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Posted by jay on November 17, 2003, at 19:11:20
I really think he(I believe) just intended to poke some fun the same way the rest of us did. Just because he happened to joke about "death"..like..geezz..hasn't Bob ever seen a Woody Allen movie??..heh. C'mon Doc Bob..please put it in context. Like, we are *all* going to die...it's not like some secret bad thing we can't talk about!
Jay
Posted by slinky on November 17, 2003, at 19:59:59
In reply to I feel bad for Destroyo's block...:(, posted by jay on November 17, 2003, at 19:11:20
I find it a wee bit difficult to read destroyo's posts at the moment..they're too clever
But..
I always joke about death same as i joke about myself (maybe doesn't show here--but in the past i think i did-when i was a hyper-bunny)
So i agree.
Posted by octopusprime on November 17, 2003, at 21:48:36
In reply to I feel bad for Destroyo's block...:(, posted by jay on November 17, 2003, at 19:11:20
Posted by kid47 on November 18, 2003, at 10:20:06
In reply to I feel bad for Destroyo's block...:(, posted by jay on November 17, 2003, at 19:11:20
or until lunch. Which ever comes first. =0/
kid
Posted by Wildflower on November 18, 2003, at 10:36:06
In reply to I feel bad for Destroyo's block...:(, posted by jay on November 17, 2003, at 19:11:20
I usually stay away from the admin. board but I just had to comment on this. I found Destroyo's comments quite amusing and non-threatening. With all of the doom and gloom around here, his comments were a (much welcomed) breath of fresh air.
Posted by madwand on November 18, 2003, at 14:34:38
In reply to I feel bad for Destroyo's block...:(, posted by jay on November 17, 2003, at 19:11:20
I concur with the evolving sentiment. Whatever happened to the "major" vs. "minor" offenses notion?
I followed a pointer in the discussion about that some weeks ago to "check the FAQ", but it did not seem to be documented there.
Also, somehow I had always interpreted the line about "don't joke about death or suicide" to mean "don't jokingly suggest you are going to die, or that someone else has died, or that you or someone has or will commit suicide".
Might I humbly suggest that joking about death can be a good thing, as it gives us a sense of distance from it ("pulls its fangs") so to speak.
Of course, joking about it in the way I first interpreted that clause (see above), I can see as being probably hurtful and should indeed be disallowed.MJP
Posted by tabitha on November 18, 2003, at 14:42:53
In reply to Re: I feel bad for Destroyo's block...:( » jay, posted by madwand on November 18, 2003, at 14:34:38
that's World Toilet Day-- this Wednesday. Mark your calendars.
Posted by shar on November 19, 2003, at 18:46:09
In reply to Hunger Strike till Destroyo's back, posted by kid47 on November 18, 2003, at 10:20:06
At 47 (or more), I figure ....... lunch.
I could easily drop a good 15 (or more) pounds, and it would only result in the delight of the cohorts who can actually lay eyes on me.........
xoxo
Shar
Posted by kid47 on November 20, 2003, at 9:54:13
In reply to Re: Hunger Strike till Destroyo's back » kid47, posted by shar on November 19, 2003, at 18:46:09
Actually I'm 50+ now. Gosh has it been almost 4 yrs. since I first came to Babble Land !! Hope your OK!!
PS Please lets keep it administrative here......Dr. K ;0)
Posted by madwand on November 20, 2003, at 10:08:00
In reply to Re: Hunger Strike till Destroyo's back » kid47, posted by shar on November 19, 2003, at 18:46:09
While I am sympathetic to Destroyo's plight, we are talking about *food* here.
How about if I don't have seconds -- does that count?Michael
Posted by kid47 on November 20, 2003, at 11:20:19
In reply to Re: Hunger Strike till Destroyo's back » shar, posted by madwand on November 20, 2003, at 10:08:00
<<How about if I don't have seconds -- does that count?>>
I think that would be considered a more than adequate sacrifice. =0)
Posted by pixygoth on November 21, 2003, at 10:10:07
In reply to Re: Hunger Strike till Destroyo's back » madwand, posted by kid47 on November 20, 2003, at 11:20:19
Maybe a place here where dark humour *is* acceptable, maybe with offensiveness rules in certain areas a little bit relaxed... would be a nice idea?
Sometimes the only things I *can* laugh at are dark, slightly icky ones.
And I'm missing Destroyo already...
came to check posts for the last few days and he's gone 8-(
S
Posted by Dr. Bob on November 21, 2003, at 17:11:05
In reply to Re: humour in the face of badness, posted by pixygoth on November 21, 2003, at 10:10:07
> Maybe a place here where dark humour *is* acceptable, maybe with offensiveness rules in certain areas a little bit relaxed... would be a nice idea?
Aren't there already such places elsewhere? Would it need to be here?
Bob
Posted by shar on November 21, 2003, at 22:29:06
In reply to Re: humour in the face of badness, posted by Dr. Bob on November 21, 2003, at 17:11:05
Bob,
Sometimes I wonder, when I encounter Pollyanna-types in their various upbeat, bubbly, aspects-is there a better place for dark humor than this forum?
It's a rhetorical question. I figure they just sucked my mother dry of any serotonin. [dark humor]
Shar
P.S. I don't know if it NEEDS to be here, but I do think it would be most understood and appreciated here.
> > Maybe a place here where dark humour *is* acceptable, maybe with offensiveness rules in certain areas a little bit relaxed... would be a nice idea?
>
> Aren't there already such places elsewhere? Would it need to be here?
>
> Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on November 22, 2003, at 18:30:23
In reply to Re: humour in the face of badness » Dr. Bob, posted by shar on November 21, 2003, at 22:29:06
> I don't know if it NEEDS to be here, but I do think it would be most understood and appreciated here.
