillipa on December 13, 2006, at 18:40:35
I agree with some others who have posted. It's not my site, so I don't really feel like I should complain about things like the server. Something like that is pretty much out of Dr. Bob's control too, I think. And I read PBabble when I get up in the morning, but if I don't get to read it that day, I just check later, or I can catch up another day. If it's not working I try to take it in stride.
sunnydays
Posted by Honore on December 13, 2006, at 21:22:35
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob and The Server, posted by sunnydays on December 13, 2006, at 19:26:03
I didn't think of my message as a complaint.
I know, though, that some people depend on this site for company or responses during the day. So I also can imagine that it's disappointing or even distressing when it either isn't loading (which happened yesterday, but also more often than desirable lately, although for shorter periods) or is extremely slow. On some days recently, it's taken more than a minute to load each time I opened anything, which can make reading threads quite difficult.
On the other hand, one other day, there were hours during which the site timed out repeatedly after 20 seconds on my browser. I don't remember how many times I reloaded-- but it was quite a few.
I have no idea what the problem is, or whether (or how) to fix it.
I only meant to point out that it is a real problem. It definitely affects each of us differently depending on our patterns of use, and our needs at any moment-- as sunnydays points out.
I hope it goes without saying (although I'm happy to say it) that I'm very appreciative of Bob's willingness to maintain this place.
Honore
Posted by Phillipa on December 13, 2006, at 21:42:28
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob and The Server, posted by sunnydays on December 13, 2006, at 19:26:03
Unfortunately I'm a creature of habit. And I'm in the process of restructuring my life. So it is extremely annoying to me makes me angry even. I do know it's not Dr. Bob's or the deputies fault. Tough to be addicted to babble. So it must be a great site. Love Phillipa
Posted by sunnydays on December 13, 2006, at 22:13:47
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob and The Server, posted by Honore on December 13, 2006, at 21:22:35
Just wanted to make clear, I in no way intended to imply that anyone on this thread was complaining. It was a bad choice of words on my part, I think. I should stay off admin when I am upset for other reasons. I don't think clearly enough. That really truly was not my intention.
sunnydays
Posted by tofuemmy on December 13, 2006, at 22:19:55
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob and The Server » Phillipa, posted by NikkiT2 on December 13, 2006, at 3:41:34
We know a place is operating well when poor response time or a crash is actually unusual! I'll bet we are both familiar with sites where that is de rigeur!
Funny how people never notice UP time!! (like when driving, we curse out red lights, but we sail through green lights without a thank you!)
em
Posted by Honore on December 14, 2006, at 4:17:47
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob and The Server » NikkiT2, posted by tofuemmy on December 13, 2006, at 22:19:55
sunnydays, I wasn't thinking mostly of your words.
It was more of a general sense that my comments were being seen as such, when I meant them more in the sense that I understand how Phillipa feels.
It reminds me of a time when my upstairs neighbor was knocking frantically on my door in the middle of the night because his cable had gone out. (Where I live you can't get any TV without a cable hookup.) He insisted I look somewhere in hopes that something in my apartment had affected his cable. Seemed quite mad to me. I didn't have a TV at the time-- so I thought his ravings were more than a little over the top.
At this point, if I lost my cable or internet connections, I'd be ranting as hysterically as he was.
So it all depends on what you rely on at any particular to create a sense of connection. If you do depend on this place to have a sense of stable environment, it's disruptive when it goes down.
That's obviously a testimony to how important these connections, and the presence of other people can be. Probably, for whatever reason, NikkiT2 or Emme don't rely on it at this point, in that way-- so they don't identify with the sense of its suddenly disappearing. Perfectly understandable. I wanted Phillipa to know that I did connect to her feeling.
