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Posted by LostBoyinNC45 on July 11, 2014, at 23:31:35
What do you think about the idea? Eating a high protein diet, say 120 grams of "high biological value" lean protein, cutting out simple sugars almost entirely, the remaining calories coming from low glycemic carbs and healthy fats.
Eating a high protein/low sugar diet like this shuts down excess insulin release and leptin and suppresses appetite.
Anybody know the developing science surrounding a diet like this, as it relates to mood and anxiety? Im not talking about an extremist diet like the Atkins diet or even the zone diet. Just a healthy diet that is high in protein, eliminate simple sugars except for some fruit daily.
At the minimum, this sort of diet would probably help control or reduce psychiatry drug induced obesity, and psychiatry drug induced metabolic syndrom X.
Eric AKA "LostBoyinNC"
Posted by Phillipa on July 12, 2014, at 10:07:57
In reply to Shutting down insulin/leptin improves mood?, posted by LostBoyinNC45 on July 11, 2014, at 23:31:35
That to me is a healthy diabetic diet. But as to helping with weight with antipsychotics. Don't the meds themselves change metabolism. And it doesn't have that much to do with diet? Phillipa
Posted by LostBoyinNC45 on July 12, 2014, at 11:05:42
In reply to Re: Shutting down insulin/leptin improves mood? » LostBoyinNC45, posted by Phillipa on July 12, 2014, at 10:07:57
It is a healthy diet for about anyone, actually. It is "the in diet" for fitness nuts who are hardly diabetics. Its also the "in diet" for those who are fat and disgusting from years and years of sedentary lifestyle, lack of exercise and high dosages of psychiatry medications, booze abuse, smoking pot abuse and so on.
Since I was talking about mood, I was not asking about whether or not people think this sort of diet can address atypical anti-psychotic induced type II diabetes, obesity and high cholesterol. In all honesty, the atypical anti-psychotic/metabolic syndrome cause and effect thing is another subject that I consider more to be a legal issue than a health issue. It is clear that atypical anti-psychotics such as zyprexa and others destroy the pancreas. Eli Lilly paid out a HUGE settlement about a decade back to a bunch of states and if I remember correctly, to the federal government as well. Because so many people taking zyprexa were developing type II diabetes and the states and federal government were having to pay for treating type II diabetes now...as most schizophrenics and manic depressives are on medicaid or receive their care in outpatient, taxpayer funded clinics, or inside the prison system.
I am talking about whether or not this sort of diet can actually improve mood in those whose Axis 1 dx is a mood disorder, probably major depression or one of the variations.
> That to me is a healthy diabetic diet. But as to helping with weight with antipsychotics. Don't the meds themselves change metabolism. And it doesn't have that much to do with diet? Phillipa
Posted by jane d on July 15, 2014, at 5:04:00
In reply to Shutting down insulin/leptin improves mood?, posted by LostBoyinNC45 on July 11, 2014, at 23:31:35
I believe there may be a connection for me. However I'm trying to deal with it using something closer to Atkins than your diet - replacing carbohydrates with fat not protein. Both ways reduce insulin levels. This theory is also consistent with the finding that exercise helps some people also. Reduce insulin resistance by exercise and insulin levels will also go down.
Is it working for me? Who can tell with all the other variables in life? But I have other reasons to eat this way so I'm going to keep doing it. And I think it's likely enough to be worth trying for other people.
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