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Posted by gardenergirl on November 30, 2006, at 22:37:05
In reply to Re: Consistency in blocks » gardenergirl, posted by Dinah on November 30, 2006, at 19:14:09
Posted by karen_kay on December 1, 2006, at 9:14:06
In reply to Re: Consistency in blocks - Zazenduckie » Dinah, posted by zazenduckie on November 30, 2006, at 19:01:24
(sorry, i'm not c & p-ing the response, as others cleverly do but i'm lazy).
i've always been satisfied with the fairness in which dinah administers pbc's. personally, i'm a bit insulted by your response to poor dinah (i found it insulting, i'm insulted, whatever! pbc gods be damned!)
i think dinah's harder on herself than anyone else could dare be. don't try to give her a reason to be even harder, (especially if it's not warranted.)
take care of jr and i hope your car is safe and sound.
kk
Posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 9:28:58
In reply to please be sensitive duckie » zazenduckie, posted by karen_kay on December 1, 2006, at 9:14:06
.> personally, i'm a bit insulted by your response to poor dinah (i found it insulting, i'm insulted, whatever! pbc gods be damned!) :
I feel accused and put down as I'm sure the pbc gods do.
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> i think dinah's harder on herself than anyone else could dare be. don't try to give her a reason to be evenI feel accused threatened and put down. I'm not sure why you are doing this.
I see you being kind to so many people but when it comes to me.....Hope my ellipses meet the civility standard
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> take care of jr and i hope your car is safe and sound.
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What car? Woman you presume too much!I'm sure Dinah appreciates your *&*(*^&^* and I predict you shall not be blocked for your efforts on her behalf!
I on the other hand probably will be which will kind of prove my point won't it?
Posted by karen_kay on December 1, 2006, at 9:42:57
In reply to Ohhh puhlease » karen_kay, posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 9:28:58
like i've never been blocked before!
my intent was not to make you feel threatened or accused. my intent was to point out that you are wrong (and to be honest) and insensitive.
prior to this post, i have nothing but the best to say about you. i'm sorry if i didn't convey that properly. (and saying you're wrong isn't a bad thing, is it? i'm told how wrong i am on a daily basis. the insensitivity thing is kinda mean, but i thought perhaps you didn't notice and was just trying to be helpful pointing it out. sorry again, but i know you'd do the same for me.)and about presuming... sorry, i guess that's a flaw i have. perhaps it'll improve as i get older. (that was my attempt to show you i meant no harm and i hope you are doing well. sorry again, if somehow me wishing my best to you was insulting.)
and, i don't really think i have a block coming, as i haven't been warned to be civil in quite a while. i'm certain to get a pbc.
again, sorry if my concern for you (and fondness as well) hasn't been apparent.
take care
Posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 10:13:58
In reply to Re: Ohhh puhlease » zazenduckie, posted by karen_kay on December 1, 2006, at 9:42:57
> like i've never been blocked before!
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> my intent was not to make you feel threatened or accused. my intent was to point out that you are wrong (and to be honest) and insensitive.Sorry intentions don't count on Babble. Being wrong and insensitive is not acceptable in civility land. Civility is more important than honesty on Babble.
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> prior to this post, i have nothing but the best to say about you. i'm sorry if i didn't convey that properly. (and saying you're wrong isn't a bad thing, is it? i'm told how wrong i am on a daily basis.I disagree is a little different from you are wrong isn't it? I don't care at all if you disagree with me. Are you told you're wrong here in the vale of civility?
> the insensitivity thing is kinda mean,
I agree.
> but i thought perhaps you didn't notice and was just trying to be helpful pointing it out. sorry again, but i know you'd do the same for m
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> and about presuming... sorry, i guess that's a flaw i have. perhaps it'll improve as i get older. (that was my attempt to show you i meant no harm and i hope you are doing well. sorry again, if somehow me wishing my best to you was insulting.)
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> and, i don't really think i have a block coming, as i haven't been warned to be civil in quite a while. i'm certain to get a pbc.
>I don't think you will get a block either. ......... there are those on the board who play the rules well and post with well timed missi*es in elliptically correct civility and never get a block at all. I don't find that particularly admirable.
I did not say anything uncivil to Dinah. This is the admin board. It is for questions about admin policies. You chose to interpret it as you wish and make all kind of judgements about me. But I am sure you will be well rewarded.
> again, sorry if my concern for you (and fondness as well) hasn't been apparent.
Well no actually it hasn't
This place reminds me of Middle School.
I'm sorry I gave you a PBS . I've been treated like garbage on Babble before and it was something of a sensitive topic. I won't do it again.
Posted by muffled on December 1, 2006, at 10:52:19
In reply to Re: Ohhh puhlease » karen_kay, posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 10:13:58
Whats going on with you?
Are you Ok?
