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Posted by zazenduck on June 20, 2006, at 11:16:31
In reply to Re: You're losing your touch » Dr. Bob, posted by AuntieMel on June 20, 2006, at 10:49:45
Posted by Poet on June 20, 2006, at 11:42:23
In reply to Don't make me stop this car!, posted by Dr. Bob on June 20, 2006, at 9:11:41
Posted by zazenduck on June 20, 2006, at 11:48:05
In reply to Child ABUSE TRIGGERS above post (nm), posted by zazenduck on June 20, 2006, at 11:16:31
"When I was a kid and we fought in the back seat, my father could turn around and smack the (usually) right kid. All while going 75mph.
I had a teacher once. If anyone was talking while she was writing on the board, she could turn around and hurl a book - always hitting the right kid in the head.
It seems you used to do the cyber equivalent."
I suggest that this in not an accurate analogy. I believe posters may be sanctioned at random at first NOT because they violate more rules than anyone else just that they are RANDOMLY hit by the block. But the exponential increases have the effect of following the hit by the book with having the computer thrown at them next and then the desk and rendering them unconscious for a year.
I think the idea that some people "deserve" to be treated this way is in error.
I believe to suggest that Estella or Larry or Lou or ZenH or any other of the long term blockees deserved to be treated in this fashion is wrong.
But I am sure Bob appreciates the viewpoint of his deputies. That's probably why they're deputies. <grin> Why is it okay to insult male human beings (a post currently on the board) but preferring natural to supernatural reasoning is cause for a month long block?
I wanted to stand witness for those who've been hit by undeserved blocks.
I am addressing a post not any particular poster.
Posted by Larry Hoover on June 20, 2006, at 14:02:46
In reply to Don't make me stop this car!, posted by Dr. Bob on June 20, 2006, at 9:11:41
Posted by AuntieMel on June 20, 2006, at 15:30:55
In reply to Re: Child ABUSE TRIGGERS, posted by zazenduck on June 20, 2006, at 11:48:05
Posted by zazenduck on June 20, 2006, at 15:36:57
In reply to Re: good grief (nm), posted by AuntieMel on June 20, 2006, at 15:30:55
Posted by Bobby on June 20, 2006, at 16:49:32
In reply to Don't make me stop this car!, posted by Dr. Bob on June 20, 2006, at 9:11:41
Maybe you should roll up the windows, lock the doors and head for the closest garage.
Posted by Bobby on June 20, 2006, at 16:53:04
In reply to Re: You're losing your touch » Dr. Bob, posted by AuntieMel on June 20, 2006, at 10:49:45
my teacher threw chalk---except that time with the chair.
Posted by AuntieMel on June 20, 2006, at 17:20:03
In reply to Re: You're losing your touch » AuntieMel, posted by Bobby on June 20, 2006, at 16:53:04
It's too bad the Astros couldn't have signed that one I had. Man, she was good!
Posted by zazenduck on June 20, 2006, at 17:37:48
In reply to Re: You're losing your touch » AuntieMel, posted by Bobby on June 20, 2006, at 16:53:04
I hope no one ever throws a chair at a child you love Bobby. I hope it didn't hurt you to witness violence against children who may have been terrorized by what was happening in that classroom. I hope if you ever see someone who is menacing or attacking a child you will step forward and try to stop it. I hope to God I will too and that I will speak up and say it is wrong even if I am ridiculed for doing so.
It's not okay to hit children.
It's not okay to throw things at children.
It's not okay to humiliate children in front of others.
And I am not ashamed for speaking up and saying so.
> my teacher threw chalk---except that time with the chair.
Posted by gardenergirl on June 20, 2006, at 17:49:14
In reply to violence towards children » Bobby, posted by zazenduck on June 20, 2006, at 17:37:48
I'm sorry you're feeling triggered by this topic here on Admin. I can see how this board might not be one where someone might expect to run into this topic.