Maybe by some, but might it not be misunderstood (an unappreciated) by others?
Bob
Posted by madwand on November 23, 2003, at 3:27:25
In reply to Re: humour in the face of badness, posted by Dr. Bob on November 22, 2003, at 18:30:23
> > I don't know if it NEEDS to be here, but I do think it would be most understood and appreciated here.
>
> Maybe by some, but might it not be misunderstood (an unappreciated) by others?
>
> BobWell, but then wouldn't those folks just avoid that section of the board (like some folks avoid Admin and some folks avoid Social)?
Think of it like a Jungian Shadow exercise. Rather than trying to "banish" the Shadow, and thus have it erupt unexpectedly (and with varying amounts of damage), give it a designated space.
And yes, there are many other message boards for "dark humor" (or where it does not contravene the rules). But since Babble has much-higher standards of civility than most boards it therefore has a stronger Shadow as well (thus such an outlet needs to be here, as an incorporated part of Babble).
And I don't mean that it should be some kind of no holds barred "out back" where people should go to resolve their differences in a non-civil manner
(that is what email is for <g>). But by allowing the darker impulses to flourish in a relatively non-dangerous manner (dark humor), the overall civility of the board should *increase*.Michael
Posted by Dr. Bob on November 23, 2003, at 17:06:10
In reply to Re: humour in the face of badness » Dr. Bob, posted by madwand on November 23, 2003, at 3:27:25
> > > I don't know if it NEEDS to be here, but I do think it would be most understood and appreciated here.
> >
> > Maybe by some, but might it not be misunderstood (an unappreciated) by others?
>
> Well, but then wouldn't those folks just avoid that section of the board (like some folks avoid Admin and some folks avoid Social)?
> Think of it like a Jungian Shadow exercise. Rather than trying to "banish" the Shadow, and thus have it erupt unexpectedly (and with varying amounts of damage), give it a designated space.
>
> by allowing the darker impulses to flourish in a relatively non-dangerous manner (dark humor), the overall civility of the board should *increase*.Hmm, maybe we should try something like that? But how exactly to allow the darker impulses to flourish in a relatively non-dangerous manner?
Bob
Posted by Dinah on November 23, 2003, at 17:24:25
In reply to Re: humour in the face of badness, posted by Dr. Bob on November 23, 2003, at 17:06:10
Posted by tabitha on November 23, 2003, at 17:28:08
In reply to Re: humour in the face of badness, posted by Dr. Bob on November 23, 2003, at 17:06:10
Well how about these new boards..
- Jokes About Death Babble
- You-Statements and Accusations Babble
- Babble About the One True Church
- Sarcasm and Generalizations Babble
- Bashing World Leaders and Political Parties Babble
- Obscenity and Vulgarity Babble
- Suicide Hoax Babble
- Miscellaneous Incivility BabbleSeems like that would cover it. No more blocks!
Posted by madwand on November 23, 2003, at 17:48:56
In reply to Re: humour in the face of badness, posted by Dr. Bob on November 23, 2003, at 17:06:10
> Hmm, maybe we should try something like that? But how exactly to allow the darker impulses to flourish in a relatively non-dangerous manner?
>
> BobWell as they say in 12 Steps I am sure it will be "progress, not perfection". Definitely a separate board, such as "Shadow-Babble" or "Darkside-Babble". Perhaps even an "extra step" needed to register for it, so they those wandering in off the net don't hit it by mistake (not sure how possible that is with the software).
How the rules should work there is a bit challenging. Direct personal attacks probably should not be allowed. Perhaps there could be a "burn in period" where any PBCs (or their equivalent on that board) that arise out of the new board are "warnings only" and don't count toward a block. This would give the "balance" of the new board time to develop.
Just thinking out loud at the moment. Hopefully we can all "evolve" this into something viable.Michael
Posted by Dr. Bob on November 25, 2003, at 0:55:05
In reply to Re: humour in the face of badness, posted by madwand on November 23, 2003, at 17:48:56
> Well as they say in 12 Steps I am sure it will be "progress, not perfection".
Don't worry, I'd settle for progress! :-)
> Definitely a separate board
Yes, I agree...
> How the rules should work there is a bit challenging. Direct personal attacks probably should not be allowed.
That would be one way to approach it, which types of currently-disallowed posts would become allowed and which would remain disallowed?
Bob
Posted by Dinah on November 25, 2003, at 7:30:30
In reply to Re: humour in the face of badness, posted by Dr. Bob on November 25, 2003, at 0:55:05
Posted by Dinah on November 25, 2003, at 7:31:03
In reply to Re: humour in the face of badness, posted by Dr. Bob on November 25, 2003, at 0:55:05
Posted by shar on November 25, 2003, at 14:00:30
In reply to Re: humour in the face of badness » Dr. Bob, posted by madwand on November 23, 2003, at 3:27:25
......I really like your analysis, the Shadow side, etc. What caught my attention, tho, was the "out back" phrase. And, I thought, wow, maybe we could have a smoking board, too--since, usually these days, that's where us pariahs (I mean, smokers) end up--out back.
......Or, maybe we could have a Psycho Babble Barn board, where we could go smoke in the barn like in olden days (hopeful that we don't burn it down). Those could work for Moonshine, too.
.....just a little humor (yes, I know, very little...)
Shar
> And I don't mean that it should be some kind of no holds barred "out back" where people should go to resolve their differences in a non-civil manner
> (that is what email is for <g>). But by allowing the darker impulses to flourish in a relatively non-dangerous manner (dark humor), the overall civility of the board should *increase*.
>
> Michael
>
>
Posted by Dr. Bob on November 26, 2003, at 0:37:58
In reply to Re: Separate registration? (nm) » Dr. Bob, posted by Dinah on November 25, 2003, at 7:30:30
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