I don't read other boards much, so I dunno if you posting elsewhere OK?
It just seems to me that you are comming across as rather sarcastic and confrontative. Are you trying to get blocked? Are you trying to get others blocked?
Where I volunteer, at a drop in center, if a person would continue to exhibit confrontative, disruptive behavior, even if its not out and out bad, well, eventually they would be asked to leave, as its disruptive to others. The other patrons can be triggered by the behaviors and then THEY get kicked out.
I dunno if I making sense?
I just get the sense that you are hurting, and I'm sorry.
Maybe you need to have a break from Admin for a bit?
Cuz eventually you will get blocked the way you are going.
And IMO it would not be unjustified or unfair.
So I don't in ANY way mean this to be mean to you.
I just want you to be OK.
I hate to see people hurting.
Muffled
Posted by muffled on December 1, 2006, at 10:55:50
In reply to Re: Consistency in blocks - Zazenduckie, posted by Dinah on November 30, 2006, at 19:12:46
I kinow you do the best you can. All the deputies do. And I would agree that blocks are not handed out as willy nilly as they used to seem to be.
I thank you and the other deputies for the job you do.
I wouldn't want to be a deputy, so I really appreciate that others are willing to do this.
I know you been struggling a bit.
So take special care.
Muffled
Posted by karen_kay on December 1, 2006, at 11:11:08
In reply to Re: Ohhh puhlease » karen_kay, posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 10:13:58
i certainly don't want to add to any feelings of being treated like garbage (i can't think of a better way to word it, sorry). i'm honestly sorry if i have.
Posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 11:15:12
In reply to Re: Ohhh puhlease » zazenduckie, posted by karen_kay on December 1, 2006, at 11:11:08
Posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 11:18:36
In reply to Zaz? » zazenduckie, posted by muffled on December 1, 2006, at 10:52:19
> It just seems to me that you are comming across as rather sarcastic and confrontative.
I appreciate your support, Muffled, but I'm going to have to ask you to please not post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
Follow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above posts, should of course themselves be civil.
Dr. Bob is always free to override (or upgrade to a block if he deems it prudent) deputy decisions. His email is on the bottom of each page. Please feel free to email him if you believe this decision was made in error.
Dinah, acting as deputy for Dr. Bob
Posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 11:27:45
In reply to Ohhh puhlease » karen_kay, posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 9:28:58
> What car? Woman you presume too much!
I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask you to please not post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
Follow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above posts, should of course themselves be civil.
Dr. Bob is always free to override deputy decisions. His email is on the bottom of each page. Please feel free to email him if you believe this decision was made in error.
Dinah, acting as deputy for Dr. Bob
Posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 11:28:43
In reply to Please be civil » muffled, posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 11:18:36
>ahhhhh civility
thanks for your loving advice
congratulations on escaping a block
> It just seems to me that you are comming across as rather sarcastic and confrontative.
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> I appreciate your support, Muffled, but I'm going to have to ask you to please not post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.
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> If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
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> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
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> Follow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above posts, should of course themselves be civil.
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> Dr. Bob is always free to override (or upgrade to a block if he deems it prudent) deputy decisions. His email is on the bottom of each page. Please feel free to email him if you believe this decision was made in error.
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> Dinah, acting as deputy for Dr. Bob
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Posted by muffled on December 1, 2006, at 11:29:09
In reply to Please be civil » muffled, posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 11:18:36
> > It just seems to me that you are comming across as rather sarcastic and confrontative.
>
**Ahhhh, see, I getting sucked into the vortex......
So I not sure how I could have phrased that better????
In the spirit of the intensity of this thread, I tried really hard, and really thot bout how to phrase this.
Thats why I put the 'It just seems to ME'.
I thot I was owning the statement or whatever. That this was how I felt about the situation. And taken in the context of the entire post, its clear that I mean no harm, but was trying to warn Zaz, JUST AS BOB SAID on another thread here on Admin. I was trying to do the right thing......
And this is EXACTLY what I am talking about when someONE is disruptive. They MANIPULATE people. They cause people to slip up when they have been doing so well. And thats the reason for blocks.(though I STILL think they should be capped).
So I'm sure you are using your best judgement Dinah, no prob.
I'M just saying that there is a REASON I got sucked into this. And I think BOTH you and I have been manipulated.....
Take care,
Muffled
Posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 11:32:24
In reply to Please be civil » zazenduckie, posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 11:27:45
> > What car? Woman you presume too much!
I meant that she presumed it was a car. In my post it was a horse. I never said it was a car.
I feel accused and put down Deputy.
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> I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask you to please not post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.
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> If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
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> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
>
> Follow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above posts, should of course themselves be civil.
>
> Dr. Bob is always free to override deputy decisions. His email is on the bottom of each page. Please feel free to email him if you believe this decision was made in error.