Honore
Posted by tofuemmy on December 14, 2006, at 6:35:30
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob and The Server, posted by Honore on December 14, 2006, at 4:17:47
You're right. I am no longer a babble addict. But I've been around a long enough to rememeber the outrage when Bob suggested people pay a membership fee - and recently when he added teeeny little ads. How is he supposed to pay for a server upgrade? Maybe he should sell mugs and t-shirts like DocJohn! (they're pretty cute)
Addictions are expensive! You should see my liquor store bill.
em (not emme...that's a different poster)
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 14, 2006, at 9:35:44
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob and The Server, posted by tofuemmy on December 14, 2006, at 6:35:30
> Funny how people never notice UP time!! (like when driving, we curse out red lights, but we sail through green lights without a thank you!)
Thank you! :-)
> Maybe he should sell mugs and t-shirts like DocJohn! (they're pretty cute)
BTW, another t-shirt company's been recommended to me. Could we come up with something cute, too?
Bob
Posted by Honore on December 14, 2006, at 10:23:09
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob and The Server, posted by tofuemmy on December 14, 2006, at 6:35:30
Sorry I got your name wrong, tofuemmy.
However, I've started to feel disrespected at this point, so I think I'm going to stay away from here for a while.
Honore
Posted by Phillipa on December 14, 2006, at 11:53:58
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob and The Server, posted by Honore on December 14, 2006, at 10:23:09
Honore what you said about me was absolutely correct. I really wish I was out working being productive, my self esteem is nowhere and I've about given up on ever being me again. When I come to babble sometimes I feel like nurse again. I feel like l'm part of something and there are others like me. However I become acutely aware that I should be working. But please don't go anywhere. I also have separation anxiety. Love Phillipa ps Dr. Bob I know it's not your fault the server and my panic. You do a great job.
Posted by NikkiT2 on December 14, 2006, at 11:59:17
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob and The Server, posted by tofuemmy on December 14, 2006, at 6:35:30
I was actually happy to pay to be a member of this site.. I do it for other sites.
One site I use, and have done for around 10 years, non-members are free to use, but members get benefits.. such as the ability to set up their own rooms / boards, and set access to them in different ways (members only, passworded, totally public etc). I aso pay to be a member of flickr, because there, people can use it for free, but paying members get benefits.
That kind of scheme I am more than in favour of..
Nikki
Posted by muffled on December 14, 2006, at 15:19:33
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob and The Server » tofuemmy, posted by NikkiT2 on December 14, 2006, at 11:59:17
Try Canada and the fight against a two tier health system.
Its a tough call.
You want inclusiveness for all to healthcare, but there's not enough money....
So those who can rustle up enough money to pay, can get care sooner than others.
So that seems intrinsicly unfair. However, since when has life been fair?
And at least the waitlist for healthcare services will be shortened if the rich go to private clinics.
So the less well off, won't have to wait as long...
The poor can choose to sell what they have in order to get faster care.
So there you have it.
So w/babble, I hate to have private boards and stuff, cuz then the 'real' babble is hidden from those who could benefit from it. I would most likely have not stopped at this site if I would have seen that I had to pay money for full services, but then thats just me. Now that I been here, I would not mind a sign up fee.....
I guess w/tshirts and stuff, then its not two tier so much. Those who can afford shirts etc can buy them. It might be kinda fun to see other babbleshirts around!LOL. So I suppose it could be a bonding experince or something....
Now if we could agree on a shirt design...thats a whole NEW can'o'worms!!!
Hmmmmmm.
Muffled
Posted by Phillipa on December 14, 2006, at 19:17:27
In reply to Oh man, posted by muffled on December 14, 2006, at 15:19:33
Muffled oh that would go over big here a shirt saying Hi I go to psychbabble. People would know I'm wierd. Not they don't. It's that term I guess. I've even read it in bood babble. Means talking a lot I think. Love Phillipa
Posted by tofuemmy on December 14, 2006, at 19:36:59
In reply to Re: Oh man » muffled, posted by Phillipa on December 14, 2006, at 19:17:27
How about "I (heart) PBC's!"
jk
Posted by laima on December 14, 2006, at 19:50:01
In reply to T-shirts, posted by tofuemmy on December 14, 2006, at 19:36:59
I hope the Tshirts don't say anything like: "Hi, I want to talk about my medication". They would have to be a little subtle.