I notice that you are posting about it. What other ways are you finding useful in managing your reactions to this? What works for you in dealing with distress from being triggered? Please share if/when you feel up to it. Although now that I think about it, perhaps my question is better suited for the Psychology board?
Take care,
gg
Posted by Racer on June 20, 2006, at 17:55:31
In reply to Don't make me stop this car!, posted by Dr. Bob on June 20, 2006, at 9:11:41
That may be flip, but I think my personal answer to your question is, "not so's you'd notice..."
Then again, my reaction to it is mostly not to reply to those posts that trigger me, and limit my reading on boards that often trigger me, and limit my reading of posts by posters who frequently trigger me. I'm not quite sure whether that constitutes a healthy response, or avoidance.
Whichever it is, it's working pretty well for me right now.
And I'm glad you're back. Maybe now would be a good time to start a game of "I Spy?" Or singing "99 Bottles of Beer On The Wall?"
Posted by zazenduck on June 20, 2006, at 18:04:40
In reply to Re: violence towards children » zazenduck, posted by gardenergirl on June 20, 2006, at 17:49:14
I would prefer to stay on topic here.
I am raising administrative issues.
I am asking for fairness in the way blocks and pbcs are handed out.
I am standing witness for people who have no voices here. (And no doubt I will soon be one of them tho I have tried very hard to follow the sometimes confusing rules)
I am standing up for children who have been abused by adults . I am suggesting that teachers who throw books or chairs at children should NOT be put on baseball teams they should be put in jail. I think Psychobabble should not tolerate making light of child abuse. How do you stand on that issue?
I do not feel comfortable discussing any off board methods of coping on the Psych board or anywhere else. I have pretty much withdrawn from the rest of the board until these administrative issues are addressed. I think that is a very healthy thing to do.
Thanks for your concern
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> I notice that you are posting about it. What other ways are you finding useful in managing your reactions to this? What works for you in dealing with distress from being triggered? Please share if/when you feel up to it. Although now that I think about it, perhaps my question is better suited for the Psychology board?
>
> Take care,
>
> gg
Posted by gardenergirl on June 20, 2006, at 18:29:48
In reply to Re: violence towards children » gardenergirl, posted by zazenduck on June 20, 2006, at 18:04:40
I'm sorry. I thought you were talking about you personally being triggered. My mistake.
gg
Posted by Bobby on June 20, 2006, at 20:26:55
In reply to violence towards children » Bobby, posted by zazenduck on June 20, 2006, at 17:37:48
Do you think I made that up? I didn't---her name was Mrs. Sinclair. would it be better if I posted how we(children) abused her? Something had to set her off. sorry if the subject triggered you or brought up issues you may have. I think that Auntie Mel and I grew up in a different era than you and perhaps today's kids look at things in a different light. To me, those were some the most memorable times I had and, coming from a totally different angle, were humorous to a kid my age.
Posted by AuntieMel on June 21, 2006, at 9:43:02
In reply to Re: violence towards children » zazenduck, posted by Bobby on June 20, 2006, at 20:26:55
For saying what I, under a DNP, couldn't.
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 21, 2006, at 15:15:51
In reply to Re: violence towards children » gardenergirl, posted by zazenduck on June 20, 2006, at 18:04:40
> I think Psychobabble should not tolerate making light of child abuse. How do you stand on that issue?
I agree, child abuse shouldn't be make light of. But I'm going to accept that post.
Bob
Posted by Declan on June 21, 2006, at 20:25:39
In reply to Re: violence towards children, posted by Dr. Bob on June 21, 2006, at 15:15:51
I went to a boy's boarding school where some of the masters, as we called them, would routinely feel up the boys and then would leave under a cloud. This was no big deal, and sometimes the boys would manufacture evidence against some awful sadist and he would get the chop on a pretext of paedophilia. Noone worried too much about that (we had other things to worry about, and still do), just the awful embarrassment of it happening. We shouldn't be too precious about all this.......things aren't always so rosy in the garden.
