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Posted by gabbii on July 18, 2005, at 13:49:34
There was a boy in my class, in grade 6 he had a lot going for him, and was really smart. He had some psychiatric troubles though, and some of the kids knew if they poked at him enough they could get him to act out so much so that an entire class would be overtaken by what he did.
It was an especially popular *sport* during French class or when we had a substitute teacher.
I found it heartbreaking to watch him struggle to maintain his composure and finally lose control.
I think about Jeff still, and wonder how he is.
Posted by crushedout on July 18, 2005, at 13:53:10
In reply to Memories, posted by gabbii on July 18, 2005, at 13:49:34
gabbi, you are an excellent person. a better person than i am, that's for sure.i take your point to heart.
Posted by Jen Star on July 18, 2005, at 14:04:08
In reply to Memories, posted by gabbii on July 18, 2005, at 13:49:34
Gabbii,
I don't think the situation you describe is applicable to this board, though it is heartbreaking. (It's always sad to see kids being hurt.)I know what you're getting at, but I disagree. I think that everyone here is in 100% full control of their faculties, and makes choices themselves on what they will/won't say, and will/won't do.
thanks for listening!
JenStar
Posted by so on July 18, 2005, at 14:07:33
In reply to Memories, posted by gabbii on July 18, 2005, at 13:49:34
except I am not acting out of psycholgical malais. I am executing a well-prepared plan to escalate my response on an occassion when an obviously unqualified and malicious medical licensee has demonstrated callous disregard for reason. It is not a result of sickness that I am exposing the role of psyhciatrists in mass suicide-murders. The activities Hsiung is promoting on this site, whether he knows it and i readly to admit it to himself or not, serve to thwart the development of true thereapuetic environments in favor of those that will further degrade the mental health of the community.
One doesn't reach these conclusions out of delusion. One reaches these conclusions only after years of experience as an investigator and as an active combatant in psychological warfare. I appreciate your concern, Gabbi, but I am well aware of my actions, my motives and my intentions. It is not an illness. It is a proper way to confront an escalating world-wide mental health crisis.
You might not recognize me when you see me elsewhere, but you'll recognize the resistance when you see it. We won't be wearing uniforms, or marching under the name of any organization, and we will be tenacious and aggressive in our confrontation of those who are promoting mental disease and suicidal homicide to consolidate the power of wealthy capitalists.
Posted by gabbii on July 18, 2005, at 14:18:00
In reply to Re: Memories » gabbii, posted by Jen Star on July 18, 2005, at 14:04:08
> Gabbii,
> I don't think the situation you describe is applicable to this board, though it is heartbreaking. (It's always sad to see kids being hurt.)
>
> I know what you're getting at, but I disagree.I'm not sure you do.
I was relating a story, that reminded me of so many others. What you take from it is up to you.
If I was going to get at something specific, I would be specific, as is my usual method of action.
Posted by gabbii on July 18, 2005, at 14:22:37
In reply to Re: Memories » gabbii, posted by so on July 18, 2005, at 14:07:33
> except I am not acting out of psycholgical malais. I am executing a well-prepared plan to escalate my response on an occassion when an obviously unqualified and malicious medical licensee has demonstrated callous disregard for reason. It is not a result of sickness that I am exposing the role of psyhciatrists in mass suicide-murders. The activities Hsiung is promoting on this site, whether he knows it and i readly to admit it to himself or not, serve to thwart the development of true thereapuetic environments in favor of those that will further degrade the mental health of the community.
>
> One doesn't reach these conclusions out of delusion. One reaches these conclusions only after years of experience as an investigator and as an active combatant in psychological warfare. I appreciate your concern, Gabbi, but I am well aware of my actions, my motives and my intentions. It is not an illness. It is a proper way to confront an escalating world-wide mental health crisis.
>
> You might not recognize me when you see me elsewhere, but you'll recognize the resistance when you see it. We won't be wearing uniforms, or marching under the name of any organization, and we will be tenacious and aggressive in our confrontation of those who are promoting mental disease and suicidal homicide to consolidate the power of wealthy capitalists.
I appreciate that So, and did not mean in any way to be condescending toward you.
You know I have valued so much of what you've had to say.
What I see, is what I see, though I'll try to keep my eyes and thoughts open.
Posted by gabbii on July 18, 2005, at 14:25:25
In reply to Re: Memories » gabbii, posted by Jen Star on July 18, 2005, at 14:04:08
I think that everyone here is in 100% full control of their faculties, and makes choices themselves on what they will/won't say, and will/won't do.
>
I'm not 100& in full control of my faculties!
And they certainly can be influenced by the atmosphere here. I'm simply watching what *I* see as patterns. It's not about agreement or disagreement.
Posted by so on July 18, 2005, at 14:43:43
In reply to Re: Memories » so, posted by gabbii on July 18, 2005, at 14:22:37
>
> I appreciate that So, and did not mean in any way to be condescending toward you.
