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Posted by Cam W. on December 26, 2001, at 18:49:25
> > > Actually, it is the Truehope people (or someone related to them) that log in here as posters, touting this wonderful new product for mental disorders.
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> > I am not associated with True Hope at all. Again, you make statements with nothing to back them up. Please stop your slander.
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> It's fine to have different points of view, but please don't post anything that others could take as accusatory:
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> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
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> Thanks, and happy holidays,
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> Bob
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> PS: Follow-ups regarding civility should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration; otherwise, they may be deleted.Bob - May I reply to the post of Annie's where she says that my claims are unscientific, and that I am "spewing unfounded propaganda"? See:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20011213/msgs/87377.html
This post was in reply to my following post:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20011213/msgs/87081.html
I guarantee that my reply will conform to the highest levels of civility, as demanded by this site. Also, the content my response will be consistent with that demanded of the majority of prominent psychiatry journals, when responding to articles published therein. (I would draft a response to J Clin Psychiatry, but I feel that those with more letters behind their name will be more than adequately responding to the article ;^)
Also, I do apologize to Annie, I did not realize that she had brought up the Truehope issue. I had thought that it was started by the same people who had done so in the past. I am just too lazy to peruse threads to the extent that I use to < sigh >.
- Cam
Posted by stjames on December 27, 2001, at 1:38:51
In reply to Re: please be civil » Dr. Bob, posted by Cam W. on December 26, 2001, at 18:49:25
"spewing unfounded propaganda"?
Well that is not to nice, considering the source is medical fact.
I find it intresting that Annie has been silent after she made the false claim that True Hope's price was not excessive and I provided a comparison from the archives. Anyone who spent a little time at the health food store would realize True Hope's price was excessive.
My real question is, why, Dr Bob, do you allow these disussions of True Hope to continue ? Is it not enought that their studies did not really happen, schools they say they are associated with
have not heard about them, the excessive cost for common vitamins, and that they suggest stopping meds ? (ect) How much more does a medical doctor need to call a scam a scam ?One gets tired having to refute this issue again and again. We do discuss nutrition here, there is nothing wrong with that. There is something wrong with paying 3X as much for basic nutrients and unfounded claims.
james
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 27, 2001, at 5:58:31
In reply to Re: please be civil, posted by stjames on December 27, 2001, at 1:38:51
> May I reply to the post of Annie's where she says that my claims are unscientific, and that I am "spewing unfounded propaganda"? See:
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> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20011213/msgs/87377.htmlOops, sorry, I missed that! Still, you know the preferred types of responses to comments like that, right? :-)
> I guarantee that my reply will conform to the highest levels of civility...
If it's civil, it's up to you, but maybe it would be better just to let it go? Or just to post a link (see below)?
> My real question is, why, Dr Bob, do you allow these disussions of True Hope to continue ? ... How much more does a medical doctor need to call a scam a scam ?I understand what you're saying, and it applies to discussion of illegal drugs as well as of "scams", but I see my role more as maintaining an open forum than as deciding what can and can't be talked about (though there are exceptions).
> One gets tired having to refute this issue again and again.
But wouldn't it be easy just to post a link to a previous refutation?
Bob
Posted by Shar on December 28, 2001, at 1:09:17
In reply to Re: refuting an issue again and again, posted by Dr. Bob on December 27, 2001, at 5:58:31
> > One gets tired having to refute this issue again and again.
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> But wouldn't it be easy just to post a link to a previous refutation?
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> BobIt would be just as easy, I believe, to post a link, but, unless people are doing a lit review or something how likely are they to go to the link?
I rarely go to links because my computer is very, very slow and I prefer to read the more current posts. I may well be in the minority on going vs. not going to links.
James...About refuting again and again.....at this time, it seems the only option. Maybe you could copy and paste from a previous post and save time that way. I appreciate you doing the refuting, hassle though it probably is.
Shar
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 28, 2001, at 7:13:11
In reply to Re: refuting an issue again and again, posted by Shar on December 28, 2001, at 1:09:17
> I rarely go to links because my computer is very, very slow and I prefer to read the more current posts.
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> Maybe you could copy and paste from a previous post and save time that way.Just to be clear, the kind of link I had in mind was one to a previous post. Which would save even a little more time. But I suppose there would be people who wouldn't click on the link, but who would read it if it were copied-and-pasted...
Bob
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