>
> Dinah, acting as deputy for Dr. Bob
Posted by muffled on December 1, 2006, at 11:35:02
In reply to Proves my point :) thanks muffles, posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 11:28:43
> thanks for your loving advice
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> congratulations on escaping a block***????
What EXACTLY do you mean by this statement Zaz?
Yes, my advice WAS given with caring.
Are you truly thanking me? or is it sarcasm? or am I misreading your statements and intentions?
I truly would like to know.
Because I feel like I have been sarcasticized somehow. But maybe I WAY off base?
Am I?
I'm sorry if I am. This is just how I perceive it. I am a little sensitive to sarcasm.(long story...)
I CERTAINLY can say the same to you Zaz. Congratulations on escaping a block.
Muffled
Posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 11:36:12
In reply to Ohhh puhlease » karen_kay, posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 9:28:58
I gathered from the use of part of a quote from me that you think I was being elliptical. Forgive me if I'm incorrect.
I just wanted to let you know that I was being nothing but direct, as I generally am with you.
I like you. I remember you as a friend from way back. And it hurts that the feelings wouldn't appear to be returned. That doesn't mean that you've done anything wrong. That's the god's honest truth, and I don't mean any more by what I said than that.
I'm far less clever than people give me credit for.
I hope people realize that although I feel hurt, I'm not accusing you of hurting me, and that no one feels compelled to defend me, or get themselves in trouble in any way over this.
I just wanted to try again to clear up any misunderstanding, but as far as I'm concerned I'll say no more on the topic, and try not to trouble you further.
Posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 11:41:38
In reply to Re: Proves my point :) thanks muffles » zazenduckie, posted by muffled on December 1, 2006, at 11:35:02
It makes your posts a lot easier to read :)
> Are you truly thanking me? or is it sarcasm? or am I misreading your statements and intentions?
> I truly would like to know.
> Because I feel like I have been sarcasticized somehow.
But maybe I WAY off base?It's best to take things at face value in online communication. I think don't you? Especially on Babble.
> I CERTAINLY can say the same to you Zaz. Congratulations on escaping a block.
Am I being sarcastacized?I love your word hope you don't mind me using it.
Posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 11:44:03
In reply to Re: Please be civil » Dinah, posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 11:32:24
> You chose to interpret it as you wish and make all kind of judgements about me.
> I've been treated like garbage on Babble before and it was something of a sensitive topic
I chose only one statement, and I'm sorry if I chose the wrong one.
Posted by muffled on December 1, 2006, at 11:45:09
In reply to Thanks for using verbs :) » muffled, posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 11:41:38
> It makes your posts a lot easier to read :)
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> > Are you truly thanking me? or is it sarcasm? or am I misreading your statements and intentions?
> > I truly would like to know.
> > Because I feel like I have been sarcasticized somehow.
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> But maybe I WAY off base?
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> It's best to take things at face value in online communication. I think don't you? Especially on Babble.
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> > I CERTAINLY can say the same to you Zaz. Congratulations on escaping a block.
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> Am I being sarcastacized?
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> I love your word hope you don't mind me using it.
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**I am sorry if I have offended you in any way.
But you haven't really answered my question. I truly do want to know. I have flashes of brilliance, but mostly I SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO dense.
Could you answer me?
Thanks,
Muffled
Posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 11:46:19
In reply to Re: Thanks for using verbs :) » zazenduckie, posted by muffled on December 1, 2006, at 11:45:09
Posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 11:46:54
In reply to Re: Please be civil » zazenduckie, posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 11:44:03
Posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 11:51:02
In reply to Re: Please be civil. I TRYING.... » Dinah, posted by muffled on December 1, 2006, at 11:29:09
> And this is EXACTLY what I am talking about when someONE is disruptive. They MANIPULATE people. They cause people to slip up when they have been doing so well. And thats the reason for blocks.(though I STILL think they should be capped).
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> I'M just saying that there is a REASON I got sucked into this. And I think BOTH you and I have been manipulated.....
> Take care,
> Muffled
Posted by muffled on December 1, 2006, at 11:53:23
In reply to To whom are you referring? » muffled, posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 11:51:02
Franchesca.
I give up.
Bye.
Posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 11:55:44
In reply to Zazenduckie, posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 11:36:12
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> I like you. I remember you as a friend from way back.Dinah I believe you have me confused with someone else. That may account for the unusual posts etc you direct towards me. I hope this clears up any misunderstanding. I hope that cheers you up.
Posted by Dinah on December 1, 2006, at 11:58:22
In reply to Re: Zazenduckie » Dinah, posted by zazenduckie on December 1, 2006, at 11:55:44
I guess I do. You remind me of an old friend. Sorry if I mistook you for that person.
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