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Posted by Honore on December 9, 2006, at 16:38:42
that Bob hasn't Pbc'ed or blocked pretty much anyone during what seems to me a rather contentious discussion of many intersecting issues here on Admin.
He has blocked Zazenduckie, which is unfortunate. However, I was becoming concerned not only for Zazenduckie, but for others, in the course of that discussion. I wish there had been another way to put a pause on that discussion, in the hope that some of the bad feelings evoked or expressed in it would cool down. I really do. Perhaps, as Bob suggests, I (or others) could have found a better way to respond.
However, I wonder if there's something other than Bob's handling of anything that's motivating the discussion now. I mean, I personally feel strongly that long blocks are wrong, hurtful, and not what I would do or want done. But maybe that becomes a focus of emotion when we're avoiding something else.
I don't know what's really going on or at stake here, but it feels as if something or some feeling other than what's being said or discussed-- is not being said.
Honore
Posted by zenhussy on December 9, 2006, at 16:40:49
In reply to I'd like to point out, posted by Honore on December 9, 2006, at 16:38:42
Posted by LlurpsieBlossom on December 9, 2006, at 21:24:10
In reply to I'd like to point out, posted by Honore on December 9, 2006, at 16:38:42
I am in grief.
I am very sad.
I am feeling anxious, well to the extent that my current medication allows it.
I wish Babble weren't the source of that pain, but I cannot deny it is.
I was trying to fix babble, because babble hurt me.
And I thought I'd start simple.
crushed. so i give up. no fixing. no tinkering. No more commentary.
What's the use? I don't get blocked. I'm rarely in danger of incivility. Why should I bother? babble's safe for me, or unsafe or whatever. who cares?
Maybe, Honore, the reason why things seem to spiral out of control here is because this board is not designed to provide support. It sure would be nice if we could have a forum to provide support to our Administrators. I would have a lot to say. Or a way of feeling like we were actually engaging in a collaboration with our Administrators. That is not the case. Good collaborators do not ignore well-intentioned suggestions. Good collaborators try to explain why something will work and why something won't work. Instead, I often feel like a sniveling peon, finding my ideas dismissed or ignored as easily as one would wipe crumbs from a table.
I'm abandoning my misconception of Dr. Bob's project being a collaborative enterprise between "contributors" and "administrators".
Sorry, my role here is to fill up vanilla pages with evidence of my transforming insanity.
My role here is to BABBLE.
To talk rapidly or continuously in a foolish, excited, or incomprehensible way
To utter something rapidly and incoherently
To reveal something secret or confidential by talking impulsively or carelessly
To make the continuous murmuring sound of water flowing over stones.
[from Oxford American Dictionaries]
Posted by verne on December 9, 2006, at 23:00:31
In reply to one of the elephants? » Honore, posted by LlurpsieBlossom on December 9, 2006, at 21:24:10
Before I pose my idea for a survey I want to express my thanks to LlurpsieBlossom for the definition of *babble*. From that I got a babblish idea.
Survey consists of four questions:
1. do you talk rapidly or continuously in a foolish, excited, or incomprehensible way
2. Do you utter something rapidly and incoherently
3. Do you reveal something secret or confidential by talking impulsively or carelessly
4. Do you make the continuous murmuring sound of water flowing over stones.
I answered "yes" to questions 3 and 4. I'm famous for my *murmuring* and I often reveal secrets about myself haphazardly. I spill my guts and I murmur - especially at church.
I would have to answer question 1 with: sometimes - especially the "incomprehensible" part.
You can answer: "yes", "no", or "sometimes". I guess my total score is a 2 1/2. (1/2 point for sometimes)
verne
Posted by fayeroe on December 10, 2006, at 10:06:49
In reply to one of the elephants? » Honore, posted by LlurpsieBlossom on December 9, 2006, at 21:24:10
i'm so sorry.........pat
Posted by laima on December 10, 2006, at 15:52:38
In reply to one of the elephants? » Honore, posted by LlurpsieBlossom on December 9, 2006, at 21:24:10
> My role here is to BABBLE.I don't know. Llurpsie. I think you bring a lot of warmth here.
