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Posted by Lou Pilder on February 21, 2005, at 11:58:07
Dr. Hsiung,
I am requesting that you write what your rational is to write that the following post by dancingstar is considered by you to be unacceptable in relation to the guidlines of the forum. Dancingstar wrote,[...Personally, I do not believe that it is a "problem" with "symptoms" or a "diagnosis"...].
Below are some past posts that write that [...I do not believe ...] in the post and I was wondering if you could write what the difference is between the unacceptable post by dancingstar and the others and as to the FAQ writing that[...different points of view ...are encouraged...] and to how dancingstar's post could be not respecting others point of view and the others are?
Lou Pilder
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20020715/msgs/611.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20050207/msgs/454316.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20050113/msgs/441522.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/200000401/msgs/29172.html
Posted by Lou Pilder on February 21, 2005, at 13:13:00
In reply to Lou's request to Dr. Hsiung-danstr, posted by Lou Pilder on February 21, 2005, at 11:58:07
Dr. Hsiung,
There is a post in the thread where dancingstar wrote what you wrote to be unacceptable here in relation to the guidlines of the forum.
Another poster in the thread wrote,[...there is a bigger picture here and I am glad you see it...].
And does not dancingstar see a picture also? Could you clarify why you wrote that it is unacceptable for dancingstar to write ,[...I do not believe that it is a "problem" with 'symptoms" or a "diagnosis'...] when one could have the potential to think that dancingstar is only writing about the {bigger picture} that she/he sees and why in a discussion on a mental-health board could not allow one to write what they see as the bigger picture and where the {...being sensitive...} that you wrote to dancingstar could not be applied to the others in the discussion that saw a different picture?
Lou Pilder
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/babble/20050217/msgs/460681.html
Posted by Dr. Bob on February 22, 2005, at 1:19:50
In reply to Lou's request to Dr. Hsiung-danstr, posted by Lou Pilder on February 21, 2005, at 11:58:07
> I am requesting that you write what your rational is to write that the following post by dancingstar is considered by you to be unacceptable in relation to the guidlines of the forum. Dancingstar wrote
> > Personally, I do not believe that it is a "problem," with "symptoms" or "a diagnosis."
I was afraid that people who do believe that it is a problem might feel it was being dismissed...
Bob
Posted by Lou Pilder on February 22, 2005, at 7:24:32
In reply to Re: Lou's request, posted by Dr. Bob on February 22, 2005, at 1:19:50
> > I am requesting that you write what your rational is to write that the following post by dancingstar is considered by you to be unacceptable in relation to the guidlines of the forum. Dancingstar wrote
>
> > > Personally, I do not believe that it is a "problem," with "symptoms" or "a diagnosis."
>
> I was afraid that people who do believe that it is a problem might feel it was being dismissed...
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> BobDR. Hsiung,
In your reply to me above, you wrote about dancingstar's post,[...I was afraid that people that do believe that it is a problem might feel that it is being dismissed...]
Let us look at a previous post here. In this post , the poster writes,
[...I don't belive that pills are the answer to my problem...].
In dancingstr's post, she prefaces the statement in question with {...{Personally}, {I} do not belive that it is a "problem" (quotation marks around the word problem are hers}.
The gramatical structure in both could be that they both are stateing their own point of view for {them}, not others. Gramatically, for the statements to say that others {should} not think that it is a problem universally, I can not conclude from the structure because words to indicate {others} I do not see in the statements, nor do I see imparitives in either of the statements. When dancingstar prefaced her statement with {personally}, I think that means it is personal to her, not others and that is her point of view. Granted, someone could think that since dancingstar has that point of view for {her}, then they could put her point of view in consideration here. But are not different points of view encouraged here because this is a forum for discussion of different points of view? Are you saying that because someone here has a diffeent point of view from another that they can not post it because you write,[...Im afriad that people that do think it is a problem mmight feel that it is being dismissed...]. Well, in the past post, the poster writes ,[...I don't believe that pills are the answer to my problem...]. Are you saying that that poster's point of view does not give you a fear that others might think that they should not take pills for their problems and that their use of pills is being dismissed? Could you write why what that poster wrote is acceptable here and why then that statement in that statement is different from dancingstar's statement?
Lou Pilder
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20050202/msgs/451767.html
Posted by Lou Pilder on February 23, 2005, at 8:30:45
In reply to Re: Lou's request, posted by Dr. Bob on February 22, 2005, at 1:19:50
> > I am requesting that you write what your rational is to write that the following post by dancingstar is considered by you to be unacceptable in relation to the guidlines of the forum. Dancingstar wrote
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> > > Personally, I do not believe that it is a "problem," with "symptoms" or "a diagnosis."
>
> I was afraid that people who do believe that it is a problem might feel it was being dismissed...
>
> BobDr. Hsiung,
In the following post here, one writes,[...My husband started Effexorr ...killed himself in our garage...just a warning...his case is not unique...].
In dancingstar's post, she wrote that [...{personally}, {I},...].
I think that there is the potential for people to come to this site to seek here from others their experiances about psychotropic and neuroleptic type drugs and use them to make a more informative decision councerning as to take a drug or not, for the site is for support and education.
You write that your rational for deeming dancingstar's statement and her eviction from the community was that you are [..afriad that people that belive it is a problem might feel that it is being dismissed...] Could you clarify what are you referring to that they [...might {dismiss}?..]
If it is that they might dismiss taking Effexor, could that not be another point of view to use in order to make an informed decision as to whether to take this drug or not? Could you clarify why is dancingstar's point of view being written by you to be something that she is to be evicted from the community for if the site is for support and education? Can she not write her experiance as the person here does and the others in the thread?
Lou Pilder
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20050222/msgs/462135.html
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 1, 2005, at 13:04:25
In reply to Re: Lou's request, posted by Dr. Bob on February 22, 2005, at 1:19:50
Dr. Hsiung,
You wrote about your rational for expelling dancingstar,[...I was afraid...people might think...dismissed...].
Your FAQ has a separate section that tells how people here can use what others write here to determine if what is written is what they should trust. Then there is another section as to [...which drug...?]
Have you not written that you are not responsible for what others write here, only what you write?
In considering your reply to me above and the written FAQ here, I am requesting that you reinstate dancingstar.
Lou Pilder
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