> You know I have valued so much of what you've had to say.
> What I see, is what I see, though I'll try to keep my eyes and thoughts open.
I understand that, GG. If you'd been around a few soldiers, you might recognize emotional intensity as something other than a meltdown. I believe much mental illness resides in emotional repression, and as a result we tend to see symbolic action as illness. But civil disobedience is a well-developed form of warfare, and expresses in a variety of forms, ranging from complete passive resistance to active sabotage. My actions here are somewhere between that. I'm just ridiciuling the civility guidelines because they are such a farsical mask for a doctor whose abuse is exceeding his benefit and because I see such sustained illness and abuse among people working with his blessing.You've been consistently sweet and supportive of me, but always maintained your own person with no need to find power by being on my side, and i appreciate that.
We are involved in a massive and lengthy World War, and neither of the players now on the field can be allowed to win. The issues go far beyond this forum, titled so as to abuse the integrity of members. I didn't start thinking these things when I realized Chrusher has sprung a trap Hsiung-the-pusher provides his minions. I simply avoided exposing parts of my understanding while I was working on other matters -- matters in which Hsiung will likely reveal his unrepentant bigotry, as if he has not already by ignoring my contribution, now for several days and previously for two weeks before he admitted the obvious. What you see today is nothing but another insignificant firefight at an arbitrary checkpoint.
It's going to be a long row to hoe and we are going to need to learn to work with several forms of confrontation to prosecute a long World War for justice without contributing to the bloodshed. I've been training as a soldier for a long time, and am well prepared for this.Thanks, be well, and please do what you can to help assure neither capitalists nor thier deluded victims prevail in the current war - even if all you can do is hand out mental bandages to the wounded. If you want to support me further, educate yourself, read views you don't agree with, and fight other people's battles.
Posted by gabbii on July 18, 2005, at 14:49:05
In reply to Re: Memories » gabbii, posted by crushedout on July 18, 2005, at 13:53:10
>
> gabbi, you are an excellent person. a better person than i am, that's for sure.
>
> i take your point to heart.No, You know that's not true, I know that's not true. It's the funny thing about life experiences and the dynamics between people, they enable you to just naturally relate better, or feel more appreciation/empathy toward some better than others, and it's not to do with being a better person, or trying to be compassionate. You both have people who's behaviour you can accept better than I can.
I'm sorry if I came across as preachy. It wasn't my intent.
Posted by gabbii on July 18, 2005, at 15:58:12
In reply to Re: Memories » gabbii, posted by so on July 18, 2005, at 14:43:43
> >
> > I appreciate that So, and did not mean in any way to be condescending toward you.
> > You know I have valued so much of what you've had to say.
> > What I see, is what I see, though I'll try to keep my eyes and thoughts open.
>
>
> I understand that, GG. If you'd been around a few soldiers, you might recognize emotional intensity as something other than a meltdown. I believe much mental illness resides in emotional repression, and as a result we tend to see symbolic action as illness. But civil disobedience is a well-developed form of warfare, and expresses in a variety of forms, ranging from complete passive resistance to active sabotage. My actions here are somewhere between that. I'm just ridiciuling the civility guidelines because they are such a farsical mask for a doctor whose abuse is exceeding his benefit and because I see such sustained illness and abuse among people working with his blessing.
>
> You've been consistently sweet and supportive of me, but always maintained your own person with no need to find power by being on my side, and i appreciate that.
>
> We are involved in a massive and lengthy World War, and neither of the players now on the field can be allowed to win. The issues go far beyond this forum, titled so as to abuse the integrity of members. I didn't start thinking these things when I realized Chrusher has sprung a trap Hsiung-the-pusher provides his minions. I simply avoided exposing parts of my understanding while I was working on other matters -- matters in which Hsiung will likely reveal his unrepentant bigotry, as if he has not already by ignoring my contribution, now for several days and previously for two weeks before he admitted the obvious. What you see today is nothing but another insignificant firefight at an arbitrary checkpoint.
>
>
> It's going to be a long row to hoe and we are going to need to learn to work with several forms of confrontation to prosecute a long World War for justice without contributing to the bloodshed. I've been training as a soldier for a long time, and am well prepared for this.
>
> Thanks, be well, and please do what you can to help assure neither capitalists nor thier deluded victims prevail in the current war - even if all you can do is hand out mental bandages to the wounded. If you want to support me further, educate yourself, read views you don't agree with, and fight other people's battles.You're so welcome, and thank you too.
And if you ever feel the urge, flick on your babblemail for a split second and send me a message. I won't post my e-mail on the board.>
Posted by so on July 18, 2005, at 16:14:23
In reply to Re: Memories » so, posted by gabbii on July 18, 2005, at 15:58:12
ok try it
Posted by gabbii on July 18, 2005, at 16:22:10
In reply to Re: Memories » gabbii, posted by so on July 18, 2005, at 16:14:23
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