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Posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 11:59:35
In reply to Re: To whom are you referring? » zazenduckie, posted by muffled on December 1, 2006, at 11:53:23
Thanks for clearing things up. Bye.
> Franchesca.
> I give up.
> Bye.
Posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 12:02:00
In reply to Re: Zazenduckie » zazenduckie, posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 11:58:22
I guess I've made a right sorry *ss of myself.
This birthday is right in keeping with tradition.
Posted by karen_kay on December 1, 2006, at 12:05:23
In reply to I'm not terribly cheered though, posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 12:02:00
Posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 12:07:34
In reply to Re: Zazenduckie » Dinah, posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 11:55:44
I hope you're at least saying you aren't that poster, not that that poster was never my friend...
That would just be too depressing to bear.
Posted by muffled on December 1, 2006, at 12:09:49
In reply to Re: Zazenduckie, posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 12:07:34
Posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 12:11:46
In reply to Dinah, get my B-mail???????? (nm) » Dinah, posted by muffled on December 1, 2006, at 12:09:49
You should get my answer any sec.
Posted by NikkiT2 on December 1, 2006, at 14:01:26
In reply to Re: Zazenduckie, posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 12:07:34
not one little tiny tiny bit Dinah.
I think I thought the same as you.. and infact, I still do.
Nikki
Posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 14:12:56
In reply to You've NOT made anything fo yourself.., posted by NikkiT2 on December 1, 2006, at 14:01:26
Are you talkin about me?
Nice thoughts I presume.....
>
> I think I thought the same as you.. and infact, I still do.
>
> Nikki
Posted by NikkiT2 on December 1, 2006, at 15:36:25
In reply to Oh all right I'll ask » NikkiT2, posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 14:12:56
Not negative thoughts.. my brain isn't capapable for more than the basics at the moment.
Posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 15:38:05
In reply to Re: Oh all right I'll ask » zazenduckie, posted by NikkiT2 on December 1, 2006, at 15:36:25
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 1, 2006, at 15:49:15
In reply to Re: Ohhh puhlease » zazenduckie, posted by karen_kay on December 1, 2006, at 9:42:57
> you are wrong ... and insensitive.
Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.
But please don't take this personally, either, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please first see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#enforceFollow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above post, should of course themselves be civil.
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 1, 2006, at 15:49:21
In reply to Re: Please be civil. I TRYING.... » Dinah, posted by muffled on December 1, 2006, at 11:29:09
> > > It just seems to me that you are comming across as rather sarcastic and confrontative.
>
> So I not sure how I could have phrased that better????
> In the spirit of the intensity of this thread, I tried really hard, and really thot bout how to phrase this.Thanks for trying to help, I know it can be frustrating. One alternative way of phrasing that would've been to talk about how you felt instead what she did, for example, to use an I-statement like:
> > > I feel hurt and confronted when I read your posts.
> Thats why I put the 'It just seems to ME'.
> I thot I was owning the statement or whatever. That this was how I felt about the situation.You did own it, which I appreciate, but IMO, it's just not civil to express some feelings.
> And taken in the context of the entire post, its clear that I mean no harm, but was trying to warn Zaz, JUST AS BOB SAID on another thread here on Admin. I was trying to do the right thing......
Thanks for trying to do the right thing. It's hard to know how to help sometimes...
> I think BOTH you and I have been manipulated.....
OK, keeping the above in mind, could you please rephrase that?
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by muffled on December 1, 2006, at 15:58:52
In reply to Re: please rephrase that » muffled, posted by Dr. Bob on December 1, 2006, at 15:49:21
> I think BOTH you and I have been manipulated.....
Ok.Hmmmm.
I will try.
1. I feel like I am being manipulated when I read your posts.
2. Dinah, I feel we are being manipulated when I read this thread.
3. Some of the stuff said on this thread to me causes me to feel I and others are being manipulated.
4. Some of the posts come across in such a way as cause me to think I am trying to be manipulated.Are any of those OK? Is there one thats better than others? If so, why?
Thanks,
Muffled
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 1, 2006, at 16:18:45
In reply to Re: please rephrase that » Dr. Bob, posted by muffled on December 1, 2006, at 15:58:52
> > I think BOTH you and I have been manipulated.....
>
> Ok.Hmmmm.
> I will try.
> 1. I feel like I am being manipulated when I read your posts.