Declan
Posted by Declan on June 21, 2006, at 20:32:50
In reply to violence towards children » Bobby, posted by zazenduck on June 20, 2006, at 17:37:48
The worst thing was always the kind of thing that is hardest to encode as a rule. Noone worried about being caned. It was a badge of honour, unpleasant of course. What *was* a problem was what can be a problem anywhere........insensitivity, psychological cruelty, things you more or less can't easily see or describe, as can happen here. All we can do is try to be nice, I spose.
Declan
Posted by Tamar on June 22, 2006, at 12:13:46
In reply to Re: violence towards children, posted by Declan on June 21, 2006, at 20:25:39
> We shouldn't be too precious about all this.......
I'm not sure that the problems I have as a result of being felt up and beaten as a child are because I'm being precious about it. I think it's because those experiences traumatised me. Maybe your experiences didn't traumatise you, in which case I can only be pleased for you.
Posted by Declan on June 22, 2006, at 20:31:22
In reply to Cue for an I-statement? » Declan, posted by Tamar on June 22, 2006, at 12:13:46
No Tamar, perhaps I haven't made myself clear. My schooling *did* traumatise me, but the worst things were hardest to see, in particular the psychological demolition jobs. Unhappy 11 yo kids in boarding schools have plenty of opportunities to show how devious and generally unworthy of continued understanding they can seem to be. I was thinking of the chalk throwing thing and being caned, which, as I said, was no big deal compared to the other stuff. Neither was paedophilia of the gentler variety. That might give you some idea of how bad it was. But others suffered worse, I know.
Declan
Posted by Declan on June 22, 2006, at 20:36:27
In reply to Re: Cue for an I-statement? » Tamar, posted by Declan on June 22, 2006, at 20:31:22
Just to clarify that, I mean the *threat* of paedophilia of the gentler variety. Some kids went way younger than 11 too.
Declan
Posted by Dinah on June 22, 2006, at 21:33:10
In reply to Clarification » Declan, posted by Declan on June 22, 2006, at 20:36:27
I'm sorry, Declan.
You know, I've heard all my life that girls are way meaner than boys in middle school. And that boys just have it out and it's over. But as my son is getting older, I'm realizing that these stereotypes, like most stereotypes, just aren't true. Boys and girls aren't so different when it comes to middle school.
Isn't it wonderful that humans seem to age well?
I was glad that Tamar shared her thoughts on the topic, as my thinking was sort of like Mel's and Bobby's. That just *was* when we were growing up. My parents less so than most of my friends, yet my therapist calls what my mother did child abuse. I just called it normal for the era. But Tamar helped me see it a bit differently so that maybe now I can see it with two sets of eyes, if that makes sense?
Admittedly times have changed, and the children of those moms have a different ethic when it comes to discplining kids. Just as my mother was way less physical with me than her parents were with her.
Posted by zazenduck on June 23, 2006, at 10:54:47
In reply to Re: violence towards children, posted by Declan on June 21, 2006, at 20:32:50
> What *was* a problem was what can be a problem anywhere........insensitivity, psychological cruelty, things you more or less can't easily see or describe, as can happen here.
exactly and civil all the while and (((((()))))but what do I know
i still think hitting kids in the heads with books is violence
and that saying the perp should be on a baseball team is making light of it
so there.........................
i guess i am precious darlin i guess i am
not bob thoughPS I have no wish for any moderators to be blocked. I wish to understand Bob's reasoning.
Posted by Declan on June 23, 2006, at 14:56:20
In reply to Re: violence towards children » Declan, posted by zazenduck on June 23, 2006, at 10:54:47
Dear zazenduck, these admin threads are so very long, and my back isn't brilliant.
What's a nice duck like you doing on Admin anyway?
I just come here because everyone else does.
I need to do my back exercises, but instead go into a PB/computer trance and stay here much too long.
Declan
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