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 13, 2006, at 3:31:20
In reply to one of the elephants? » Honore, posted by LlurpsieBlossom on December 9, 2006, at 21:24:10
> I am in grief.
>
> I am very sad.
>
> I am feeling anxious> I was trying to fix babble, because babble hurt me.
Llurpsie, thanks for reflecting on that. Are other feelings part of grief, too?
Bob
Posted by LlurpsieBlossom on December 13, 2006, at 7:29:33
In reply to Re: one of the elephants?, posted by Dr. Bob on December 13, 2006, at 3:31:20
> > I am in grief.
> >
> > I am very sad.
> >
> > I am feeling anxious
>
> > I was trying to fix babble, because babble hurt me.
>
> Llurpsie, thanks for reflecting on that. Are other feelings part of grief, too?
>
> BobYes- please read below
What follows has been sorted into expressions of grief || reactions to grief.
1) Expressions of grief.I am in grief.
I am very sad.
I am feeling anxious, well to the extent that my current medication allows it.
2. Expressions of grief that are projected onto the Babble project as an entity.
I wish Babble weren't the source of that pain, but I cannot deny it is. [this is an expression of grief that babble cannot make me feel better]
3. Mixed bag- some new sources of grief, and reactions to it.
I was trying to fix babble, because babble hurt me. [this was an expression of trying to fix babble, because I felt like babble was broken, because I didn't feel supported in my time of grief]
And I thought I'd start simple. [because I'm pragmatic, and overwrought]
crushed. so i give up. no fixing. no tinkering. No more commentary. [an expression of grief, both over pseudyname's suicide, and over my lost sense of babble as a tool for support rather than a tool of hurt]
What's the use? I don't get blocked. I'm rarely in danger of incivility. Why should I bother? babble's safe for me, or unsafe or whatever. who cares? [expression of grief over my ability to make a difference]
Maybe, Honore, the reason why things seem to spiral out of control here is because this board is not designed to provide support. It sure would be nice if we could have a forum to provide support to our Administrators. I would have a lot to say. Or a way of feeling like we were actually engaging in a collaboration with our Administrators. That is not the case. Good collaborators do not ignore well-intentioned suggestions. Good collaborators try to explain why something will work and why something won't work. Instead, I often feel like a sniveling peon, finding my ideas dismissed or ignored as easily as one would wipe crumbs from a table. [low self-esteem from generalized "hurting" projected on to psychobabble administration. Feeling of hopelessness, perhaps an over-generalized reaction to grief]
4. Unrelated to grief
I'm abandoning my misconception of Dr. Bob's project being a collaborative enterprise between "contributors" and "administrators". [correction of a cognitive distortion. I thought PBabble was one thing, I was mistaken. Now I have to figure out what PBabble is about (again).]
5. Reactions to grief, and to my uncertainty of what PBabble means to me.
Sorry, my role here is to fill up vanilla pages with evidence of my transforming insanity. [pragmatic, realistic]
My role here is to BABBLE. [accurate]
To talk rapidly or continuously in a foolish, excited, or incomprehensible way
To utter something rapidly and incoherently
To reveal something secret or confidential by talking impulsively or carelessly
To make the continuous murmuring sound of water flowing over stones.
[from Oxford American Dictionaries] [citing a reference makes me feel less like I'm making up all this stuff in my head, which occurs to me far more often than I admit]
for (y)our edification, Dr. Bob
best,
-Llurpsie
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 14, 2006, at 9:12:20
In reply to Re: one of the elephants?, posted by LlurpsieBlossom on December 13, 2006, at 7:29:33
> Yes- please read below
>
> What follows has been sorted into expressions of grief || reactions to grief.Thanks for going back through your post. I replied at Psycho-Babble Grief. Here's a link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/grief/20051017/msgs/713539.html
Thanks,
Bob
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