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Posted by muffled on December 1, 2006, at 11:35:02
In reply to Proves my point :) thanks muffles, posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 11:28:43
> thanks for your loving advice
>
> congratulations on escaping a block***????
What EXACTLY do you mean by this statement Zaz?
Yes, my advice WAS given with caring.
Are you truly thanking me? or is it sarcasm? or am I misreading your statements and intentions?
I truly would like to know.
Because I feel like I have been sarcasticized somehow. But maybe I WAY off base?
Am I?
I'm sorry if I am. This is just how I perceive it. I am a little sensitive to sarcasm.(long story...)
I CERTAINLY can say the same to you Zaz. Congratulations on escaping a block.
Muffled
Posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 11:36:12
In reply to Ohhh puhlease » karen_kay, posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 9:28:58
I gathered from the use of part of a quote from me that you think I was being elliptical. Forgive me if I'm incorrect.
I just wanted to let you know that I was being nothing but direct, as I generally am with you.
I like you. I remember you as a friend from way back. And it hurts that the feelings wouldn't appear to be returned. That doesn't mean that you've done anything wrong. That's the god's honest truth, and I don't mean any more by what I said than that.
I'm far less clever than people give me credit for.
I hope people realize that although I feel hurt, I'm not accusing you of hurting me, and that no one feels compelled to defend me, or get themselves in trouble in any way over this.
I just wanted to try again to clear up any misunderstanding, but as far as I'm concerned I'll say no more on the topic, and try not to trouble you further.
Posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 11:41:38
In reply to Re: Proves my point :) thanks muffles » zazenduckie, posted by muffled on December 1, 2006, at 11:35:02
It makes your posts a lot easier to read :)
> Are you truly thanking me? or is it sarcasm? or am I misreading your statements and intentions?
> I truly would like to know.
> Because I feel like I have been sarcasticized somehow.
But maybe I WAY off base?It's best to take things at face value in online communication. I think don't you? Especially on Babble.
> I CERTAINLY can say the same to you Zaz. Congratulations on escaping a block.
Am I being sarcastacized?I love your word hope you don't mind me using it.
Posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 11:44:03
In reply to Re: Please be civil » Dinah, posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 11:32:24
> You chose to interpret it as you wish and make all kind of judgements about me.
> I've been treated like garbage on Babble before and it was something of a sensitive topic
I chose only one statement, and I'm sorry if I chose the wrong one.
Posted by muffled on December 1, 2006, at 11:45:09
In reply to Thanks for using verbs :) » muffled, posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 11:41:38
> It makes your posts a lot easier to read :)
>
>
> > Are you truly thanking me? or is it sarcasm? or am I misreading your statements and intentions?
> > I truly would like to know.
> > Because I feel like I have been sarcasticized somehow.
>
>
> But maybe I WAY off base?
>
> It's best to take things at face value in online communication. I think don't you? Especially on Babble.
>
> > I CERTAINLY can say the same to you Zaz. Congratulations on escaping a block.
>
>
> Am I being sarcastacized?
>
> I love your word hope you don't mind me using it.
>
>
**I am sorry if I have offended you in any way.
But you haven't really answered my question. I truly do want to know. I have flashes of brilliance, but mostly I SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO dense.
Could you answer me?
Thanks,
Muffled
Posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 11:46:19
In reply to Re: Thanks for using verbs :) » zazenduckie, posted by muffled on December 1, 2006, at 11:45:09
Posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 11:46:54
In reply to Re: Please be civil » zazenduckie, posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 11:44:03
Posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 11:51:02
In reply to Re: Please be civil. I TRYING.... » Dinah, posted by muffled on December 1, 2006, at 11:29:09
> And this is EXACTLY what I am talking about when someONE is disruptive. They MANIPULATE people. They cause people to slip up when they have been doing so well. And thats the reason for blocks.(though I STILL think they should be capped).
>
> I'M just saying that there is a REASON I got sucked into this. And I think BOTH you and I have been manipulated.....
> Take care,
> Muffled
Posted by muffled on December 1, 2006, at 11:53:23
In reply to To whom are you referring? » muffled, posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 11:51:02
Franchesca.
I give up.
Bye.
Posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 11:55:44
In reply to Zazenduckie, posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 11:36:12
>
> I like you. I remember you as a friend from way back.Dinah I believe you have me confused with someone else. That may account for the unusual posts etc you direct towards me. I hope this clears up any misunderstanding. I hope that cheers you up.
Posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 11:58:22
In reply to Re: Zazenduckie » Dinah, posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 11:55:44
I guess I do. You remind me of an old friend. Sorry if I mistook you for that person.
Posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 11:59:35
In reply to Re: To whom are you referring? » zazenduckie, posted by muffled on December 1, 2006, at 11:53:23
Thanks for clearing things up. Bye.
> Franchesca.
> I give up.
> Bye.
Posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 12:02:00
In reply to Re: Zazenduckie » zazenduckie, posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 11:58:22
I guess I've made a right sorry *ss of myself.
This birthday is right in keeping with tradition.
Posted by karen_kay on December 1, 2006, at 12:05:23
In reply to I'm not terribly cheered though, posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 12:02:00
Posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 12:07:34
In reply to Re: Zazenduckie » Dinah, posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 11:55:44
I hope you're at least saying you aren't that poster, not that that poster was never my friend...
That would just be too depressing to bear.
Posted by muffled on December 1, 2006, at 12:09:49
In reply to Re: Zazenduckie, posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 12:07:34
Posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 12:11:46
In reply to Dinah, get my B-mail???????? (nm) » Dinah, posted by muffled on December 1, 2006, at 12:09:49
You should get my answer any sec.
Posted by NikkiT2 on December 1, 2006, at 14:01:26
In reply to Re: Zazenduckie, posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 12:07:34
not one little tiny tiny bit Dinah.
I think I thought the same as you.. and infact, I still do.
Nikki
Posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 14:12:56
In reply to You've NOT made anything fo yourself.., posted by NikkiT2 on December 1, 2006, at 14:01:26
Are you talkin about me?
Nice thoughts I presume.....
>
> I think I thought the same as you.. and infact, I still do.
>
> Nikki
Posted by NikkiT2 on December 1, 2006, at 15:36:25
In reply to Oh all right I'll ask » NikkiT2, posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 14:12:56
Not negative thoughts.. my brain isn't capapable for more than the basics at the moment.
Posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 15:38:05
In reply to Re: Oh all right I'll ask » zazenduckie, posted by NikkiT2 on December 1, 2006, at 15:36:25
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 1, 2006, at 15:49:15
In reply to Re: Ohhh puhlease » zazenduckie, posted by karen_kay on December 1, 2006, at 9:42:57
> you are wrong ... and insensitive.
Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.
But please don't take this personally, either, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please first see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#enforceFollow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above post, should of course themselves be civil.
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 1, 2006, at 15:49:21
In reply to Re: Please be civil. I TRYING.... » Dinah, posted by muffled on December 1, 2006, at 11:29:09
> > > It just seems to me that you are comming across as rather sarcastic and confrontative.
>
> So I not sure how I could have phrased that better????
> In the spirit of the intensity of this thread, I tried really hard, and really thot bout how to phrase this.Thanks for trying to help, I know it can be frustrating. One alternative way of phrasing that would've been to talk about how you felt instead what she did, for example, to use an I-statement like:
> > > I feel hurt and confronted when I read your posts.
> Thats why I put the 'It just seems to ME'.
> I thot I was owning the statement or whatever. That this was how I felt about the situation.You did own it, which I appreciate, but IMO, it's just not civil to express some feelings.
> And taken in the context of the entire post, its clear that I mean no harm, but was trying to warn Zaz, JUST AS BOB SAID on another thread here on Admin. I was trying to do the right thing......
Thanks for trying to do the right thing. It's hard to know how to help sometimes...
> I think BOTH you and I have been manipulated.....
OK, keeping the above in mind, could you please rephrase that?
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by muffled on December 1, 2006, at 15:58:52
In reply to Re: please rephrase that » muffled, posted by Dr. Bob on December 1, 2006, at 15:49:21
> I think BOTH you and I have been manipulated.....
Ok.Hmmmm.
I will try.
1. I feel like I am being manipulated when I read your posts.
2. Dinah, I feel we are being manipulated when I read this thread.
3. Some of the stuff said on this thread to me causes me to feel I and others are being manipulated.
4. Some of the posts come across in such a way as cause me to think I am trying to be manipulated.Are any of those OK? Is there one thats better than others? If so, why?
Thanks,
Muffled
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 1, 2006, at 16:18:45
In reply to Re: please rephrase that » Dr. Bob, posted by muffled on December 1, 2006, at 15:58:52
> > I think BOTH you and I have been manipulated.....
>
> Ok.Hmmmm.
> I will try.
> 1. I feel like I am being manipulated when I read your posts.
> 2. Dinah, I feel we are being manipulated when I read this thread.
> 3. Some of the stuff said on this thread to me causes me to feel I and others are being manipulated.
> 4. Some of the posts come across in such a way as cause me to think I am trying to be manipulated.
>
> Are any of those OK? Is there one thats better than others? If so, why?Thanks for working on this. How about just "I feel manipulated" instead of "I feel like I am being manipulated"? I think that might be a better I-statement because it focuses more on you.
Bob
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