Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 980343

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Tricyclic + nardil = no hypertensive crisis?

Posted by Michael Bell on March 10, 2011, at 12:17:33

I've recently read a few studies that claim that Nortriptyline and/or Reboxetine have a protective action against tyramine-induced hypertensive crises. Has anyone ever combined these meds with Nardil, and did you have any hypertension while doing so?

 

Re: Tri + nardil = no hypertensive (Correction)

Posted by Michael Bell on March 10, 2011, at 12:20:30

In reply to Tricyclic + nardil = no hypertensive crisis?, posted by Michael Bell on March 10, 2011, at 12:17:33

I meant to say amitryptiline instead of nortryptiline.

 

Re: Tri + nardil = no hypertensive (Correction) » Michael Bell

Posted by Phillipa on March 10, 2011, at 13:28:39

In reply to Re: Tri + nardil = no hypertensive (Correction), posted by Michael Bell on March 10, 2011, at 12:20:30

Oh I hope the experts answer as that is a strong one for sure. Phillipa

 

Re: Tri + nardil = no hypertensive (Correction) » Michael Bell

Posted by tensor on March 12, 2011, at 0:13:10

In reply to Re: Tri + nardil = no hypertensive (Correction), posted by Michael Bell on March 10, 2011, at 12:20:30

> I meant to say amitryptiline instead of nortryptiline.

Sources?

 

Re: Tri + nardil = no hypertensive (Correction) » Michael Bell

Posted by jedi on March 21, 2011, at 0:59:33

In reply to Re: Tri + nardil = no hypertensive (Correction), posted by Michael Bell on March 10, 2011, at 12:20:30

> I meant to say amitryptiline instead of nortryptiline.

Hi,
I have used nortriptyline with Nardil and had no problem with the combination. Nortriptyline is the major metabolite of amitriptyline and works in a similar fashion to raise norepinephrine levels but has less side effects, in my opinion. I studied the combination extensively before taking them together. I started the tricyclic first and added the Nardil to it. I believe that is the safest way to combine the medications, alternatively they can be started simultaneously. I think the reason the two meds can be combined safely is that the nortriptyline has very little affect on serotonin. Tricyclics that have more of a serotonin affect would be much more dangerous to combine with a MAOI (serotonin syndrome). I have also read that the norepinephrine in the tricyclic can help eliminate the problem with tyramine containing foods. I didn't test that theory so don't know how true it is.
Jedi


http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20050811/msgs/540971.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=PMID%3A%207560546

 

Re: Tri + nardil = no hypertensive SOURCES

Posted by Michael Bell on March 22, 2011, at 19:24:04

In reply to Re: Tri + nardil = no hypertensive (Correction) » Michael Bell, posted by tensor on March 12, 2011, at 0:13:10

Amitryptiline helps prevent tyramine reaction:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6123888

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7174870

Reboxetine protects against tyramine pressor response:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7931221


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