Posted by madeline on December 14, 2006, at 20:25:05
In reply to Re: T-shirts, posted by laima on December 14, 2006, at 19:50:01
I don't know, we could have t-shirts for each of the babble boards:
I want to talk about my medications
I want to talk about my therapy
I want to talk about the civility policies
I want to talk about alternative therapies
etc...
Posted by laima on December 14, 2006, at 21:53:06
In reply to Re: T-shirts » laima, posted by madeline on December 14, 2006, at 20:25:05
Definately! I am eager to see the designs.
> I don't know, we could have t-shirts for each of the babble boards:
>
> I want to talk about my medications
>
> I want to talk about my therapy
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> I want to talk about the civility policies
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> I want to talk about alternative therapies
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> etc...
>
>
Posted by sunnydays on December 14, 2006, at 22:04:39
In reply to Re: T-shirts » madeline, posted by laima on December 14, 2006, at 21:53:06
Would something like "I babble" on the front of the shirt be something anyone would like? I was thinking it was subtle enough, and could be funny.
sunnydays
Posted by 10derHeart on December 14, 2006, at 22:31:02
In reply to Re: T-shirts, posted by sunnydays on December 14, 2006, at 22:04:39
Oooo...sunny, I like that!!
My first thought was, Civility Rocks
or better yet...Civility Rules......get it? ;-)
I can see 'I Babble' on the front....Where Civility Rules on the back?
But that's just dorky me.....IRL, too, I'm afraid. Then again, two T's said I was/am quite a rebel.....hmmm, so, do I love rules, or love breaking them?......arggghhhhhh identity crisis! lol
Back to better shirt ideas.....
Posted by laima on December 14, 2006, at 22:33:14
In reply to Re: T-shirts, posted by sunnydays on December 14, 2006, at 22:04:39
I like it! That sounds mysteriously subtle and yet precise- but what could one say if someone asked what the Tshirt means and one didn't feel like explaining, "Oh- it's my favorite mental health website"? I'm shy that way...
> Would something like "I babble" on the front of the shirt be something anyone would like? I was thinking it was subtle enough, and could be funny.
>
> sunnydays
Posted by sunnydays on December 15, 2006, at 9:03:12
In reply to Re: T-shirts » sunnydays, posted by 10derHeart on December 14, 2006, at 22:31:02
> Oooo...sunny, I like that!!
>
> My first thought was, Civility Rocks
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> or better yet...Civility Rules......get it? ;-)
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> I can see 'I Babble' on the front....Where Civility Rules on the back?
>
> But that's just dorky me.....IRL, too, I'm afraid. Then again, two T's said I was/am quite a rebel.....hmmm, so, do I love rules, or love breaking them?......arggghhhhhh identity crisis! lol
>
> Back to better shirt ideas.....That's cute!
sunnydays
Posted by sunnydays on December 15, 2006, at 9:04:31
In reply to Re: T-shirts » sunnydays, posted by laima on December 14, 2006, at 22:33:14
How about having it not capitalized, like how I wrote it. Then people probably wouldn't ask. And if they did, you could just say, "You know me, I like to babble on and on sometimes..." I don't know, though.
sunnydays
Posted by laima on December 15, 2006, at 12:16:38
In reply to Re: T-shirts » laima, posted by sunnydays on December 15, 2006, at 9:04:31
That sounds like a good idea- make the T-shirt work on two levels.> How about having it not capitalized, like how I wrote it. Then people probably wouldn't ask. And if they did, you could just say, "You know me, I like to babble on and on sometimes..." I don't know, though.
>
> sunnydays
Posted by Karen44 on December 19, 2006, at 0:53:50
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob and t-shirts, posted by Dr. Bob on December 14, 2006, at 9:35:44
t-shirts and mugs or whatever else; you have got to be kidding me!
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