> 2. Dinah, I feel we are being manipulated when I read this thread.
> 3. Some of the stuff said on this thread to me causes me to feel I and others are being manipulated.
> 4. Some of the posts come across in such a way as cause me to think I am trying to be manipulated.
>
> Are any of those OK? Is there one thats better than others? If so, why?Thanks for working on this. How about just "I feel manipulated" instead of "I feel like I am being manipulated"? I think that might be a better I-statement because it focuses more on you.
Bob
Posted by clearskies on December 1, 2006, at 16:44:04
In reply to Re: Consistency in blocks - Zazenduckie » Dinah, posted by zazenduckie on November 30, 2006, at 19:01:24
>
> I'm sure you do. I've always found you to be quite satsified with yourself. Thanks for answering.
>
>
>Wow, if someone said this to me I would be really upset!
I'm putting on my babble-shield. It looks just like the Dome of Silence from Get Smart.
For those of you who are too young to remember that wonderful tv show, I promise it's a funny and innocuous visual.
CS
Posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 16:56:41
In reply to Re: Consistency in blocks - Zazenduckie, posted by clearskies on December 1, 2006, at 16:44:04
> >
I feel moderately upset upon reading these words you chose to post.>
> Wow, if someone said this to me I would be really upset!"Some might feel offended upon reading that about themselves. I don't"--Dinah
I DIDN'T say it to you. I said it to Dinah. I didn't think she would be upset and she said she wasn't.
>
> I'm putting on my babble-shield. It looks just like the Dome of Silence from Get Smart.
> For those of you who are too young to remember that wonderful tv show, I promise it's a funny and innocuous visual.
I certainly wish I'd mine on :)
Posted by Jost on December 1, 2006, at 17:16:37
In reply to I feel moderately upset » clearskies, posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 16:56:41
I thought it was the Cone of Silence. At least someone told me it was.
Gosh, I hope it was a Cone. I"ve been in the Cone of Silence with that person. Of course, the Cone mostly meant you could say things inside the Cone and no one was supposed to repeat them to anyone outside the Cone.
Course there were many simultaneous Cones going on.
So maybe it was a different thing altogether.
Jost
Posted by madeline on December 1, 2006, at 18:25:02
In reply to I feel moderately upset » clearskies, posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 16:56:41
Can you express it without getting blocked?
Posted by (((((zazenduckie)))) on December 1, 2006, at 18:28:20
In reply to What do you want zazenduckie? » zazenduckie, posted by madeline on December 1, 2006, at 18:25:02
Posted by ((((zazenduckie)))) on December 1, 2006, at 18:49:41
In reply to World Peace ;) You? (nm) » madeline, posted by (((((zazenduckie)))) on December 1, 2006, at 18:28:20
I would like to know
1 if it is okay for anyone to say he feels manipulated at any time or if Dr Bob is saying that only for that poster in that situation.
2 if it is okay to say I feel attacked?
3 if it is okay to say I feel emotionally blackmailed?
4 if it is okay to say I feel scapegoated?
I thought I feel words should not imply someone else has done something. Doesn't I feel manipulated imply something negative about another? That someone else is a manipulator? ( I would feel extremely upset if someone said that to me!)
But if that is okay are all the other examples I gave also okay?
This is an administrative question and I would just like to know how the rules would apply in those instances.
Thank you.
Posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 19:00:59
In reply to I feel moderately upset » clearskies, posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 16:56:41
Well, I said I wasn't offended.
I also said I was crying.
I'm not sure you can get not upset from that.
But I give up.
Posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 19:01:51
In reply to Re: I feel moderately upset » zazenduckie, posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 19:00:59
Sorry. I meant to say that I don't think I would say that I was not upset when I was in fact crying.
Posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 19:02:54
In reply to Re: I feel moderately upset, posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 19:01:51
That was just a syntax correction to correct something that upon re-reading might be misinterpreted to mean something other than what I intended.
Posted by madeline on December 1, 2006, at 19:02:57
In reply to World Peace ;) You? (nm) » madeline, posted by (((((zazenduckie)))) on December 1, 2006, at 18:28:20
People to be honest.
Posted by (((((zazenduckie)))) on December 1, 2006, at 19:40:54
In reply to Re: World Peace ;) You?, posted by madeline on December 1, 2006, at 19:02:57
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